People Who Dont Tip

yea I have a hard time tipping at bars. Does going to a fridge and grabbing me a beer really require an additional add on?

Fuck man, thats what wives are for. But they get a tip of a different type ;)
 
Unfortunately, tipping at bars has nothing to do with the quality of service or difficulty involved, but rather how quickly you can get them to serve you on the next round. If a bartender sees you as "the guy who tipped me 3 bucks last time," you will almost certainly get your next drink before the other people waiting near you.
 
I almost always tip about 20%. I even have a dumb little formula for tipping that I use every time I do. Situations that cause me not to... terrible service in an empty restaurant that I've been to several times, being laughed at by a 50 year old asian cafe OWNER about wanting the flavor of froyo she thinks is 'disgusting', getting a bad haircut because the person was being an idiot and not paying attention to me or what they were doing... Things like that. If someone isn't at least making an effort to be nice and doing their job the way they should, I'm not giving you a cent extra. I like to make a point, and I'm not afraid to do it this way.

If I'm at work (I work food service and I'm a massage student. Both are things that people should and do tip for) and someone doesn't tip, I usually look at myself and end up thinking I probably could have helped them out more, or been a little friendlier. It's only when I'm going above and beyond that I'm upset when someone doesn't tip. But I think a lot of you are OOOOOOOOVERRRRRREACTINGGGGGG.

I think it's ridiculous that people should have to depend on tips to make their wage. Working in Washington is a blessing, because we don't have to depend on tips to make minimum, so obviously I don't have experience working that way. Tips are a nice addition to my income. I appreciate them. BUT, here's a goddamn solution to all your arguing, changing the standard so that everyone makes enough money, and tipping is a nice gesture that you're thankful for, and you don't need to complain about it when you don't get it? Yeah yeah, impossible, and nobody is gonna make $15-$20 an hour as a waitress at fuckin Red Robin or where ever, but that's how I think it should be.

ARGUE WITH ME. ITS FUN.
 
well i hear where both of you are coming from, but i think it is honestly a higher stress job in the kitchen a lot of the times, and yet we make shit. I work at one of the nicer restaurants in town and I get $12 can an hour($2 higher than minimum wage) with no tips or overtime, while the servers are out in the dining room selling $2000 bottles of wine. It can start to feel quite unfair after a while.
 
Umm. I would not tip a massage student. I work at a gym desk, every Thursday and Tuesday students and athletes can sign up for free massages by students. the volunteer paiens are the ones that deserve praise. No one tips them the students That'd be retarded.

I'm a nursing student, we have to put on free clinics, and go to practicum for 100s of hours that include way worse tasks than massaging people. I don't get tipped and it'd never occur to me to earn one. I'm there because I want to be there, and any tip I receive is the experience each patient gives me that contributes to my education

No wonder you're getting called out as a spoiled brat. You're what's wrong with the current ideas around tipping. Too much of an expectancy put on receiving a tip. Do you even take pleasure in making someone's day better? Or do you just do it for the reward?
 
well if i was in it solely for the money i wouldnt be cooking, it is what i love to do, but all im saying is it can get pretty frustrating at times.
 
TIPPING SCALE - 0 to 25

0%: Literally multiple things went wrong and I walked out of the establishment in a bad mood as a result of the service / quality

5%: Takeout (I basically received no service but you did prepare food, so)

10%: Service was inattentive, took an excessive amount of time, basically if the service made my experience worse.

15%: Everything went smoothly, no complaints, no issues (basically, 90% of all trips to bars and restaurants)

20%: The service made the experience noticeably better to the point where I feel like the staff deserves something extra

25%: Almost never, basically have to make the experience really memorable.

That's how I look at it, personally.
 
Oh I feel your pain and understand the frustration... Everybody gets frustrated for sure but I think you may be looking right past much of the bullshit that servers actually deal with regularly, while considering fully all the hard things you know about in your job. It's totally natural since I'll admit it SEEMS easy... But lots of things make it difficult to do well in some cases.

Also if you fuck something up, your pay isn't affected but the server's most likely will, and they will also be getting a ton of shit from the customers.

I understand it's hot and crazy back there but the insulation from the bullshit that happens out front is pretty huge. There's just a ton of things that everybody in a restaurant deals with that nobody else really gets, y'know? Of course there are dumb bitch servers that just complain and suck at their job- but the same could be said for line cooks that can't get their tickets out on time or keep fucking up the temps, etc. nahmean?

There's good and bad in any job. At least you love what you do. Looking to make the jump to chef anytime soon?
 
I guess the bar thing is all based on context. I just graduated so I'm used to a college bar scene where only girls are served basically so you better have some with you. And its generally so packed they won't remember your face either way so tipping for every quickly made drink seems odd. But I have had a few experiences of just being in an older crowd bar and I can see the tip working there.
 
What? How the hell are only girls served. Maybe you're just failing to catch the bartenders eye
 
Did you actually read what I said? And also, no one called me a spoiled brat but you. Getting pink names confused, that's cute.
 
Oh I did get you mixed up. But I still think it's dumb you believe you should get tipped as a massage student. You don't sound spoiled, my bad. That other girl is a cry baby though.
 
Lolololol.

I also didn't mean I expected to get tipped as a student, just that I'm going into that kind of work and tipping is already something we have discussed a lot in classes. I have gotten tipped as a student, though. And it's just a nice bonus. The amount of money you can make doing bodywork is enough that you don't need tips to get by. I'll be charging upwards of $60 for a 1hr session when Im doing work under my own name. (Not right out of school but still) I wish other jobs could offer that so this argument didn't have to exist.
 
Okay fine, hyperbole, you caught me. But for example, if I get up to the bar and am up alongisde with everyone else and I don't have my girlfriend, I'll definitely be waiting 10-15 minutes, or even longer honestly as he serves people far behind in the queue. Have you been to bars in a college town? It's a lot different.
 
What the hell school did you go to? I find the bars where I live now MUCH worse than the bars when I was in school. At school, at least there were an adequate number of bartenders for the amount of people in the bar. Now I'll walk up and see 2-3 bartenders for a packed house running around to both sides of the bar and everyone's waiting forever.

I do agree that it is so much easier for girls to get a drink though. Sometimes I'll just give my fiancee money and have her go to the bar and order whatever she wants and a beer for me. She'll be back before I would have even made it through the sea of people up to the actual bar haha. Even more fun is when I send her up to go fishing for free drinks from large crowds of uber-bros. A bit of innocent flirting and I save 10 bucks.

...I am such a terrible person.
 
Yes I have. I find it easier to order in college towns. Everyone is so broke that if you make your cash visible to the bartender they come pretty quick to serve you.
 
tipping is fucking stupid. the best bar/restaurant service you will ever get is in europe where tipping is almost insulting.
 
As a waiter in the summer, tips are a huge bonus to the job.

As a Chalet Host in the winter, I live on tips, I literally get paid a pittance and without tips cannot do anything.

It does my fucking head in when people dont tip their chalet hosts. Bastards.

 
what people also have to realize is that restaurants pool tips, so if you think that a waitress makes enough as it is, its important to realize that you are screwing the bussers etc. out of money. it is so obnoxious not to tip especially at a high end restaurant where the wait staff is pressured to be incredibly knowledgeable about the menu/wine etc.
 
naw like $150,000 homes on 15 year loans. they easily make $100 a night in tips on top of a $9/hour base wage which is like $172 a day * 20 = $3440 a month...not too shabby IMO
 
No. Wait staff are pressured to do the job they were hired to do. A good waiter will know the menu/wine/etc regardless of what kind of restraint they work at.

If you go into a job that has tips and feel you are entitled to them, chances are you are going to be let down. If you think it's something extra for doing your job well, chances are you will be grateful for what you get. Unless you are in one of those places that lowers minimum wage to compensate for tips. That blows.
 
I'm sure. I was saying I think that should be their wage before tips, though. Tips should be a bonus, not this minimum wage plus tips shit.

Also, MNS... There's only one person who gets happy endings, and he's even in this thread. But none for anyone else lololol.
 
At a bar or busy club I HATE tipping. You have to wait forever to get a fucking drink and then if you just leave a buck they look at you funny. Or if you start a tab and spend 100 bucks on drinks that would cost them 10 they look at you funny if you don't put another 20 in there. I DESPISE THAT SHIT. In other countries you tip at restaurants but not at the pub. If I am sitting at a bar and the bar tender waits on me like someone serving me at a table would I tip generously but I fucking hate it when a place is packed and I just want to grab a quick bud light and rejoin my friends if I am not buying a round or wahtever.

I never fuck people on tips though. 20% or just under and somewhere between 15-20 is my standard. Very good food which costs me under 20 bucks a person and I get good service is ALWAYS rewarded with 25-35% (can't afford to tip like that at any place nice.) I almost never encounter shitty service where I am forced to leave something under 15% but still over 10% just out of principal but in those situations that is what I do.

I never fuck delivery drivers but if theres a delivery fee too I can't really always afford to give more than 2-3 bucks.

Bag guys at golf clubs are annoying for tips. I always tend to show up in the parking lot with just 20s or no cash and don't have a spare single and try and whisk my clubs away from them and get them onto a cart myself to avoid the tip. Weds night the place I was playing were being jerkoffs about not letting you take your cart to your car. I had to tip the guy when I arrived. Then thought I lost my phone so I had to have some fucker sit in the cart and escort me to my car to check that it was in there (it was.) After my round I tried to drive to my car without them seeing but sure enough the fucker chased me down and ws up in my shit before I had my golf shoes in the trunk. So he removes everything from the cart, puts my clubhead covers on etc etc shit I wanted to do myself. And because of this fucking guy my phone was still in the cart and I drove off without it. This policy was purely in place to bully you out of a couple bucks coming and going.
 
Wow, tipping is a heated debate in the US? So weird.

Here in Sweden (and most of Europe I think), tipping happens, but not all the time. Where I work, at a hotel/restaurant, I earn about $14/hour (minimum wage for an 18-19yo, like I am) . I do cleaning, breakfast, a bit of serving and a bit of bartending. That is both before, and after tips. You see, if someone leaves a tip, the entire staff share it. The tips usually vary in the 2-8% range. Most places have a tip-jar of some sort. In our case, we payed a part of our team-building trip with tips.

The reason why we all share it, is because we're all tipped. When you buy something, for example in a restaurant, you don't just pay for the food. You pay for everything. The location, the building, the interior, the electricity, the appliances in the kitchen, the service and the staff. And if someone leaves a tip, they tip on the whole thing, on the experience. I guess food in restaurants are generally more expensive here though. Our menu has 4 main courses, and they range from about $27 to about $45, and we are in no way a "high-end" type place.

 
I pretty much always tip at resturants, there has been one time i didnt tip anything, and one time i gave the bitch a penny, which i hoped was more insulting, but that was only because in those two cases the service was horrible, both people had a pissy attitude, etc.. ill tip about 15% if they just do their job pretty well, but if they do a really good job, are really helpful, good attitude, etc.. then ill be really generous and tip well over 20%

I feel like its wrong to tip someone who does a shit job, but also wrong to leave no, or a crap tip for someone who does a good job.
 
I eat at restaurants quite a bit. I tip, but according to service. Most of the time service falls into the "average" category, which will earn a 15% tip. Yes, earn. Sometimes, for example the other night, I will receive exceptional service. My server literally tripped over himself making sure I was completely taken care of all of the time. Beverage always full, etc. I gave him a very generous tip, but also verbally let him know that he was the best waiter I've had all year. I think the verbal tip is greatly appreciated as well.
There are a handful of times in my life I have left no tip. Earlier this year I went to dinner. The food took forever...forever to arrive, in a slow restaurant. Server got the order wrong. Food arrived very cold. Several items that were ordered were never provided. The server acted like a jerk as well. He ruined my meal and put a damper on the evening. The only way I made it positive was to take joy in the fact that he saved me money by me not leaving a tip.
 
Question on tipping: How do you tip hair dressers? My hair cuts come to 18 bucks I usually give 4-6 dollar tip.
 
yeah... which is exactly what i was describing. the restaurant i used to work at gave $5.50 an hour to wait staff and $4 dollars to bussers. most restaurants do this, that shouldnt come as a surprise to anyone
 
in australia tipping is pretty much non existant unless in a high end restaurant.

i dont leave tips because they are doing the job they were hired and are paid to do. if you are complaining you dont earn enough and live off tips get another fucking job.

we pay for a meal and that meal includes everything. why the fuck should we have to tip someone to bring it to us when thats their job and they get paid to do it.

when i was in canada, which i presume is not as bad as the us. the waitresses would practically hover over you because they wanted a tip. it wasnt tip worthy it was fucking annoying, especially when they are asking if you need anything every 5 fucking minutes.
 
The difference is a waitress in Australia gets 20-25 dollars an hour, and the meals generally cost at least 15% more. In my time in Australia, I found the cost of a meal to be about the same in both countries. a meal in Australia would be 20 dollars, but include everything. In Canada it's 13 dollars, but 15 percent tip and 15 percent tax brings it up to about the same.
 
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