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*TURBONERD*
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I'm thinking about getting a second bike. In currently riding a mainly stock KHS Yuma, but I've thrown some Stan's on it and gone tubeless and Spank 777 handlebars. I'm looking for a freeride bike that will behave fairly similarly to my Yuma in terms of handling. Any recommendations?
13399288:Carl_the_Llama said:Bike.
Kind of a project for me, recently got this frame and switched all my parts over. Now has small block eights. I'm not huge into biking, but looking to get more into it now that I have a bike I actually like...
Parts list. Any input on stuff to upgrade asap would be dope!
Frame: deity street sweeper
Headset: FSA
BB: Spanish; came with frame, probably needs replacing...
Stem: blkmrkt underboss
Bars: blkmrkt bada-bing
Grips: odi longnecks
Brake(s): Avid juicy 3
Fork: Marzocchi dj3
Wheels: not too sure... probably need replacing...
Tires: kenda sb8
Seat: blkmrkt knuckle-something-er-other...
Cranks: some sort of three piece bmx style cranks...
Yah.... It was a 2008 blkmrkt 357 that I bought used, gonna gradually get it custom and decent... Mostly stock at the moment... But it's getting there...
Nice bike. I'd honestly just start riding it and not worry about upgrading it. Sure, a bike could get better components but for a great platform and something that will give you hours of enjoyment I'd just ride it the way it is. I built up a similar bike but need new tread in a bad way. How do you like the small blocks? Great tire from what I've heard for urban/dj.
Carl_the_Llama
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13399604:dmski said:
Thanks. Yah, I'm not too sure what my plan is... Probably gonna change parts that I have an issue with, and ride others till they break or something... I have been really enjoying it so far though.
Yah, so far the small blocks have been good. I've only had them for a week or so, so don't have a lot of time on them yet... But it sounded like a good all round sort of DJ/street tire from what I'd heard on pinkbike...
What bike do you have? Probably in here somewhere, but don't really want to search 25 pages...
13399728:Carl_the_Llama said:
Cool! Between NS and pinkbike I could die happy. I've got two bikes I've built so I'll call them franken-bikes. One is a specialized big hit with a kona operator boxxer fork on the front and the other is a general issue frame with the most random assortment of used parts you will ever see. I need a rear tire for general issue as I only had an extra set of chunder tires (I think?) and I had to cut the knobs off the rear tire to make it clear the frame...
This is after I built the general issue so a few things have changed. I will eventually go single speed but I wanted to do the most budget build possible so I had a cog and derailur lying around from some other bike. Works pretty well actually for a dirt jump/trail bike.
Carl_the_Llama
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13399778:dmski said:Cool! Between NS and pinkbike I could die happy. I've got two bikes I've built so I'll call them franken-bikes. One is a specialized big hit with a kona operator boxxer fork on the front and the other is a general issue frame with the most random assortment of used parts you will ever see. I need a rear tire for general issue as I only had an extra set of chunder tires (I think?) and I had to cut the knobs off the rear tire to make it clear the frame...
This is after I built the general issue so a few things have changed. I will eventually go single speed but I wanted to do the most budget build possible so I had a cog and derailur lying around from some other bike. Works pretty well actually for a dirt jump/trail bike.
Haha for sure!
Nice! I think that would probably be the kind of bike setup I would want; DJ/street for messin around, and some sort of dh/xc/all mountain for trails and dh... Not sure how my DJ is gonna hold up at the bike park aha...
Carl_the_Llama
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Just had a super fun/enjoyable ride. I really like biking...
NinetyFour
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Some of you guys might like this, GCN recently launched GMBN. Both are great channels that feature a lot of awesome content, this one is probably a personal fave:
13400236:byubound said:
I'd be interested. I try to help out at Collonade since that place is always a wreck. Its closesness to seattle makes it appealing. Duthie is by far the best option for gravity related stuff so i love it there as well. Depends on the weekend but I could pull together my brothers and a few friends if you get this going.
NinetyFour
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So my pictures are going to be all messed up because I uploaded from my iPad... Anyways here's the pre and post tubeless conversion weights for my Farley, and a picture of my ultra sketchy hanging method; the bike was entirely hanging off the scale though for each weigh in though. I re-weighed the bike without any accessories as I had earlier in the thread, so it was just the complete bike with Shimano M-780 pedals, and for the tubeless there is 5oz. of sealant in each tire. My scale is also a fish scale and won't give me decimal pound weights either, only ounces and fractional measurements but I'll include the rounded up decimal weights.
Pre (31.22lbs):
Post (28.93lbs):
The sketchy setup.
The difference is a whopping 2.29lbs. That's a lot of weight saved should they hold air good. The only thing that kind of sucked was the 75MM wide tape that came with the Orange Seal kit didn't work out in the tire, just because of how the Jackalopes hoops are made. Luckily I had some normal rim tape, and it covered the spoke bed holes perfectly. The wide tape would be pointless in these rims anyways.
Pre (31.22lbs):
Post (28.93lbs):
The sketchy setup.
The difference is a whopping 2.29lbs. That's a lot of weight saved should they hold air good. The only thing that kind of sucked was the 75MM wide tape that came with the Orange Seal kit didn't work out in the tire, just because of how the Jackalopes hoops are made. Luckily I had some normal rim tape, and it covered the spoke bed holes perfectly. The wide tape would be pointless in these rims anyways.
division.bell
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13403900:NinetyFour said:
That is a very impressive weight reduction!
5oz? Is that the recommended amount for your 3.8" tires? I'm planning on 8oz for each 4.6" tire for starters.
NinetyFour
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13403935:division.bell said:
Being completely honest I'm clueless as to how much sealant I should run in each tire. Bontrager doesn't have any suggestions with their product info and everyone else has just done their own thing. I've heard of people using a stupidly minimal 2oz. while some others have been using up to 8oz. Orange Seal's kit for fatbikes suggested 4oz. per tire. Based on all of that I kind of split on the high side of the middle and went for 5oz per tire.
This is how the Jackalope rim is though:
I guess it would take less to seal up a rim like that, compared to one with cutouts and a rim strip. I think the only other wheels with a solid construction like that are Whiskey's No.9 and HED's Big Deal?
Really I guess I'll find out with time. As of right now it sounds like an absolute waterfall when I give the tire a slow spin. I'm going to put in an XC ride tomorrow that's mostly long bumpy fireroad climbing, so we'll see how it sounds after that.
californiagrown
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13405527:mike759 said:
Skate shoes if you have em, sneakers if you don't. Gym shorts are fine, jorts are cool too.
Basically you will look like a gaper until you actually get MTB specific stuff, but who cares? Just go ride, have fun and get better slowly. Start buying stuff as you need it.
*TURBONERD*
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13405527:mike759 said:
Jorts are indeed surprisingly functional. I also recommend some shorts with a built in chamois (crotch padding),you'll grow to love it.
cydwhit
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13405647:mike759 said:
Dude, I usually ride AM/endoro and cyclocross in jorts. Used to race downhill in Carhartt's for the protection. If you are on flats just go with skate shoes and you'll be fine. Around here at least only the XC snobs really dress up, everyone that actually rips doesn't care what you wear. And on the helmet thing... I'm sure there is something wrong with this but I rode in a skate helmet for a long time before I went full face.
Dang I need to get back into riding. As soon as that summer job money kicks in I'm hoping back on something.
californiagrown
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13405647:mike759 said:
13405803:cydwhit said:
Ain't nothing wrong with a skate helmet. It'll be more protective than most half shell helmets anyways- just hotter.
Full face, flannel, Carhart duck pants, 5.10s is the go to 3 season uniform for a lot of shredders in the PNW haha.
stupendous-man
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13407358:GANDALF said:
the 5.10 rubber is so sticky that I actually prefer riding in my five year old nike mid tops over my freeriders. only on super wet/muddy days will i bring out the 5.10s.
saskskier
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Clipless of flats? I plan on riding out in Calgary area/Canmore/crowsnest pass/etc pretty regularly, but lots of my daily riding will be out in the bald prairie of southern Ab. in fields and crap because I live in the middle of nowhere.
I've always ridden flats, but have always bmxed or ridden street/DJ hard tails. Maybe experiment with clipless out here and see what I like better?
Any suggestions for pedals?
I've always ridden flats, but have always bmxed or ridden street/DJ hard tails. Maybe experiment with clipless out here and see what I like better?
Any suggestions for pedals?
*TURBONERD*
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13407847:Yergz. said:
I personally really enjoy the feeling of connection to the rear of the bike with clipless; particularly with hardtails it's very easy to pop the back wheel over stuff. Then again, that's also possible on good flats.
*TURBONERD*
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13408014:saskskier said:
Yes, absolutely in terms of increasing pedaling efficiency. It also means you can use more muscle groups and spread out the workload.
stupendous-man
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13407791:byubound said:
deity decoy
13407840:saskskier said:
I've done both and went flats due to what I like to ride. I'm into the gravity side of things (though I still love to ride single track) and hence I like the flats for DJ/freeride/dh stuff. When I wanna bail, I wanna bail! But in all reality I just don't utilize what clipless do for you which is help on the upstroke of pedaling and using more muscles. I'm not pedaling for efficiency and long rides, its all short quick bursts of speed paired with air time and possible feet off the pedals more than anything. Plus I like the connection to the bike where I can move my foot around on the pedals.
stupendous-man
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is anyone else stoked as fuck on the FEST series
*TURBONERD*
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13409300:erica said:
Yeah, why did you use a fisheye to take that?