Official 2016-2017 Gear Rumor Thread

13600984:razors-chaz said:
asymmetrical skis are nothing really new, while not NS first stop when it comes to looking for skis, Elan have been doing it for years in most of their line. Any idea if theyve done it with an asymmetric rocker like they do with elans?
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I don't think Elan has been doing asymmetric sidecut. They have been doing full camber on the inside edge and early ride in the tip and tail on the outside edge; I'm pretty sure the sidecut was the same on each side of the ski.

Definitely want to check out the Marksman.
 
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So kinda a crappy pic but this is from Tom wallisch snap chat. Looks like Tim is rocking some Good Company goggles. And toms on some new skis.
 
13601067:Lemuel said:
I don't think Elan has been doing asymmetric sidecut. They have been doing full camber on the inside edge and early ride in the tip and tail on the outside edge; I'm pretty sure the sidecut was the same on each side of the ski.

Definitely want to check out the Marksman.
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Yeah the marksman is differnt from what Elan do. The best way to think of it is two skis put together. You hav the pinnacle on the outside with the long tapered tip. This shapes tracks really well throughout up snow. The inside uses the shreditor shape. This shape with the widest point closer to the tip is more playfull and easier to butter. Put them together though and you get a ski which will be as playfull as any ski but track as well as the best freeride skis.
 
13601123:tomPietrowski said:
Yeah the marksman is differnt from what Elan do. The best way to think of it is two skis put together. You hav the pinnacle on the outside with the long tapered tip. This shapes tracks really well throughout up snow. The inside uses the shreditor shape. This shape with the widest point closer to the tip is more playfull and easier to butter. Put them together though and you get a ski which will be as playfull as any ski but track as well as the best freeride skis.
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well, this is embarrasing, i just figured they would have changed the sidecut to match the rocker profile, clearly i was wrong, surely elan, as the leaders of asymmetry they will have tried this before k2?
 
13601134:razors-chaz said:
well, this is embarrasing, i just figured they would have changed the sidecut to match the rocker profile, clearly i was wrong, surely elan, as the leaders of asymmetry they will have tried this before k2?
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If they have I don't know of it. It's a cool concept and even if it has been tired elsewhere hopefully this is the ski which makes it work, and with pep behind it, I'm very hopefully. Hopefully getting mine this week so I'll let you guys know more soon.
 
13600150:Kbob94 said:
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New K2 Pep Fujas pro model the Marksman
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I always knew TBK was ahead of its time.

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13600150:Kbob94 said:
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New K2 Pep Fujas pro model the Marksman
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I currently ski the shreditor 112 as a daily driver/park ski. It rips everything I can throw at it and really feels like a "man's" ski. Word is that this new Pep pro ski will replace both the 102 and 112? Really? So if I want a wider park ski from K2 this dick shaped, girl colors ski is gonna be my only choice? Pretty disappointing from the same company that used to give us the Enemy and the Hellbent.
 
13601831:teamdummy said:
I currently ski the shreditor 112 as a daily driver/park ski. It rips everything I can throw at it and really feels like a "man's" ski. Word is that this new Pep pro ski will replace both the 102 and 112? Really? So if I want a wider park ski from K2 this dick shaped, girl colors ski is gonna be my only choice? Pretty disappointing from the same company that used to give us the Enemy and the Hellbent.
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I'm more surprised considering that by having an asymmetrical "park" ski you are effectively lessening the edge life by half since you probably can't swap them too well (idk how they ski, maybe swapping them just lengthens the turn radius, or they could just catch edge way easier). I think it would be much better if K2 kept the 102
 
13601530:iggyskier said:
I always knew TBK was ahead of its time.

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Ahaha, totally forgot about those. Inb4 a TBK2 collab.

Admittedly I almost dabbled in the asymmetrical sidecut game last year. I built up a template for a ski I was going to call the Eleanor as in 'L&R'. It was asymmetrical side to side, but symmetrical tip to tail. Here's the template:

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(Lets just take a moment to admire how dick like that thing looks...) Aside from that I never pursed building it into a ski because I did a terrible job cutting out the template, and I felt my time was far better spent on other ideas (that may just surface sometime later this winter...?). My biggest worry with the design was how it would track, but I was going to offset the mount to the left or right so that the surface areas would be equal side to side to somehow make the tracking better. That was really just a random idea, ha, I'm sure a crooked mount probably isn't a new thing either anyways.

I'm sure the Marksman will work just fine. I guess I'd have to ride them and other like skis a LOT though to decided whether the asymmetry is a performance gain or not, however.
 
13602296:freeski1620 said:
For sure his new pro model ski. We got a pair for the shop yesterday :)

Unfortunately there not called the whamsticks or the whammy sticks.
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Thats awesome! Do u have a better picture of them.
 
13601854:w_skier said:
I'm more surprised considering that by having an asymmetrical "park" ski you are effectively lessening the edge life by half since you probably can't swap them too well (idk how they ski, maybe swapping them just lengthens the turn radius, or they could just catch edge way easier). I think it would be much better if K2 kept the 102
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The marks man is not really a park ski that is the poacher. The marksman is really your freeride ski and for park you have the poacher, domain or sight. For pow there is still the powabunga and the pepitor. Personally I think 96 and 102 are close enough so I'm not too worried about loosing the shreditor 102 and the marksman is a big improvement over the 112 in my opinion.
 
13602321:tomPietrowski said:
The marks man is not really a park ski that is the poacher. The marksman is really your freeride ski and for park you have the poacher, domain or sight. For pow there is still the powabunga and the pepitor. Personally I think 96 and 102 are close enough so I'm not too worried about loosing the shreditor 102 and the marksman is a big improvement over the 112 in my opinion.
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Since the 189cm 112 is my favorite ski of all time I'm interested to see how this thing actually performs!
 
13602321:tomPietrowski said:
The marks man is not really a park ski that is the poacher. The marksman is really your freeride ski and for park you have the poacher, domain or sight. For pow there is still the powabunga and the pepitor. Personally I think 96 and 102 are close enough so I'm not too worried about loosing the shreditor 102 and the marksman is a big improvement over the 112 in my opinion.
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Well that's good. Have you got a chance to ride them yet?
 
13602413:Profahoben_212 said:
Well that's good. Have you got a chance to ride them yet?
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Not yet hopefully should be getting some by the end of the week. I have been on the new boot for a month or so though
 
13602488:tomPietrowski said:
Not yet hopefully should be getting some by the end of the week. I have been on the new boot for a month or so though
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What's the fit like compared to this year's pinnacles? Volume wise, I found the old ones ridiculously tight...
 
13602924:Carl_the_Llama said:
What's the fit like compared to this year's pinnacles? Volume wise, I found the old ones ridiculously tight...
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There are a few differences I found. In the standard pinnacle I found quite a bit of pressure on the instep and had to move the instep buckle. Wit the new pro I actually found I had to add heel lifts to better fit the instep. I feel as though the shell is similar but the new liner has less volume over the old one. I'm certainly proffering the fit of the new boot.
 
13603030:tomPietrowski said:
There are a few differences I found. In the standard pinnacle I found quite a bit of pressure on the instep and had to move the instep buckle. Wit the new pro I actually found I had to add heel lifts to better fit the instep. I feel as though the shell is similar but the new liner has less volume over the old one. I'm certainly proffering the fit of the new boot.
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That sounds positive... Still an intuition liner?
 
Wally got a pro model (Think we all knew that was gonna happen), as well as the Sick Day graphic is godly, also some crazy new pow ski, ill let you all wait for. Also Honey Badger don't give a S*it.
 
13604180:ICary said:
Wally got a pro model (Think we all knew that was gonna happen), as well as the Sick Day graphic is godly, also some crazy new pow ski, ill let you all wait for. Also Honey Badger don't give a S*it.
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By crazy pow ski you mean the split tail one called the Pescado...that's not quite a new concept?
 
13605811:Profahoben_212 said:
Did they make any big changes to the chets?
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Just graphic updates I believe I'm correct in saying. The backland ski is what you want to ask onenerdy about.

Armada are killing it too wit the new range
 
13605828:tomPietrowski said:
Just graphic updates I believe I'm correct in saying. The backland ski is what you want to ask onenerdy about.

Armada are killing it too wit the new range
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OoooOooOoOoo....onenerdykid wanna chime in?
 
13605856:cydwhit said:
Something similar to an automatic with the Bent's HRZN tech I believe?
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Pretty much it looks like a full twin though (odd under the backland name) so it looks like a narrower bent which would be very cool
 
13605872:tomPietrowski said:
Oakley have a new goggle and some touring products which look nice too
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Saw the new goggle a while back, looked to be an O2 XL shape with a Prizm lense. Haven't heard about the touring gear though, sounds kind of weird...
 
13605880:j.w.v said:
Saw the new goggle a while back, looked to be an O2 XL shape with a Prizm lense. Haven't heard about the touring gear though, sounds kind of weird...
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Not the goggle I saw. The other product is more so a product that could be utilized for touring rather then perhaps being built directly for it.
 
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