have you guys been giving your skis stone grinds since you were 11 as well. hand turns are time consuming as well as tedious. they invented tuning machines for a reason, they are very very helpful. depending on what make and type of tuning machine it is $3000 is nothing. if you go into ultimate in banff they invested $220,000 in the machine in the window. for 3 grand your probally going to get yourself a shitty old reichman belt grinder but at least its better then nothing