Orage jackets at stylie for walking around town but a liftie I know had one and just carrying her skis on her shoulder ripped thru a shoulder before february last year. I have an M61 jacket and mine is still going strong. Also, you have something like a 120 day stitching guarantee with most jackets and with avalanche jackets you have like a year or two.
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Ice, snow, man-made, slush, powder, as long as u land on your feet nothing else matters
lates moe