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14470527:Lonely said:
I'm still not sold on having more than 140 travel and less than 165 hta unless you are riding bike park shit consistently but I am willing to be convinced otherwise
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No real reason unless you wanna plow or you want your suspension to take hits instead of your rims I guess. Head angle idk really it's nice insurance to be slacked out when you want more tire in front of you going over drops you can't quite roll when you're not quite going as fast as you want.

The big thing with new bikes is the seat tube is so straight up and down it really weights the front tire, good for smooth steep climbs but a little catchy when you expect a light front end climbing chunky stuff.

One thing to consider too with 140+ bikes is everything has a fox36 or more and they're so fuckin heavy compared to older bikes with 34's that worked fine for most things you can pedal that were way lighter. Honestly i have a 2017 trance I can't kill. I put a short stem on it and i still love it.

Maybe check out the ibis ripley af? I'm not sure pricepoint 27.5 bikes besides giant anymore tbh.

In the last 5 years or so bikes haven't changed too much besides maybe a slacker hta by a couple degrees or longer travel droppers and 12speeds. You'll dig whatever you get, it's just bikes after all.
 
14470639:DayMan said:
https://www.specialized.com/us/en/status-140/p/199765?color=320385-199765
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Wasn't even aware of this bike. An interesting option for sure. But damn, everything is incredible slack nowadays. I feel like it's similar to ski widths now where everyone is running 105mm plus on the waist width "just in case it snows more than 5 inches" lol
 
14470718:Lonely said:
Wasn't even aware of this bike. An interesting option for sure. But damn, everything is incredible slack nowadays. I feel like it's similar to ski widths now where everyone is running 105mm plus on the waist width "just in case it snows more than 5 inches" lol
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I have the 160 and love it to death but it’s also my first modern full suspension bike. Def not the best climber but it feels so good on the way down and thats the fun part anyway imo
 
14470481:Lonely said:
Looking at a bike but have been out of the "new mountain bike" game for a few years.

Looking at the canyon Neuron, Canyon Spectral, and YT Jeffsy. Other ones around the price range/spec of these that I should take a look at?

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You managed to pick the two companies with some of the worst customer service programs around.

They both make sick looking bikes, but...

YT took forever to quote my riding buddy $700 for his questionably (we think it was a defective carbon layup) cracked front triangle. (cracked on the side of the down tube, not a usual impact area). Pike St in WV patched it for him and he's been riding it, no issues, for like 2 years.

No first-hand experience with Canyon, but heard horror stories. Someone at the same shop had an XC race frame cracked around the rear dropout area and Canyon wouldn't even crash replace it or discount a frame. Just told him to fuck off and buy a new bike. Pike St fabbed up a rear triangle piece, I haven't heard about the bike since.

On the other hand,

I nuked a Commencal Clash front triangle at the weld (absolutely boss hogging, not surprised it went, still swear by the Clash) and Commy had a new frame to me for free within days.

Giant has an awesome crash replacement program, got my buddy a new frame after cracking his Reign no questions asked.

Sounds like you're after a trail/AM rig, there's a lot of good options, just have to see what fits your budget.

Transition Spur

Transition Scout

Transition Sentinel

Commencal Meta TR

Giant Trance X

Giant Reign

Specialized Stumpjumper

Speciliazed Stumpjumper EVO

Scor 4060 ST

Propain Hugene

Alternatively, find a good shop near you and see what brands they carry.

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14470481:Lonely said:
Looking at a bike but have been out of the "new mountain bike" game for a few years.

Looking at the canyon Neuron, Canyon Spectral, and YT Jeffsy. Other ones around the price range/spec of these that I should take a look at?

Skierman is not allowed to respond
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Transition sentinel
 
14470481:Lonely said:
Looking at a bike but have been out of the "new mountain bike" game for a few years.

Looking at the canyon Neuron, Canyon Spectral, and YT Jeffsy. Other ones around the price range/spec of these that I should take a look at?
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All great ideas but how about instead you look down the barrel of a loaded firearm? Fucking gaper.
 
Would using a vpn to be able to watch rampage on redbull tv work? Watching a replay is lame af and I’m not trying to pay

Shit also looks more like a slopestyle course every year
 
14471469:ski_salmon69 said:
Would using a vpn to be able to watch rampage on redbull tv work? Watching a replay is lame af and I’m not trying to pay

Shit also looks more like a slopestyle course every year
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With such a shitty and ignorant statement like that, you don't deserve to watch it live, you fucking kook.

"HURRR 2 MUCH LYKE SLOPESTYLE!! ITS NOT WHAT RAMPAGE SHULD BEEE! I JUST LURNED ABOUT RAMPAGE A COUPLE YAERS AGO! DURRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!"

The newer crop of fanboys like this jackass are so fucking cringy.
 
14471488:skierman said:
With such a shitty and ignorant statement like that, you don't deserve to watch it live, you fucking kook.

"HURRR 2 MUCH LYKE SLOPESTYLE!! ITS NOT WHAT RAMPAGE SHULD BEEE! I JUST LURNED ABOUT RAMPAGE A COUPLE YAERS AGO! DURRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!"

The newer crop of fanboys like this jackass are so fucking cringy.
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Lol, you would be the first person to whine about lines being more and more developed.
 
14471488:skierman said:
With such a shitty and ignorant statement like that, you don't deserve to watch it live, you fucking kook.

"HURRR 2 MUCH LYKE SLOPESTYLE!! ITS NOT WHAT RAMPAGE SHULD BEEE! I JUST LURNED ABOUT RAMPAGE A COUPLE YAERS AGO! DURRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!"

The newer crop of fanboys like this jackass are so fucking cringy.
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Sorry you didn't get the invite this year
 
Revolution Bike Park here in the UK closing next year due to tree disease in the forest.

Not sure how well-known it is over in North America but if you haven't heard of it, go take a look on youtube. It's a serious serious place and it's a horrible shame it's closing!
 
14471990:TheMailMan said:
Revolution Bike Park here in the UK closing next year due to tree disease in the forest.

Not sure how well-known it is over in North America but if you haven't heard of it, go take a look on youtube. It's a serious serious place and it's a horrible shame it's closing!
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Yea so bummed about that, one of the coolest bike parks in the world imo.
 
Some of those trails in Revolution are absolutely mind blowing. Gutted to hear about the closing. Can’t imagine how bummed the locals are rn.
 
14472596:jimbobs said:
Some of those trails in Revolution are absolutely mind blowing. Gutted to hear about the closing. Can’t imagine how bummed the locals are rn.
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Yeah man, awesome park. Gutted I didn't get to ride there more.

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Awful news for the local riders, people losing their jobs of course, and for the local tiny village (doesn't even have phone reception) which is going to lose a lot of its tourism!!
 
14471990:TheMailMan said:
Revolution Bike Park here in the UK closing next year due to tree disease in the forest.

Not sure how well-known it is over in North America but if you haven't heard of it, go take a look on youtube. It's a serious serious place and it's a horrible shame it's closing!
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I know it's not as good, but isn't Dyfi close by? Sucks. Sudden Oak Death is a serious disease for trees though, and can wipe out entire forests. It can spread from the mud on your bike/car tires too (and we all know there's plenty of moisture in that region)
 
14473652:ThaLorax said:
I know it's not as good, but isn't Dyfi close by? Sucks. Sudden Oak Death is a serious disease for trees though, and can wipe out entire forests. It can spread from the mud on your bike/car tires too (and we all know there's plenty of moisture in that region)
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Yeah it's only an hour or so away. A lot of riders would argue Dyfi is superior but it depends what you're after really. I've always preferred Revs personally. Dyfi is quite flat in some parts, I find myself pedalling quite often there especially if it's windy because it's so exposed.
 
14482359:foolmetwice said:
closest singletrack to SLC proper that’s rideable for the majority of the winter?
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Eagle Mountain will be your best bet. It stays rideable for most of the winter. Next up maybe Richfield, then your headed to Moab or St. George.
 
14482880:Ski_Alot said:
Shit man that's a screaming deal. You work for Transition or something??
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He just realizes the used bike market is as saturated with nice bikes as it’s ever been.
 
14482918:GANDALF said:
Nope. Just trying to hook someone up.
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Dang thats stupid tempting, but I probs won't have enough cash super soon cause I just picked up a new fatbike. Anybody want to buy my old fatbike?
 
14488097:Skibumsmith said:
How are the conditions in bham right now? Does galbrath hold snow during the winter?
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the entire mountain biking scene imploded. We all ride One Wheels now
 
Anyone have some new-ish XC bike suggestions? Going to go poke around some local shops and see what kind of overstock they have since the bike market actually seems to be slowing down. At least in my region (South east)
 
Full on xc or something fun?

14490197:Kooky_Lukey said:
Anyone have some new-ish XC bike suggestions? Going to go poke around some local shops and see what kind of overstock they have since the bike market actually seems to be slowing down. At least in my region (South east)
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14490242:Celery said:
Full on xc or something fun?
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Probably something more "fun" or "downcountry" as all the cool kids are saying. I already have a 160mm Niner Rip 9 so I just need something with a little less travel
 
14490532:Kooky_Lukey said:
Probably something more "fun" or "downcountry" as all the cool kids are saying. I already have a 160mm Niner Rip 9 so I just need something with a little less travel
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Transition Spur or Rocky Mtn Element would be at the top of my list for that category, maybe Spec Epic Evo on the racier side
 
Absolutely love my Element. We all hear how capable these new downcountry bikes can be but it really is. While it won't be as composed in the most technical terrain, it can still be nimble enough to be more precise in line choice or correcting line choices quickly. Also stoked on the quality of it, bikepacked the Colorado Trail on it and I couldn't believe that it didn't even make a creak or have any other issue, even through all the rain/mud I encountered.
 
ibis ripley or ripley af would be good options as well. little more aggressive tho. have not ridden either but i have a ripmo af and it pedals super well so i imagine the ripley is even better
 
14490532:Kooky_Lukey said:
Probably something more "fun" or "downcountry" as all the cool kids are saying. I already have a 160mm Niner Rip 9 so I just need something with a little less travel
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The new evil following in green is so sick

Evils also pedal insanely well and are still very fun down the hill.
 
https://unofficialnetworks.com/2022/05/11/mt-hood-skibowl-biking-lawsuit/

Unsure if its been touched on here already but now that I report up to the legal team, this case comes up a lot. 8 figure lawsuit that is absolutely altering the future of lift access mountain biking in the US. I don’t think there is a single resort in North America where they bring in $10 mill in revenue let alone profit in a single season. The precedence this lawsuit set has a lot of resorts reconsidering the direction of their bike haul thats for sure. If one crash costs a resort multiple years of revenue to recover from, it makes no business sense to continue taking on that risk.

Skiing has the skier safety act in many states. Passing something similar to that in this political climate will be really hard. At least in the blue states.
 
14490620:dognuts said:
ibis ripley or ripley af would be good options as well. little more aggressive tho. have not ridden either but i have a ripmo af and it pedals super well so i imagine the ripley is even better
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I ride a ripley and it is very aggressive but also just a short travel version of the ripmo. I love it and I race XC with it as well as ride park sometimes altho I like riding the ripmo more for park and just goofing around.
 
14490801:partyandBS said:
https://unofficialnetworks.com/2022/05/11/mt-hood-skibowl-biking-lawsuit/

Unsure if its been touched on here already but now that I report up to the legal team, this case comes up a lot. 8 figure lawsuit that is absolutely altering the future of lift access mountain biking in the US. I don’t think there is a single resort in North America where they bring in $10 mill in revenue let alone profit in a single season. The precedence this lawsuit set has a lot of resorts reconsidering the direction of their bike haul thats for sure. If one crash costs a resort multiple years of revenue to recover from, it makes no business sense to continue taking on that risk.

Skiing has the skier safety act in many states. Passing something similar to that in this political climate will be really hard. At least in the blue states.
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Oh fuck you. Ski Bowl was not innocent in this case.

They were warned multiple times about this drainage ditch by riders, a couple of which were severely injured in the same spot, and employees and yet they didn't take the minimal effort to cover the drainage ditch with fucking wood. Ya know, basic trail building shit.

You also don't need a trail sign as a fucking 4x4 wooden post sticking out of the ground for someone to smash into. There's a reason why competent MTB parks use thin, flexible PVC pipes at intersections because they know its fucking dumb to use a giant wooden post someone could run into.

And now they're blaming this dude for closing down their MTB park? Nah, corporate indifference and mismanagement caused the shut down. This will not affect other MTB parks.
 
14490861:skierman said:
Oh fuck you. Ski Bowl was not innocent in this case.

They were warned multiple times about this drainage ditch by riders, a couple of which were severely injured in the same spot, and employees and yet they didn't take the minimal effort to cover the drainage ditch with fucking wood. Ya know, basic trail building shit.

You also don't need a trail sign as a fucking 4x4 wooden post sticking out of the ground for someone to smash into. There's a reason why competent MTB parks use thin, flexible PVC pipes at intersections because they know its fucking dumb to use a giant wooden post someone could run into.

And now they're blaming this dude for closing down their MTB park? Nah, corporate indifference and mismanagement caused the shut down. This will not affect other MTB parks.
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Lol i never said the resort was innocent. The article is the one painting the picture of the guy who fell bring the bad guy.

Ski Bowl did an absolute terrible job through and through thus why they lost. They had the video of the scene thrown out because there was so much speculation on it from the patroler who responded. They reworked the feature before a third party could get to it. As you were saying the signage was absolutely ridiculous being a 4x4 and that close to the trail. Also, Waiver are not enforceable in OR like they are in other states.

my point is that $10 mill is way more than resorts make in the summer. They can not sustain business with those types of lawsuits. I know for a fact that based off of this settlement alone that resorts are taking very serious looks at their operations and how mountain biking fits into it. Its already pretty limited in profits compared to skiing
 
14490872:partyandBS said:
Lol i never said the resort was innocent. The article is the one painting the picture of the guy who fell bring the bad guy.

Ski Bowl did an absolute terrible job through and through thus why they lost. They had the video of the scene thrown out because there was so much speculation on it from the patroler who responded. They reworked the feature before a third party could get to it. As you were saying the signage was absolutely ridiculous being a 4x4 and that close to the trail. Also, Waiver are not enforceable in OR like they are in other states.

my point is that $10 mill is way more than resorts make in the summer. They can not sustain business with those types of lawsuits. I know for a fact that based off of this settlement alone that resorts are taking very serious looks at their operations and how mountain biking fits into it. Its already pretty limited in profits compared to skiing
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Clearly you're a fucking idiot who bought into that story because you thought this would be the end of MTB parks. Fuck you.
 
14490875:skierman said:
Clearly you're a fucking idiot who bought into that story because you thought this would be the end of MTB parks. Fuck you.
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naw this incident came up at a risk and legal summit I was at. Then immediately after a canadian resort gave a presentation about how they eliminated bike haul and it was painted as a success story. Ya boy was not into it but I took good notes lol.
 
14490801:partyandBS said:
https://unofficialnetworks.com/2022/05/11/mt-hood-skibowl-biking-lawsuit/

Unsure if its been touched on here already but now that I report up to the legal team, this case comes up a lot. 8 figure lawsuit that is absolutely altering the future of lift access mountain biking in the US. I don’t think there is a single resort in North America where they bring in $10 mill in revenue let alone profit in a single season. The precedence this lawsuit set has a lot of resorts reconsidering the direction of their bike haul thats for sure. If one crash costs a resort multiple years of revenue to recover from, it makes no business sense to continue taking on that risk.

Skiing has the skier safety act in many states. Passing something similar to that in this political climate will be really hard. At least in the blue states.
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I'll also add that Oregon is particularly hostile toward resorts when it comes to lawsuits like this. Bachelor has been sued repeatedly in recent years for skier deaths and injuries. They've had to institute a liability waiver for ticket sales to reduce their legal risk. Hood is unfortunately located in a state with few protections. The whole situation is sad, but case outcomes like this ruin access to outdoor activities for everyone.

In a state like Colorado, the resort would be acquitted and the case tossed. The state is highly protective of its outdoor industry.

I took an outdoor industry law class this fall and we learned a lot about this case and similar ones impacting the industry right now. If Oregon isn't careful, lawsuits could drive away some of the larger recreation tourism dollars in their state.
 
The PNW! Time for some ocean influences.

14491693:Skibumsmith said:
Where are you moving to?

The only reason i ask is because I enjoy seeing the influence that the tetons have on your art.

**This post was edited on Dec 18th 2022 at 6:40:43pm
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