NYE attacks in Cologne, Germany

[Campeador]

This is one of the reasons that causes fear of refugees, which results in Nationalism.

Nationalism is the only hope you've got, just make sure it's not National Socialism.

As someone who's great-grandfather and grandfather fought in wars against the kaiser and Hitler, I absolve you of your Nazi war guilt.

It's painful to watch your country slowly commit suicide. However, it is unforgivable that as Germans, after all the pain and suffering you've inflicted on the countries of Europe, that you would inflict even more by inviting in millions of muslims, and forcing the spread of Islam throughout Europe. Angela Merkel is a criminal.

Long live the Poles, Czechs, Hungarians, Slovaks, and other Europeans that still believe in their countries and their people.

Sounds like your village is on it's way to being replaced by "refugees" within a decade or two.

 

[Campeador]

Looks like you've already chosen your future, multicultural flag.

 

[cozyco]

Care to mention the negatives?

Well when I should begin now mentioning my bad experiences with refugees, I should mention my bad experiences with white Europeans/North Americans too.

It is almost impossible to meet in a group of ppl. only thankful, respectful, fair, nice and open minded guys and girls.

Some bad experiences I ve had ONLY with refugees: Especially the ones from southern Africa don t know how to use our bathrooms. Broken sinks and toilets are common. They think you have to stand on them. Some others don t really see that its actuelly a privilege to stay in a safe country (well same with some German fuckheads). Last thing: Some are pretty arrogant. Sounds maybe a little bit disrespectful, but most of the immigrants expect too much like: Staying in a nice city, sweet appartment etc.

Thats my personal impression so far. But until now I had waaay worse experiences with other Germans than with refugees.

 

[californiagrown]

So you believe the vast majority of Arabs and Persians are evil, rabid dogs? Or is it all Muslims? Or must they be a combination of the two to qualify?

You have a strong dislike for organized religon, right? What does your moral conscience say we should do to help the innocent folks fleeing wars and famine? Or should we choose to not help?

You have a habit of misreading what I write.

Afghans, and Afghan men in particular, have a horrible culture based in Islamic sharia, and backwards tribal practices derived from sharia.

As a matter of course, Afghans routinely practice rape of children (especially young boys), something that is culturally acceptable. They also practice the most atrocious violence against women, again, culturally acceptable in Afghan culture.

Now, with all these men who practice this ugly culture "fleeing war and famine" into Europe, what leads you to believe that they will abandon the culture and religion that they come from?

The ones who practice these mainstays of Afghan culture, yes they are rabid dogs, waiting for their chance to get their hands on some defenseless European girl.

Kind of like the Pakistani rape gangs in the UK that target and rape 10-14 year old British girls in Rotherham, and now Rochdale, and who knows where else. Fucking disgusting people, from a disgusting culture.

You have a nasty habit of NOT reading what i write haha. Care to answer those very basic, very unbiased, very open questions i posed?

 

[ImNotARacist]

Germany: Migrants' Rape Epidemic

 

[Campeador]

You have a nasty habit of NOT reading what i write haha. Care to answer those very basic, very unbiased, very open questions i posed?

I've answered in full, the first part I don't need to, since I was clearly referring to Afghans. Yes, Afghan men in Afghanistan and migrant Afghans by and large are rabid dogs. I don't need to do any research for you, but if you were to look yourself, it may lift the cloud of political correctness just a bit.

In terms of people fleeing famine and war, set up camps and safezones, either within their own countries or a neighboring country, to house them until the war subsides, but they have to earn their keep through labor (set up low-paying, labor intensive jobs they can do and be competitive at).

That is the only acceptable solution. Importing people in mass from a hostile religion and culture is a horrible idea.

 

[Campeador]

Well when I should begin now mentioning my bad experiences with refugees, I should mention my bad experiences with white Europeans/North Americans too.

It is almost impossible to meet in a group of ppl. only thankful, respectful, fair, nice and open minded guys and girls.

Some bad experiences I ve had ONLY with refugees: Especially the ones from southern Africa don t know how to use our bathrooms. Broken sinks and toilets are common. They think you have to stand on them. Some others don t really see that its actuelly a privilege to stay in a safe country (well same with some German fuckheads). Last thing: Some are pretty arrogant. Sounds maybe a little bit disrespectful, but most of the immigrants expect too much like: Staying in a nice city, sweet appartment etc.

Thats my personal impression so far. But until now I had waaay worse experiences with other Germans than with refugees.

Germany: Migrants' Rape Epidemic

Care to address this?

I know German media censors all of this, but you've got the internet and a decent grasp of English so there's no excuse not to know.

Not to mention that is from months ago, and the problem has only gotten worse.

 

[saskskier]

I absolve you of your Nazi war guilt.

Are you serious? Who are you? Ha ha ha.

 

[ImNotARacist]

Inserting third world Muslims into a highclass Society such as France is a recipe for disaster......o wait.

 

[californiagrown]

I've answered in full, the first part I don't need to, since I was clearly referring to Afghans. Yes, Afghan men in Afghanistan and migrant Afghans by and large are rabid dogs. I don't need to do any research for you, but if you were to look yourself, it may lift the cloud of political correctness just a bit.

In terms of people fleeing famine and war, set up camps and safezones, either within their own countries or a neighboring country, to house them until the war subsides, but they have to earn their keep through labor (set up low-paying, labor intensive jobs they can do and be competitive at).

That is the only acceptable solution. Importing people in mass from a hostile religion and culture is a horrible idea.

So, you have no problem with the rest of the Muslim world? Somehow I doubt that. Which is why I would like to know your criteria for what is an acceptable Muslim and what isn't, and how you plan to tell the difference.

As for the refugee camps, who will pay for these camps? Who will provide the security? Who will provide the land?

I'm simply curious if you've thought further than "fuck Islam" haha.

 

[ImNotARacist]

So, you have no problem with the rest of the Muslim world? Nope. Somehow I doubt that. Your problem Which is why I would like to know your criteria for what is an acceptable Muslim and what isn't, and how you plan to tell the difference. Ask them how the feel about homosexuals.

As for the refugee camps, who will pay for these camps? Who will provide the security? Who will provide the land? Detroit:NeverForget

I'm simply curious if you've thought further than "fuck Islam" haha. I lived with Islam.

Suck it

 

[Campeador]

So, you have no problem with the rest of the Muslim world? Somehow I doubt that. Which is why I would like to know your criteria for what is an acceptable Muslim and what isn't, and how you plan to tell the difference.

As for the refugee camps, who will pay for these camps? Who will provide the security? Who will provide the land?

I'm simply curious if you've thought further than "fuck Islam" haha.

International organizations, and labor from the refugees themselves, should support the camps. The UN has set up "safe zones" in the past and can do so again.

I already answered that neighboring countries that are not at war should provide the land, but they need to be supported to that it's not a detrimental economic burden.

Security provided by the refugees themselves, organized into police units. Impose complete martial law, and swift, severe punishments that those who break the laws within the camp. If there's one thing all muslims understand, it's power.

I find Afghan culture particularly detestable, even in comparison to other Islam-based cultures.

The Muslims I support are ones like Zuhdi Jasser, and Turkey's first president, Mustafa Kemal Ataturk.

Ataturk:

1. Abolished the sultanate and the caliphate.

2. Traditional Islamic dress was mocked and discouraged, if not outright banned.

3. He banned forcing women to wear the hijab, which he considered "ridiculous". He also banned the hijab from all public buildings.

4. Banned the use of Arabic in mosque sermons throughout Turkey.

5. Abolished all Sharia councils in Turkey, no government laws required approval from clerics.

6. Abolished all Sharia courts, and immediately fired all Sharia judges.

7. Secularized all parts of the Turkish government, especially the military.

Ataturk is the only reason Turkey has prevented itself from becoming an Islamic hell for so long, but all the work he did to push back against the retrograde forces of Islam is being undone by the Islamists like Erdogan that have taken control. Things have been going from bad to worse in Turkey.

I like Muslims who consider Islam one of the least important parts of their lives, who whole-heartedly accept Western morality, and fight for equality and freedom, even against their fellow Muslims.

If they bring even the smallest bit of that Sharia Islam bullshit, let them rot in whatever shithole they're from, war and famine be damned.

 

[cozyco]

Germany: Migrants' Rape Epidemic

1.) Gatestone Inst.: Ambassador John R. Bolton, Chairman:

"Bolton is currently a senior fellow at the American Enterprise Institute (AEI),[6] senior advisor for Freedom Capital Investment Management,[7] a Fox News Channel commentator, and of counsel to the Washington, D.C. law firm Kirkland & Ellis.[8] He was a foreign policy adviser to 2012 presidential candidate Mitt Romney.[9] Bolton is also involved with a number of politically conservative think tanks and policy institutes, including the Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs (JINSA), the Institute of East-West Dynamics, the National Rifle Association, the U.S. Commission on International Religious Freedom, the Council for National Policy (CNP) and the Gatestone Institute,[10] where he serves as the organization Chairman."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_R._Bolton

2.) Board of Governors, Gatestone Europe, Chairman, Amir Taheri:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amir_Taheri#Controversies_and_fabrications
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amir_Taheri

Lol that link is bullsh*t. Cant take gatestone Inst. seriously haha with those members. You re welcome. Don't believe all the shit you read on the internet.

 

[Campeador]

Lol that link is bullsh*t. Cant take gatestone Inst. seriously haha with those members. You re welcome. Don't believe all the shit you read on the internet.

Say what you life about the Gatestone institute, but they're linking to all German newspapers and sources.

Are all those reports wrong?

 

[californiagrown]

Say what you life about the Gatestone institute, but they're linking to all German newspapers and sources.

Are all those reports wrong?

No, but when they cherry pick articles, like you do, it makes their reporting extremely biased and untrustworthy.

 

[Campeador]

No, but when they cherry pick articles, like you do, it makes their reporting extremely biased and untrustworthy.

As is the reporting from all those German sources, I'm sure.

Gatestone is just one example, this has been reported in so many places, including the NYT and other liberal papers, that if you haven't gotten it by now, you might just be an actual idiot.

 

[deleted5]

No, but when they cherry pick articles, like you do, it makes their reporting extremely biased and untrustworthy.

I find this very hypocritical especially coming from you being that you freaked out about rape on college campuses which are huge lie and definitely fabricated that 25% of girls in college are raped, but these real rapes are going on and you don't want to fix them?

 

[californiagrown]

As is the reporting from all those German sources, I'm sure.

Gatestone is just one example, this has been reported in so many places, including the NYT and other liberal papers, that if you haven't gotten it by now, you might just be an actual idiot.

There is no denying it happened. To what extent, who is to blame, and other contributing factors are issues that can be glossed over or not addressed, or addressed in a biased manner if the reporting party is biased itself.

I find this very hypocritical especially coming from you being that you freaked out about rape on college campuses which are huge lie and definitely fabricated that 25% of girls in college are raped, but these real rapes are going on and you don't want to fix them?

I think you have me confused with someone else.

Not to mention, 25% of German women aren't being raped by "Muslim rabid dogs". Or maybe you do believe that. Lol.

 

[californiagrown]

International organizations, and labor from the refugees themselves, should support the camps. The UN has set up "safe zones" in the past and can do so again.

I already answered that neighboring countries that are not at war should provide the land, but they need to be supported to that it's not a detrimental economic burden.

Security provided by the refugees themselves, organized into police units. Impose complete martial law, and swift, severe punishments that those who break the laws within the camp. If there's one thing all muslims understand, it's power.

I find Afghan culture particularly detestable, even in comparison to other Islam-based cultures.

The Muslims I support are ones like Zuhdi Jasser, and Turkey's first president, Mustafa Kemal Ataturk.

Ataturk:

1. Abolished the sultanate and the caliphate.

2. Traditional Islamic dress was mocked and discouraged, if not outright banned.

3. He banned forcing women to wear the hijab, which he considered "ridiculous". He also banned the hijab from all public buildings.

4. Banned the use of Arabic in mosque sermons throughout Turkey.

5. Abolished all Sharia councils in Turkey, no government laws required approval from clerics.

6. Abolished all Sharia courts, and immediately fired all Sharia judges.

7. Secularized all parts of the Turkish government, especially the military.

Ataturk is the only reason Turkey has prevented itself from becoming an Islamic hell for so long, but all the work he did to push back against the retrograde forces of Islam is being undone by the Islamists like Erdogan that have taken control. Things have been going from bad to worse in Turkey.

I like Muslims who consider Islam one of the least important parts of their lives, who whole-heartedly accept Western morality, and fight for equality and freedom, even against their fellow Muslims.

If they bring even the smallest bit of that Sharia Islam bullshit, let them rot in whatever shithole they're from, war and famine be damned.

Lol. Those refugee camps for Sudanese victims of the daefur conflict worked out great, huh? But this time irll be different for Syrian refugees, right?

You're like trump- ignore what actually goes on in the real world when proposing solutions, just make the solution as over the top and idealistic as you can lol.

So you're fine with allowing Muslims to enter the country if the renounce their religon. How very unamerican of you.

Curiously, how will you ensure they are fully against all aspects of sharia (which shares common ideologies with Christianity and Mormon)?

 

[deleted5]

I think you have me confused with someone else.

Not to mention, 25% of German women aren't being raped by "Muslim rabid dogs". Or maybe you do believe that. Lol.

That was 100% you, I never said 25% I just pointed out how hypocritical you are being. Rape is a serious issue whether it's at 1% or 25%

 

[californiagrown]

That was 100% you, I never said 25% I just pointed out how hypocritical you are being. Rape is a serious issue whether it's at 1% or 25%

What was 100% me? That I thought/think rape and sexual assault is a big issue on college campuses?

So you think 1% of the women in Germany have been raped by Muslim refugees?

 

[cozyco]

As is the reporting from all those German sources, I'm sure.

Gatestone is just one example, this has been reported in so many places, including the NYT and other liberal papers, that if you haven't gotten it by now, you might just be an actual idiot.

Yeah thanks.Please give my NYT, Zeit, NZZ, FAZ or Guardian articles!

Yes they just pick a quote, but don't even include the WHOLE quote. That's called misinformation and lies. End of story. I want serious articles, that show ppl. outside Germany BOTH sides!

As a person who isn't from Germany/Austria/Switzerland or doesn't follow regularly news debate, reads newspaper etc. their misinformation will work. But if you are even a little bit into it, you can clearly see that this is sh*t.

Some trustworthy websites (always be careful if it is an opinion-article or a objective one!):
http://www.nytimes.com/
http://www.theguardian.com/international
http://www.zeit.de/index
http://www.nzz.ch/
http://www.faz.net/
http://www.sueddeutsche.de/

You read non German newspaper and think you have THE overview about the refugee crisis, lol that would be the same when we Germans say we have THE overview about the problems in American slums, Hispanics....

You can find the best articles about refugee crisis on: Zeit.de or nzz.ch

 

[Campeador]

What was 100% me? That I thought/think rape and sexual assault is a big issue on college campuses?

So you think 1% of the women in Germany have been raped by Muslim refugees?

Get a grip, and stop putting words in other people's mouths.

 

[Campeador]

Yeah thanks.Please give my NYT, Zeit, NZZ, FAZ or Guardian articles!

Yes they just pick a quote, but don't even include the WHOLE quote. That's called misinformation and lies. End of story. I want serious articles, that show ppl. outside Germany BOTH sides!

As a person who isn't from Germany/Austria/Switzerland or doesn't follow regularly news debate, reads newspaper etc. their misinformation will work. But if you are even a little bit into it, you can clearly see that this is sh*t.

Some trustworthy websites (always be careful if it is an opinion-article or a objective one!):
http://www.nytimes.com/
http://www.theguardian.com/international
http://www.zeit.de/index
http://www.nzz.ch/
http://www.faz.net/
http://www.sueddeutsche.de/

You read non German newspaper and think you have THE overview about the refugee crisis, lol that would be the same when we Germans say we have THE overview about the problems in American slums, Hispanics....

You can find the best articles about refugee crisis on: Zeit.de or nzz.ch

If you just get your news from censored, pro-migrant news sources, it's not wonder you're so blind.

But since you asked for the New York Times (a left-wing publication by all accounts), here you go:
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/10/opinion/sunday/germany-on-the-brink.html

Some interesting parts:

"In Sweden, for instance, which like Germany has had an open door, 71 percent of all asylum applicants in 2015 were men. Among the mostly-late-teenage category of "unaccompanied minors," as Valerie Hudson points out in an important essay for Politico," the ratios were even more skewed: "11.3 boys for every one girl."

As Hudson notes, these trends have immediate implications for civil order — young men are, well, young men; societies with skewed sex ratios tend to be unstable; and many of these men carry assumptions about women's roles that are diametrically opposed to the values of contemporary Europe.

In the German case the important number here isn't the country's total population, currently 82 million. It's the twentysomething population, which was less than 10 million in 2013 (and of course already included many immigrants). In that cohort and every cohort afterward, the current influx could have a transformative effect.

But it could also double or treble this migration's demographic impact, pushing Germany toward a possible future in which half the under-40 population would consist of Middle Eastern and North African immigrants and their children.

If you believe that an aging, secularized, heretofore-mostly-homogeneous society is likely to peacefully absorb a migration of that size and scale of cultural difference, then you have a bright future as a spokesman for the current German government.

You're also a fool."

 

[californiagrown]

Get a grip, and stop putting words in other people's mouths.

I didn't. I asked a question.

On the otherhand, I had words put in my mouth but you had no problem with it because it fit your bias.

Where is your outrage about that?

 

[Campeador]

I didn't. I asked a question.

On the otherhand, I had words put in my mouth but you had no problem with it because it fit your bias.

Where is your outrage about that?

Your questions are absurd, and are a waste of time to even respond to.

"So you think 1% of the women in Germany have been raped by Muslim refugees?"

What kind of dumb ass question is that? You're so worried about bias, yet it clouds your vision so much you cannot even read straight. His point was that rape, at any percentage, is a serious deal, especially when members of the population committing the rapes and sexual assaults are being imported en masse.

Instead of addressing that point, you fire back with an idiotic question.

How about you cut the crap, and put in writing what you actually believe, bias and all. Don't pussyfoot around with your redundant dead-end questions.

 

[californiagrown]

Your questions are absurd, and are a waste of time to even respond to.

"So you think 1% of the women in Germany have been raped by Muslim refugees?"

What kind of dumb ass question is that? You're so worried about bias, yet it clouds your vision so much you cannot even read straight. His point was that rape, at any percentage, is a serious deal, especially when members of the population committing the rapes and sexual assaults are being imported en masse.

Instead of addressing that point, you fire back with an idiotic question.

How about you cut the crap, and put in writing what you actually believe, bias and all. Don't pussyfoot around with your redundant dead-end questions.

Man you sure get angry when attention is paid to someone else. You obviously missed a few points in our discussion haha.

In any case, bump this thread later in the weekend when I have the time and I'll put together my feelings on the subject

And unlike you, I won't personally attack and denegrate other members.

 

[deleted5]

What was 100% me? That I thought/think rape and sexual assault is a big issue on college campuses?

So you think 1% of the women in Germany have been raped by Muslim refugees?

No that 25% of woman in college are. I lost track of this thread and have no idea what's going on. A lot of countrys that are migrating promote the oppression and ownership of woman.

What's the point your trying to make, that people in the middle east don't oppress woman?

 

[californiagrown]

No that 25% of woman in college are. I lost track of this thread and have no idea what's going on. A lot of countrys that are migrating promote the oppression and ownership of woman.

What's the point your trying to make, that people in the middle east don't oppress woman?

I was responding to your laughable implication that the problem of rape/sexual assault is statistically similar in colleges vs syrian refugees unto German women.

Idk why you decided to go down that path of comparison but it sure was dumb.

 

[deleted5]

I was responding to your laughable implication that the problem of rape/sexual assault is statistically similar in colleges vs syrian refugees unto German women.

Idk why you decided to go down that path of comparison but it sure was dumb.

At what point did I say they are comparable. I said a false belief you also had on sexual assault in the country you live in, making it hypocritical not comparable.

 

[californiagrown]

At what point did I say they are comparable. I said a false belief you also had on sexual assault in the country you live in, making it hypocritical not comparable.

Do you think the percentage of women being raped/sexually assaulted is higher at american universities, or in germany by muslim refugees? Simple question.

Which do you consider a larger rape/assault problem?

Well, call me hypocritical if you think the muslim refugee rapes/assaults in germany are the bigger issue. If not, please take your hands away from the keyboard, face the wall, and think about what you have done.

 

[Hackster]

Will try to stay away from a pissing contest about different religions or a general Muslim bashing so popular these days here but turn back to the topic since I feel it goes deeper than that. It is mainly about way too many at a time. Here I copy and paste what I collected from various sources over the course of time so sorry up front for the overly long read.

About 90% of recent 1.1 million migrants into Germany are Muslim and originate from the Middle East as far as Pakistan as well as North and East Africa with most of their home countries being either clerical authocraties, dictatorial regimes or civil war torn zones with very limited freedom of press and speach. They have a dominantly Islamic population and Islam itself in it's numerous shapings is widely abused as an ideology. Minor or major conflicts among ethnic or tribal groups and clans along with Sharia as the applied legal system are prevailing in some of these areas, even across national borders.

Independent from any religious aspects many people grow up under widely spread machoism which - depending on individual intellect and education - defines an intolerant attitude towards the female gender, often along with lacking empathy in general. While within secular western societies women significantly contribute to the domestic gross product they are facing a hard time when rebelling against arbitrariness of and suppression by husbands they are often forced into marriages with and their families.

Since nearly all of the migrants crossed the border into Germany from safe countries surround NONE is a refugee legally entitled for asylum in Germany according to the Dublin treaty - which Chancellor Merkel unilaterally suspended by violating German constitution, bypassing parliament and EU agreements in place. This torpedoed any coordinated EU effort and entirely isolated her country within Europe.

Institutions were hopelessly overwhelmed with the sheer masses pouring into the country, often only private charity of the native population helped easing up in many situations. Hospital staffs were far overstretched with refugees flooding them in search for – free - medical treatment for diseases which had been extinguished there a long time ago. On top of it male (muslim) patients often refused treatment by female staff, even in some cases resulting in attacks on latter.

Migrant structure based on various sources such as BKA (FBI counterpart) and others often overlooked in the media or underreported: only about 10% had been screened upon entrance, over 300000 disappeared within the country with unknown whereabouts, over 60% are illiterate according to western standards and thus hardly ever integrateable, let alone employable. From past experience with immigrant population at least 10% will end up either turning into criminals here or continuing their criminal career from back home. Only a minority is truly Syrian and a high percentage came in with fake or even without IDs, meaning they are not deportable and will stay permanently.

The crucial point: so far an estimated 70% of the over a million migrants have been males between 18 and 40 years of age. In any given society no matter of which political or religious mainstream orientation this is the group who brings along most of all severe crime – which certainly includes sex crimes. While the majority stayed peace- and respectful so far any estimated minority of said over 10% or more already is enough to stirr the pot big time by disrespecting or even despising the host society, legal system, authorities, law enforcement and to some of them women of other ethnicity being nothing but fair game. Mobile police task forces had daily missions in refugee camps to crack down on violence, riots and - sexual assaults on refugee women and girls.

Contrary to official statements crimes of all kind involving recently arrived migrants have been sharply rising outside of refugee camps. Same time law enforcement has become virtually non-existent due to overstretched police squads unable to cope with the sheer amount of offenders and perpetrators adding to the crime scene already existing before. Cops trying to interphere and crack down are often hopelessly outnumbered by criminal gangs.

Many incidents involving immigrants go unreported or get covered up by police, authorities and mainstream media in order not to fuel anti-migrant sentiments. This in return lead to the absurd situation that social media often receive more credibility than classic journalism whereas potential perpetrators might be further encouraged. Official reports which often reveal a stunning amount of incompetence are widely mistrusted now. The Cologne, Hamburg and Stuttgart incident is one of many examples where attempts to sweep things under the carpet fell apart due to first and second hand reports on Facebook, Twitter and foreign internet media. After the affair escalated some police officers on duty came out and contradicted press released which glossed the incidents by claiming sexual molestion (and rape) being mainly a distraction maneuver for pickpocketing.

There had been arrests of some like 18 perpetrators, majority of them with documents identifying them as 'Syrians', others North African. They tested the waters and found law enforcement surrendering on the scale of assault and number of perpetrators.There are fears that this was just a warm up for more like this to come soon. Carnival season is around the corner.

There can be no doubt that the migrat crisis will ineviteably change the country to the worse since integration is prone to fail for many of them arriving in 2015 or after. This means Germany will follow suit or even surpass Sweden and France. Without drastic counter measures the immigration will continue and when counting in potential reunifications - legal or not - another 8-10 million migrants are expected to arrive in Germany by end of 2020 alone. If the composition of those coming in does not change then life for the ethnic female population will likely deteriorate and society is going to tear apart about this, rising overall crime, cultural clashes as well as the unbearable financial strain.

 

[californiagrown]

Will try to stay away from a pissing contest about different religions or a general Muslim bashing so popular these days here but turn back to the topic since I feel it goes deeper than that. It is mainly about way too many at a time. Here I copy and paste what I collected from various sources over the course of time so sorry up front for the overly long read.

About 90% of recent 1.1 million migrants into Germany are Muslim and originate from the Middle East as far as Pakistan as well as North and East Africa with most of their home countries being either clerical authocraties, dictatorial regimes or civil war torn zones with very limited freedom of press and speach. They have a dominantly Islamic population and Islam itself in it's numerous shapings is widely abused as an ideology. Minor or major conflicts among ethnic or tribal groups and clans along with Sharia as the applied legal system are prevailing in some of these areas, even across national borders.

Independent from any religious aspects many people grow up under widely spread machoism which - depending on individual intellect and education - defines an intolerant attitude towards the female gender, often along with lacking empathy in general. While within secular western societies women significantly contribute to the domestic gross product they are facing a hard time when rebelling against arbitrariness of and suppression by husbands they are often forced into marriages with and their families.

Since nearly all of the migrants crossed the border into Germany from safe countries surround NONE is a refugee legally entitled for asylum in Germany according to the Dublin treaty - which Chancellor Merkel unilaterally suspended by violating German constitution, bypassing parliament and EU agreements in place. This torpedoed any coordinated EU effort and entirely isolated her country within Europe.

Institutions were hopelessly overwhelmed with the sheer masses pouring into the country, often only private charity of the native population helped easing up in many situations. Hospital staffs were far overstretched with refugees flooding them in search for – free - medical treatment for diseases which had been extinguished there a long time ago. On top of it male (muslim) patients often refused treatment by female staff, even in some cases resulting in attacks on latter.

Migrant structure based on various sources such as BKA (FBI counterpart) and others often overlooked in the media or underreported: only about 10% had been screened upon entrance, over 300000 disappeared within the country with unknown whereabouts, over 60% are illiterate according to western standards and thus hardly ever integrateable, let alone employable. From past experience with immigrant population at least 10% will end up either turning into criminals here or continuing their criminal career from back home. Only a minority is truly Syrian and a high percentage came in with fake or even without IDs, meaning they are not deportable and will stay permanently.

The crucial point: so far an estimated 70% of the over a million migrants have been males between 18 and 40 years of age. In any given society no matter of which political or religious mainstream orientation this is the group who brings along most of all severe crime – which certainly includes sex crimes. While the majority stayed peace- and respectful so far any estimated minority of said over 10% or more already is enough to stirr the pot big time by disrespecting or even despising the host society, legal system, authorities, law enforcement and to some of them women of other ethnicity being nothing but fair game. Mobile police task forces had daily missions in refugee camps to crack down on violence, riots and - sexual assaults on refugee women and girls.

Contrary to official statements crimes of all kind involving recently arrived migrants have been sharply rising outside of refugee camps. Same time law enforcement has become virtually non-existent due to overstretched police squads unable to cope with the sheer amount of offenders and perpetrators adding to the crime scene already existing before. Cops trying to interphere and crack down are often hopelessly outnumbered by criminal gangs.

Many incidents involving immigrants go unreported or get covered up by police, authorities and mainstream media in order not to fuel anti-migrant sentiments. This in return lead to the absurd situation that social media often receive more credibility than classic journalism whereas potential perpetrators might be further encouraged. Official reports which often reveal a stunning amount of incompetence are widely mistrusted now. The Cologne, Hamburg and Stuttgart incident is one of many examples where attempts to sweep things under the carpet fell apart due to first and second hand reports on Facebook, Twitter and foreign internet media. After the affair escalated some police officers on duty came out and contradicted press released which glossed the incidents by claiming sexual molestion (and rape) being mainly a distraction maneuver for pickpocketing.

There had been arrests of some like 18 perpetrators, majority of them with documents identifying them as 'Syrians', others North African. They tested the waters and found law enforcement surrendering on the scale of assault and number of perpetrators.There are fears that this was just a warm up for more like this to come soon. Carnival season is around the corner.

There can be no doubt that the migrat crisis will ineviteably change the country to the worse since integration is prone to fail for many of them arriving in 2015 or after. This means Germany will follow suit or even surpass Sweden and France. Without drastic counter measures the immigration will continue and when counting in potential reunifications - legal or not - another 8-10 million migrants are expected to arrive in Germany by end of 2020 alone. If the composition of those coming in does not change then life for the ethnic female population will likely deteriorate and society is going to tear apart about this, rising overall crime, cultural clashes as well as the unbearable financial strain.

Where did you pull this blatant opinion piece from? Because the criminal percentage is an opinion based on "personal experience" lol and a very quick fact check of the demographic makeup of the refugee population proves it false.

Ever thought about looking at facts instead of strictly editorials?

 

[deleted5]

Do you think the percentage of women being raped/sexually assaulted is higher at american universities, or in germany by muslim refugees? Simple question.

Which do you consider a larger rape/assault problem?

Well, call me hypocritical if you think the muslim refugee rapes/assaults in germany are the bigger issue. If not, please take your hands away from the keyboard, face the wall, and think about what you have done.

Yes I think some of these ideologies that some imagraints will bring. will bring opression and issues for women today and in the future. Mich more than woman who have to deal with going through a college education.

 

[ImNotARacist]

Lol you guys really don't know how mass media works do you?

 

[Campeador]

Where did you pull this blatant opinion piece from? Because the criminal percentage is an opinion based on "personal experience" lol and a very quick fact check of the demographic makeup of the refugee population proves it false.

Ever thought about looking at facts instead of strictly editorials?

So which parts are inaccurate exactly, in your opinion?

I'm guessing that you cannot successfully argue against any of those points.

 

[californiagrown]

Because the criminal percentage is an opinion based on "personal experience" lol and a very quick fact check of the demographic makeup of the refugee population proves it false.

^^^^^^^ lol. Its not my opinion that proves it false, its facts.

So which parts are inaccurate exactly, in your opinion?

I'm guessing that you cannot successfully argue against any of those points.

 

[californiagrown]

Rape is a serious issue whether it's at 1% or 25%

Yes I think some of these ideologies that some imagraints will bring. will bring opression and issues for women today and in the future. Mich more than woman who have to deal with going through a college education.

but i thought that all rape is serious? so why are you calling me hypocritical for caring about current rape that is happening in our country?

Or do you want me to be like you, and ignore current rapes happening in our country?... because all rapes are not a serious issue. Oh wait, that would make me a hypocrite, huh?

Banning muslim refugees from immigrating is about as intelligent a solution as banning males from college.

 

[deleted5]

but i thought that all rape is serious? so why are you calling me hypocritical for caring about current rape that is happening in our country?

Or do you want me to be like you, and ignore current rapes happening in our country?... because all rapes are not a serious issue. Oh wait, that would make me a hypocrite, huh?

Banning muslim refugees from immigrating is about as intelligent a solution as banning males from college.

In mt first post I'm saying you called him out for posting a false biased rape statistic news source. where you did the same exact thing in a different thread. Nothing about banning people or ignoring rape.

 

[californiagrown]

In mt first post I'm saying you called him out for posting a false biased rape statistic news source. where you did the same exact thing in a different thread. Nothing about banning people or ignoring rape.

I never posted a false or biased rape statistic. Idk where you keep getting this idea from.

Is that your tactic: get beat with logic and rational thought, then accuse me of something totally false and random? Lol.

 

[ImNotARacist]

I never posted a false or biased rape statistic. Idk where you keep getting this idea from.

Is that your tactic: get beat with logic and rational thought, then accuse me of something totally false and random? Lol.

Go join Isil

 

[deleted5]

I never posted a false or biased rape statistic. Idk where you keep getting this idea from.

Is that your tactic: get beat with logic and rational thought, then accuse me of something totally false and random? Lol.

It's not false and I don't care anymore but if you really want me to go back to that woman's inequality thread you confuse sexual assault and rape saying one in four women have to go through the traumatic experience in college of being raped, because you didn't know the difference. I then had to explain to you that touching a girls boob while drunk doesn't qualify as rape and it's not 25% of girls that get forcibly held down and raped.

But again that is absolutely nothing to do with this thread and i dont know why we are fighting. I was just pointing out one incident where you were being hypocritical. I'm done

 

[californiagrown]

It's not false and I don't care anymore but if you really want me to go back to that woman's inequality thread you confuse sexual assault and rape saying one in four women have to go through the traumatic experience in college of being raped, because you didn't know the difference. I then had to explain to you that touching a girls boob while drunk doesn't qualify as rape and it's not 25% of girls that get forcibly held down and raped.

But again that is absolutely nothing to do with this thread and i dont know why we are fighting. I was just pointing out one incident where you were being hypocritical. I'm done

You're right that subject has nothing to do with this thread, which i s why do was asking why you brought it up. Lol.

Also, you've said you were "done" a few times, but we are all still waiting for you to be true to your word

 

[californiagrown]

Go join Isil

Why's that?

 

[ImNotARacist]

Why's that?

The people you are defending praised Isis in the beginning. they praised them in the same way we praised the founding fathers. Those that don't support Isis believe we created the problem. That's a lose lose situation. So half of Muslims believe we are the problem and the other half believe we are the problem.

A Good hearted Muslim will still believe that we must be changed, not them.

All other religions have evolved. There is no significant evolution within Islam. continuing to identify with the religion that is the caused of your suffering is insane. It is MUSLIM leaders that are purposely causing the refugee crisis.

The Refugee crisis is not an accident, it is an agenda, and you are too naive to see that.

 

[californiagrown]

The people you are defending praised Isis in the beginning. they praised them in the same way we praised the founding fathers. Those that don't support Isis believe we created the problem. That's a lose lose situation. So half of Muslims believe we are the problem and the other half believe we are the problem.

A Good hearted Muslim will still believe that we must be changed, not them.

All other religions have evolved. There is no significant evolution within Islam. continuing to identify with the religion that is the caused of your suffering is insane. It is MUSLIM leaders that are purposely causing the refugee crisis.

The Refugee crisis is not an accident, it is an agenda, and you are too naive to see that.

So, because I A) am not a Muslim, and B) don't think it is fair to blindly mass punish the majority for the actions of the minority, I should join ISIS?

Totally makes sense. I absolutely embody the beliefs of their movement. Yup. You're a goddamn genius Gump!

 

[Hackster]

Where did you pull this blatant opinion piece from? Because the criminal percentage is an opinion based on "personal experience" lol and a very quick fact check of the demographic makeup of the refugee population proves it false.

Ever thought about looking at facts instead of strictly editorials?

This 'blatant opinion piece' of criminal percentage is a published figure by the BKA (FBI equivalent) referring to immigrants into GERMANY from same regions and cultural heritage as the vast majority of current migrants country. You can google it up, this has nothing to do with anyone's 'personal experience' or 'personal opinion'.

So far you were nothing but just asserting others not sharing your own personal OPINION to be wrong and/or ignorant. While sitting 8000 miles away from the place of incidents you claim posession of 'facts' to prove BKA's historical stats wrong. I assume you must have access to insider knowledge then which none here has in case this is not another brain fart. Therefore I kindly ask you to share this masterpiece of a research with all of us and I certainly stand corrected on this one. Even better go public with this since catching the federal police in Germany off guard on this would be a scandal on it's own.

 

[californiagrown]

From past experience with immigrant population at least 10% will end up either turning into criminals here or continuing their criminal career from back home.

The crucial point: so far an estimated 70% of the over a million migrants have been males between 18 and 40 years of age.

You can google it up, this has nothing to do with anyone's 'personal experience'

See above, lol. The second stat "70% of males..." is easily fact checked and found to be incorrect.

Any more questions champ?

 

[Hackster]

See above, lol. The second stat "70% of males..." is easily fact checked and found to be incorrect.

Any more questions champ?

You got not a single piece evidence for response, just another useless claim. So I won't waste further time on you.

 

[californiagrown]

You got not a single piece evidence for response, just another useless claim. So I won't waste further time on you.

haha i caught you in two blatant lies, but im the one who has the problem providing evidence. sure buddy.