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Schmuck went to Jossi and asked him to write an article about his faith to give some personal insight into it. He wasn't asked to write an article to try and convert people to Christianity. Isn't Schmuck the editor? Therefor he can publish whatever he likes, it's just trying to give different perspectives on different things. I really can't see what you're problem is with it, it just seems that you are intolerable towards Christianity.
(Excuse all bad grammar, wrote this really quickly)
(Excuse all bad grammar, wrote this really quickly)
KapitolPhoto
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Haha, glad you appreciated the Hawking remark.
My whole response to your original post stands on the grounds that I think you're wrong to presume what's good editorial content for the 'zine. As said before, this is obviously a very integral part of Jossi's life and as such, has just as much business on the "pages" of any ski mag as what's on his iPod or his next movie segment. I think skiing encompasses so much more than gear guides, pictures and ads. I think any serious journalist would agree.
As far as the Atheism & Religion debate? Sure, it's easy for me to fall on the argument that your atheist and disinterested. That's fine, more power to you. You, too, could have just have easily said "If Jossi wants to believe in Jesus, that's cool, do your thing" from the get go. But as your argument goes, it's bordering on offensive. While I won't disagree with you on the fallibility of institutions, calling people's beliefs, which very well maybe extremely important to their identity, a "business model" is really uncalled for and narrow minded, and to add to your last point, I think Jossi talking about his Faith (not Religion) and Evangelizing are two completely different things.
My whole response to your original post stands on the grounds that I think you're wrong to presume what's good editorial content for the 'zine. As said before, this is obviously a very integral part of Jossi's life and as such, has just as much business on the "pages" of any ski mag as what's on his iPod or his next movie segment. I think skiing encompasses so much more than gear guides, pictures and ads. I think any serious journalist would agree.
As far as the Atheism & Religion debate? Sure, it's easy for me to fall on the argument that your atheist and disinterested. That's fine, more power to you. You, too, could have just have easily said "If Jossi wants to believe in Jesus, that's cool, do your thing" from the get go. But as your argument goes, it's bordering on offensive. While I won't disagree with you on the fallibility of institutions, calling people's beliefs, which very well maybe extremely important to their identity, a "business model" is really uncalled for and narrow minded, and to add to your last point, I think Jossi talking about his Faith (not Religion) and Evangelizing are two completely different things.
I tolerate an individuals right to choose/practice their own religion, I distrust most religious institutions (explained above), and I actively object to religious propaganda, especially when it is veiled. If you consider each of those statements carefully, you will have an easier time understanding where I am coming from because I can't debate this all day.
I have read everything you have said. You're just giving off this moral high / You're opinion is the only one that matters persona. Sure I'm the same as you, objecting religious propaganda blah blah all that stuff but this is by no means that. It's just someone explaining their faith. You don't have to like it or agree with it, just get over it that it's not your type of thing.
Okay and I apologize for my first statement, that was a bit harsh.
Okay and I apologize for my first statement, that was a bit harsh.
Okay, last post on this subject because it is party time and I need to go sin so that Jesus died for something.
Religion as part of life so it should be displayed in mag argument- Refer to previous post.
Second part- I said that faith and afterlife were part of the business model of organized institutions, not individuals. I think the argument that, when you look closely, most churches resemble businesses is fairly easy to accept, so I'm not sure that this is that controversial because undoubtedly the "truths" they preach are what the Church is based upon. So, call it cynical, but even religious fanatics can accept this when they look at it objectively. Their qualms are merely with the suggestion that their way may not be the only way. Accepting these ideas as truths, however, is not a business plan at the individual level as ones moral code is in no way a business plan.
As for your last sentence, my position is unchanged and stated in previous posts. We just disagree, but try to see it my way and I'll do my best to see it yours.
I'm out.
Religion as part of life so it should be displayed in mag argument- Refer to previous post.
Second part- I said that faith and afterlife were part of the business model of organized institutions, not individuals. I think the argument that, when you look closely, most churches resemble businesses is fairly easy to accept, so I'm not sure that this is that controversial because undoubtedly the "truths" they preach are what the Church is based upon. So, call it cynical, but even religious fanatics can accept this when they look at it objectively. Their qualms are merely with the suggestion that their way may not be the only way. Accepting these ideas as truths, however, is not a business plan at the individual level as ones moral code is in no way a business plan.
As for your last sentence, my position is unchanged and stated in previous posts. We just disagree, but try to see it my way and I'll do my best to see it yours.
I'm out.
Normally I would write a 20,000 word post to debate this issue, but I'm not going to because this argument is silly.
People get tired of reading the same shit over and over. We did something different. Different is good, even if its racy.
I don't care in the slightest if it should/shouldn't be in there. We want to get to know the athletes in a deeper fashion than regular, and Jossi is a religious dude, thusly making it a relevant fact.
People get tired of reading the same shit over and over. We did something different. Different is good, even if its racy.
I don't care in the slightest if it should/shouldn't be in there. We want to get to know the athletes in a deeper fashion than regular, and Jossi is a religious dude, thusly making it a relevant fact.
LeoSpaceman
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that ian compton guy's life sounds real hard
t_rob
Active member
Fuck you Schmuck, there was no mention of which gangster rapper was best in any of those pro's articles. That is all that matters. Who care's about anything else.
But really, Jossi and Dorey were great, the whole anti-superficial campaign was well done, i wish it had some protogs or writers telling their own story instead of someone elses like they usually do.
But really, Jossi and Dorey were great, the whole anti-superficial campaign was well done, i wish it had some protogs or writers telling their own story instead of someone elses like they usually do.