Official 2016-2017 Gear Rumor Thread

13606281:therealsassy said:
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Think you're right Tim durtschi just posted this
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Pretty sure those are just the new Bentchetlers, there were a pair with that graphic in the Dakine booth at OR, same dimensions as the old Bent.

Now though, if Tom is right about new "blog like" ski with HRZN I may just wet my pants with stoke
 
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Well since Tim posted a pic of the bent chets I'd say it's okay if I did. Here's a close up on the chets.

Photo kindly taken and sent to me by Cy. Not sure why you didn't post this yourself!
 
13606447:.lencon said:
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Well since Tim posted a pic of the bent chets I'd say it's okay if I did. Here's a close up on the chets.

Photo kindly taken and sent to me by Cy. Not sure why you didn't post this yourself!
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Ha! Thanks! Real nice looking ski in person, a tie in my mind with this year's for prettiest Bentchetler graphic. Thanks for throwing that up, was too lazy to grab it off my phone, when I knew in two weeks everyone will have seen it at SIA, haha
 
13605799:tomPietrowski said:
Just had a pair of these on. Not a bad boot :) that new bentchetler is so nice as is that backland ski
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The new Hawx Ultra is the boot I alluded to in my NS interview. It is the lightest "normal" alpine boot (read: four buckles, non-walk mode, real liner, true flex). There will be an entire range of models from 130-100 flexes for men and 110-80 for women. If any of you guys have a narrow/narrow-medium foot, this boot will be literally pounds lighter than your existing boot and a significant difference on your feet while skiing. More agile in the trees, less swing weight when you get all flippy, etc.

13605832:Profahoben_212 said:
OoooOooOoOoo....onenerdykid wanna chime in?
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If you caught the OR tradeshow highlights, the Automatic series moves into the Backland family as "Backland FR" and gains the HRZN tech from the Bentchetler, but just the tip. No technical changes to the Bentchetler, just graphic updates from Chris.
 
13606745:clayton.verellen said:
Will pinnicle boots come out with a hv (102) model?
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The 110 and 100 both come in 102. The 130 comes in 96 and 100 and the pro just 100. But remember they all have heat mouldable shells so the given measurement is only a starting point.
 
13606789:tomPietrowski said:
The 110 and 100 both come in 102. The 130 comes in 96 and 100 and the pro just 100. But remember they all have heat mouldable shells so the given measurement is only a starting point.
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Ok, hold up. So in regard to the pinnacle, there is; ?

-4 models

-All with tech inserts in the plastic

-higher instep

-heat moldable shell

Please tell me they fixed the buckle/walk mode issues on them?

Did they get any lighter?
 
13606857:freeski1620 said:
Unfortunately I'm not allowed to until after SIA. it is a dope looking and riding ski. For sure worthy of the Wallisch name
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Oh that's totally ok. I completely understand that. That's awesome I'm stoked for it to come out and get a pair of them.
 
13606880:Kbob94 said:
Oh that's totally ok. I completely understand that. That's awesome I'm stoked for it to come out and get a pair of them.
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You should be for sure. The ski will sell for $449 MAP. I think it will probably be the best value park ski on the market next season.
 
13606886:freeski1620 said:
You should be for sure. The ski will sell for $449 MAP. I think it will probably be the best value park ski on the market next season.
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Nice I'm glad to hear it!
 
13606805:Carl_the_Llama said:
Ok, hold up. So in regard to the pinnacle, there is; ?

-4 models

-All with tech inserts in the plastic

-higher instep

-heat moldable shell

Please tell me they fixed the buckle/walk mode issues on them?

Did they get any lighter?
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- there are four models, pinnacle pro, 130, 110 and 100 (100 and 80 for woman) but the 100 and the 80 for woman don't have tech inserts, the rest do.

- the volume of the instep and throat will change depending if it's low volume (97mm), mid (100mm) or high (102mm)

- all boots from k2 have a heat mouldable shell, including the new pebax pinnacle pro.

- you will be as pleased to know as me that the walk mode does feel much better. I have been on the pro for a little over a month and once I got the cuff pivots tightened there has been no play in the cuff. They are way better then the 130's I tested last season.

-the new pebax pinnacle pro loses 380g of weight compared to the 130.
 
13606930:tomPietrowski said:
- there are four models, pinnacle pro, 130, 110 and 100 (100 and 80 for woman) but the 100 and the 80 for woman don't have tech inserts, the rest do.

- the volume of the instep and throat will change depending if it's low volume (97mm), mid (100mm) or high (102mm)

- all boots from k2 have a heat mouldable shell, including the new pebax pinnacle pro.

- you will be as pleased to know as me that the walk mode does feel much better. I have been on the pro for a little over a month and once I got the cuff pivots tightened there has been no play in the cuff. They are way better then the 130's I tested last season.

-the new pebax pinnacle pro loses 380g of weight compared to the 130.
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Damn! Alright, thanks. The pro sounds sick, looking forward to a full review.
 
13606886:freeski1620 said:
You should be for sure. The ski will sell for $449 MAP. I think it will probably be the best value park ski on the market next season.
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Except it will be line. So it won't be. Lines are like condoms, single use or they get too many holes. ;^)
 
13606616:onenerdykid said:
The new Hawx Ultra is the boot I alluded to in my NS interview. It is the lightest "normal" alpine boot (read: four buckles, non-walk mode, real liner, true flex). There will be an entire range of models from 130-100 flexes for men and 110-80 for women. If any of you guys have a narrow/narrow-medium foot, this boot will be literally pounds lighter than your existing boot and a significant difference on your feet while skiing. More agile in the trees, less swing weight when you get all flippy, etc.
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Are they seriously going to be that much lighter? I'd be pretty damn thrilled with that.

 
13607303:NinetyFour said:
Are they seriously going to be that much lighter? I'd be pretty damn thrilled with that.

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Yep, and not just the top model but all models will be super light (but the top model is the lightest). The 130 weighs 1680g in size 26.5 and most "normal" ski boots are around 2,200g (some are lighter, some are heavier), which makes the difference over 1 pound per boot. Quick math is over 2 pounds per pair. Now there are other lighter boots coming out this year from other brands, but they will have walk modes.
 
13608197:cydwhit said:
So... Between KF (I'm assuming?) and Daymaker we've got two day wrecker improvements? Interesting, most interesting.... But this one requires the CAST Tech toe mod right?
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It will be compatible with Lupo TI, Lupo TI Carbon, Cochise line, Pinnacle line, XT Tour line, Roxa Cliff Notes, or any boot with the toe mod.
 
13608206:KyleA said:
It will be compatible with Lupo TI, Lupo TI Carbon, Cochise line, Pinnacle line, XT Tour line, Roxa Cliff Notes, or any boot with the toe mod.
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Well, yeah... heck if you have the WTR FKS you could probably use it with the MTN Lab and a plethora of other boots?

Just trying to get a feel for what's gonna differentiate the competition in this space...
 
13606050:marrows said:
not sure if already posted, but Armada is bringing out a carbon fibre ski (JJ?).
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Not full carbon, but a lighter JJ with a lighter core and added carbon yes..
 
13608659:Ghini said:
Not full carbon, but a lighter JJ with a lighter core and added carbon yes..
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Heard they are more of a limited edition type ski for shops and such more than a complete run.... not sure if that is 100% true though
 
13608823:Pmoore said:
Heard they are more of a limited edition type ski for shops and such more than a complete run.... not sure if that is 100% true though
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Yea its called the zero collection, ar8s, some outerwear, declevities and JJ zeros as well as a few other things are gunna have limited edition runs
 
13609704:japanada said:
Just alllllmost, kinda, reminds me of the OG lizzys at first sight.
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I can see that. I love that era of pollard's drawings. The original Black and White Lizzy, green Sir Francis Bacon with funky animals, and the second EP Pro with the tree design from the credits of IDEA. I just need to find some old SFB's and complete my collection.
 
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