Minneapolis is on fire right now....

Here's a question I want to pose- In the past, some of the largest changes in society and policy in the U.S. have been a result of violence. At what point is it necessary for a physical response (not looting) to prevent further injustice and infringement of rights in the united states. Where is the line drawn?

If the past 10 years have shown anything its that protests and voting do not create the wanted results. Billionaires still don't pay taxes, cops still act like an occupying military, and more and more of our freedoms get taken away every year. With the average U.S. citizen paying the price. As someone who has seen first hand what a physical response to someone believing their rights are infringed upon looks like I am doing everything BUT advocating for it.

Just interested to hear what our weird little community thinks
 
14146450:Lonely said:
Population size, and the difference in population sizes is the one of the most core ideas of statistics. Stick to being a constitution hating commie

You have to be trolling.

Relative sizes of the white population and black population does not affect relative rates of interracial crime. I already explained why but you ignored it so I won't bother trying again. The population size you're referring to (the entire US population) is enormous and statistically significant to a tiny margin of error, so I'm not sure how you think that's relevant.

Honestly, at this point I'm starting to suspect you're a conservative that's pretending to be liberal just so that you can make a show of having liberal ideas torn apart.
 
14146458:Lonely said:
Here's a question I want to pose- In the past, some of the largest changes in society and policy in the U.S. have been a result of violence. At what point is it necessary for a physical response (not looting) to prevent further injustice and infringement of rights in the united states. Where is the line drawn?

If the past 10 years have shown anything its that protests and voting do not create the wanted results. Billionaires still don't pay taxes, cops still act like an occupying military, and more and more of our freedoms get taken away every year. With the average U.S. citizen paying the price. As someone who has seen first hand what a physical response to someone believing their rights are infringed upon looks like I am doing everything BUT advocating for it.

Just interested to hear what our weird little community thinks

I think the line is when the upward mobility of a group of people is supressed. One thing that makes this country great is that in theory anyone can make anything out of themselves. This is the great strength of free market economics. One of the main roles of governmwnt should be to protect anyones about to grow whether is be economically, socially, or anything else. Once that ability is lost there is no hope. Kids born poor remain poor, creating generational poverty. Class systems suck, especially if impossed by the government.
 
14146470:r00kie said:
I think the line is when the upward mobility of a group of people is supressed. One thing that makes this country great is that in theory anyone can make anything out of themselves. This is the great strength of free market economics. One of the main roles of governmwnt should be to protect anyones about to grow whether is be economically, socially, or anything else. Once that ability is lost there is no hope. Kids born poor remain poor, creating generational poverty. Class systems suck, especially if impossed by the government.

Interesting take that I haven't heard before.

How close do you think we are to that point?

**This post was edited on Jun 1st 2020 at 11:28:01pm
 
14146472:Lonely said:
Interesting take that I haven't heard before.

How close do you think we are to that point?

**This post was edited on Jun 1st 2020 at 11:28:01pm

Regarding current events, I think the country as a whole is pretty far from it yet, although there is certainly room for improvement. Its clear that there are still some folks would like take upward mobility away from poc. Really sad that some of these people wear a uniform. Andrew Yang said something in a debate awhile ago about how cannot legislate racism away as it is an issue of individuals hearts and minds which I totally agree with. No matter what laws are passed there will still be racists. Thats why I keep advocating for peaceful protests and dialogue on race as it deals with the heart issue.
 
14146442:r00kie said:
Peacefully protest, stand alongside those whi are affected by prejudice, make your voice heard. Better yet, have some real life conversations with people about the issue instead of trolling the internet. But rioting only incentivizes violence from law enforcement and creates more division.

I'm fine peacefully protesting but when you get jabbed in the stomach for it and then hit with a baton while running away, I will not be peaceful any longer. The fact that they were also press and not protestors, infuriates me even more. Would you get punched in the stomach and just take it?

https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/guvaxe/police_attack_protestors_and_press_in_washington/
 
14146481:CLQ said:
I'm fine peacefully protesting but when you get jabbed in the stomach for it and then hit with a baton while running away, I will not be peaceful any longer. The fact that they were also press and not protestors, infuriates me even more. Would you get punched in the stomach and just take it?

https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/guvaxe/police_attack_protestors_and_press_in_washington/

Peaceful protesters being assulted is very messed up. I would suport anyone defending themselves against an officer doing such things. But lighting things on fire, smashing windows, spraying graffiti, looting businesses is not a form of self-defence.

**This post was edited on Jun 1st 2020 at 11:46:16pm
 
14146470:r00kie said:
I think the line is when the upward mobility of a group of people is supressed. One thing that makes this country great is that in theory anyone can make anything out of themselves. This is the great strength of free market economics. One of the main roles of governmwnt should be to protect anyones about to grow whether is be economically, socially, or anything else. Once that ability is lost there is no hope. Kids born poor remain poor, creating generational poverty. Class systems suck, especially if impossed by the government.

Kids born poor remain poor because they inherited bad traits from their poor parents. Why would you expect the offspring of a poor person to be equally likely to succeed as the offspring of a wealthy person? Usually, that wealthy person acquired wealth because they were intelligent or gifted in some other way. If true, you'd then expect their offspring would be more likely to succeed as well because they inherit the same traits that made their parents successful. Intelligence, charisma, work ethic, strength, speed, looks, etc. All these things factor into how successful you are in life, and they're all to some extent inherited genetically from your ancestors.

We already have a socialist education system in the United States. Any kid can get a full k-12 education regardless of their parents' income. There is no societal barrier preventing poor kids from succeeding in life. Any kid can work their way into a high-income career by doing all their homework during high school, attending their flagship state university, majoring in something useful, and completing their degree with a good GPA. There is nothing stopping poor kids from being successful but themselves. This is proven by the countless poor kids who have worked their way into success. Jeff Bezos, for example, was the son of a teenage mom and a deadbeat dad. He's now the richest man in the world.
 
14146481:CLQ said:
I'm fine peacefully protesting but when you get jabbed in the stomach for it and then hit with a baton while running away, I will not be peaceful any longer. The fact that they were also press and not protestors, infuriates me even more. Would you get punched in the stomach and just take it?

https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/guvaxe/police_attack_protestors_and_press_in_washington/

Oh no they got hit by a baton. There’s a video of a police officer getting ran over by a car right now. Oh no not the tear gas they scream “police brutality” as citizens start killing cops. You are a moron bro, not all cops are bad. The nations burning to the ground right now because criminals are fighting back against cops. Because the cops try to enforce rules. One bad cop kills someone and 10 fine cops get murdered. Yet you don’t give a fuck about the cops who died in the line of duty protecting you from ruthless criminals. Fuck off

https://twitter.com/breaking911/status/1267690118833483776?s=21



**This post was edited on Jun 2nd 2020 at 1:49:23am
 
After this week of watching these savages destroy cities I’ll say it with pride. I BACK THE BLUE. Thank the police for keeping your city from burning to ash from these monsters.

BLUE LIVES MATTER

**This post was edited on Jun 2nd 2020 at 12:40:14am
 
14146491:Scaredwhiteboy said:
Kids born poor remain poor because they inherited bad traits from their poor parents. Why would you expect the offspring of a poor person to be equally likely to succeed as the offspring of a wealthy person? Usually, that wealthy person acquired wealth because they were intelligent or gifted in some other way. If true, you'd then expect their offspring would be more likely to succeed as well because they inherit the same traits that made their parents successful. Intelligence, charisma, work ethic, strength, speed, looks, etc. All these things factor into how successful you are in life, and they're all to some extent inherited genetically from your ancestors.

We already have a socialist education system in the United States. Any kid can get a full k-12 education regardless of their parents' income. There is no societal barrier preventing poor kids from succeeding in life. Any kid can work their way into a high-income career by doing all their homework during high school, attending their flagship state university, majoring in something useful, and completing their degree with a good GPA. There is nothing stopping poor kids from being successful but themselves. This is proven by the countless poor kids who have worked their way into success. Jeff Bezos, for example, was the son of a teenage mom and a deadbeat dad. He's now the richest man in the world.

Yeah everyone's equal and people need to stop being lazy and pull themselves up by their bootstraps right?

Here's an example of somebody that wasn't wealthy and now is crushing see?

This thread blows.
 
14146436:Charlie_Kelly said:
I agree, wish it was a little more akin to the books. They took some liberties (like the white orc) to drive the plot but overall I’d have preferred it was stylized like the original trilogy. Plus the side plot with Legolas was fucking pointless. I’d compare it to the Star Wars prequels, just didn’t live up to the originals.

Yeah, the legolas thing was dumb. A few years ago I thought maybe there was going to be a miniseries made of The Silmarillion. That would've been awesome, but I think it's too epic in scope to make possible. Who knows if there would even be much interest in it. I love The Silmarillion, but I know several others who thought it was boring.
 
14146491:Scaredwhiteboy said:
Kids born poor remain poor because they inherited bad traits from their poor parents. Why would you expect the offspring of a poor person to be equally likely to succeed as the offspring of a wealthy person? Usually, that wealthy person acquired wealth because they were intelligent or gifted in some other way. If true, you'd then expect their offspring would be more likely to succeed as well because they inherit the same traits that made their parents successful. Intelligence, charisma, work ethic, strength, speed, looks, etc. All these things factor into how successful you are in life, and they're all to some extent inherited genetically from your ancestors.

We already have a socialist education system in the United States. Any kid can get a full k-12 education regardless of their parents' income. There is no societal barrier preventing poor kids from succeeding in life. Any kid can work their way into a high-income career by doing all their homework during high school, attending their flagship state university, majoring in something useful, and completing their degree with a good GPA. There is nothing stopping poor kids from being successful but themselves. This is proven by the countless poor kids who have worked their way into success. Jeff Bezos, for example, was the son of a teenage mom and a deadbeat dad. He's now the richest man in the world.

I think yku have misinterpreted the point. Lonely asked when violence against the government is necessary. I answered with when upward mobility is suppressed by thd government. If you read further in the thread I explained how think the government is mostly protecting and enabling this mobilty. A good education system is part of that. Would love to see continued growth in AP and dual enrollment opportunities as well as skilled trades education to help create more opportunities for students.
 
So my brother lives in Minneapolis and he said that there’s a lot of white supremacists out and about burning and stirring things up with the hopes of trying to start a civil war, and a lot of blame is being falsely placed.On the other hand, there’s all sorts of people cleaning up the damage, and apparently it looks almost normal at around noon the next day
 
14146450:Lonely said:
Population size, and the difference in population sizes is the one of the most core ideas of statistics. Stick to being a constitution hating commie

Population size has nothing to do with a graph that references individual incidents. If anything individual cases would ultimately swing in the minorities favor. It clearly shows 13% Of the population is far more violent than the 17% of Hispanics, or the 6% of Asians or the 60% of whites that make up the US

I’m sure you aren’t that stupid and this is a troll attempt after having no factual reason to delegitimize a statistic you don’t like.

why don’t you go lick some boots you constitution loving white supremacist
 
14146493:Film. said:
Oh no they got hit by a baton. There’s a video of a police officer getting ran over by a car right now. Oh no not the tear gas they scream “police brutality” as citizens start killing cops. You are a moron bro, not all cops are bad. The nations burning to the ground right now because criminals are fighting back against cops. Because the cops try to enforce rules. One bad cop kills someone and 10 fine cops get murdered. Yet you don’t give a fuck about the cops who died in the line of duty protecting you from ruthless criminals. Fuck off

That's crazy you only start caring about peoples lives when they are white police officers. Those same police officers protect the "bad apples" when they don't speak out about crimes their colleagues commit, they just protect each other. While I don't like seeing people get hurt, the police understand the risks and get paid to be on the frontline. George Floyd wasn't paid to be on the frontlines, Eric Garner wasn't paid to be on the frontlines. The only crime they committed was being black in America.
 
14146527:CLQ said:
That's crazy you only start caring about peoples lives when they are white police officers. Those same police officers protect the "bad apples" when they don't speak out about crimes their colleagues commit, they just protect each other. While I don't like seeing people get hurt, the police understand the risks and get paid to be on the frontline. George Floyd wasn't paid to be on the frontlines, Eric Garner wasn't paid to be on the frontlines. The only crime they committed was being black in America.

Yes so the only option to stop police brutality is kill every police officer and destroy every city. Spot on logic bud surprised you aren’t at the riots right now ruining shop owners lives who have nothing to do with George Floyd’s murder. Go fuck yourself and go fuck yourself again. You probably flip police officers off while driving by like I did when I was 12 after discovering NWA. Congratulations you have the intelligence of a 12 year old.
 
14146534:Film. said:
Yes so the only option to stop police brutality is kill every police officer and destroy every city. Spot on logic bud surprised you aren’t at the riots right now ruining shop owners lives who have nothing to do with George Floyd’s murder. Go fuck yourself and go fuck yourself again. You probably flip police officers off while driving by like I did when I was 12 after discovering NWA. Congratulations you have the intelligence of a 12 year old.

Black Lives Matter!! ACAB!!
https://tuckbot.tv/#/watch/gqthu2
 
14146491:Scaredwhiteboy said:
Kids born poor remain poor because they inherited bad traits from their poor parents. Why would you expect the offspring of a poor person to be equally likely to succeed as the offspring of a wealthy person? Usually, that wealthy person acquired wealth because they were intelligent or gifted in some other way. If true, you'd then expect their offspring would be more likely to succeed as well because they inherit the same traits that made their parents successful. Intelligence, charisma, work ethic, strength, speed, looks, etc. All these things factor into how successful you are in life, and they're all to some extent inherited genetically from your ancestors.

We already have a socialist education system in the United States. Any kid can get a full k-12 education regardless of their parents' income. There is no societal barrier preventing poor kids from succeeding in life. Any kid can work their way into a high-income career by doing all their homework during high school, attending their flagship state university, majoring in something useful, and completing their degree with a good GPA. There is nothing stopping poor kids from being successful but themselves. This is proven by the countless poor kids who have worked their way into success. Jeff Bezos, for example, was the son of a teenage mom and a deadbeat dad. He's now the richest man in the world.

Alright, I want to clear some stuff up here and put some personal stuff out there.

First of all, I think all people can change, but while most issues are grey I feel that how certain members of the police have acted in the past 5 days has been nothing short of despicable. This comes from someone who is usually on the side of cops and grew up with family members in the force and working with the force throughout highschool and into college. I think if you can't admit that then there is something wrong with your train of thought. There is a substantial amount of the police force that should not be cops.

Secondly, I grew up poor, like seriously poor until I was maybe into my sophomore year of high school. Me saying that is not meant to be a pity trip. I was fortunate to have a parent that worked their way up from nothing to become successful and that was instilled in me. That being said, playing the system does not always work in your favor. I graduated top in class, went to a top university and I will still have huge amounts of debt into the foreseeable future. That is with both parents in the picture, still working and not incriminated over a g of weed. Based on what you are saying I did everything right, but I am still hosed. The worst thing is is that I am white, middle class, and came from an above-average school district. There are millions who had it way worse than me who, based on your ideas of inherited traits, could have been much more successful. Why would you rather leave them behind than raise them up? I can't even imagine what it would be like to be in a school with no funding, no opportunity to dual enroll, or no have access to the things that I had access to in my developmental years.

To say that there is no barrier for poor kids to be successful because of jeff Bezos is like saying having your parachute fail isn't deadly because one guy survived by falling into a hay bale. It's not countless, it's very quantifiable. Name me 10 billionaires from the U.S. who grow up poor in an inner-city and were still successful. I don't understand why in the U.S. we are so against improving the lives of our fellow countrymen just because they might do better than us. Not all k-12 educations are equal. Not all people grow up in equal households. Not all people have to grow up worried about being shot because of the color of their skin and the place that they are growing up in. Why can't we improve that?

Our goal should be to make ourselves and our fellow citizens as successful as possible regardless of circumstance. Yet people like you want to push our fellow citizens down since it "might possibly make it equal or it the very most easier to be successful than what I experienced"

Our country would be better off without people like you.

At the end of the day, some people's minds can't be changed. You are entitled to you're opinion and freedom of action and unlike you, I don't think you should be shot with pepper balls or tazed and dragged from their cars because of it.

I'd just like to repeat a line from your post here. " There is nothing stopping poor kids from being successful but themselves". Truly spoken like someone who has never had to wonder when they will be able to eat their next full meal, see their parent, buy school supplies, get a ride to school or a myriad of other things.
 
14146484:r00kie said:
Peaceful protesters being assulted is very messed up. I would suport anyone defending themselves against an officer doing such things. But lighting things on fire, smashing windows, spraying graffiti, looting businesses is not a form of self-defence.

**This post was edited on Jun 1st 2020 at 11:46:16pm

totally agree, but while the news loves to report that, it is still the minority
 
14146515:SnowshoeThompson said:
Population size has nothing to do with a graph that references individual incidents. If anything individual cases would ultimately swing in the minorities favor. It clearly shows 13% Of the population is far more violent than the 17% of Hispanics, or the 6% of Asians or the 60% of whites that make up the US

I’m sure you aren’t that stupid and this is a troll attempt after having no factual reason to delegitimize a statistic you don’t like.

why don’t you go lick some boots you constitution loving white supremacist

Population size has everything to do with it. Population size and the data you get from that population can entirely skew a graph and statistical analysis aka survivorship bias. The simplest example I can think of is this- say you are shooting 14 grey marbles at a pile of 70 green marbles, 11 blue marbles, 9 yellow marbles, 7 green marbles, and 3 red marbles. Pretty likely that you are going to hit a green marble eh? Considering the fact that they are 70% of the total marbles. I don't even want to talk about this anymore. If you are cool with extrajudicial killings there is not much I can do to change that.

The bootlicking and white supremacy is rich considering you are trying to justify the assault of inocconenet civilians sitting on their property and the unjustified murder of a black man. Sorry for liking true freedom for all people.
 
So curfew in Columbus past couple days that begins at 10pm which is right the time when I leave work to go home. First two nights, the road blocks were different locations. Took me about 45min instead of the usual 15min to get home.

So today, I'm working night shift, heading into work, I go to get off my normal exit and there's cones partially blocking it but wide enough for a car to fit through. So I slow down and then stop because we are supposed to be exempt from the curfew (just show badge and cool) but the cop car doesn't look like he's in a position for me to show my badge. He's parked directly facing the ramp. I call police dispatch and conveniently they have no fucking clue. Now I got some cunt behind me laying on her horn and trying to get around me nearly scraping my car. Ended up having a tense conversation with this bitch who said she lives nearby, probably in some overpriced renovated crack house. She takes the lead and starts to move forward.

The cop then turns on his sirens and horn and pulls up his loud speaker and tells us to leave immediately. Fuck me, the hospital is literally 500yds from the exit and I can't get off. So now her, I, and about 10 other cars have to merge from stopped and onto a busy freeway right at a choke point.

I was so fucking pissed. Had to jump on another highway and take neighborhood streets to double back to work; not the safest neighborhood either. Rolled in 30min late.

You might be asking why I even tried to get off somewhere that looked closed. Well my coworker the other day tried getting home and kept hitting roadblock after roadblock and going in circles. They keep randomly changing the road blocks and don't have this info posted anywhere. Not the police website. Not ODOT. Nowhere! Absolutely bullshit. The way the curfew is worded, we should be able to get through. Man I was heated.
 
Maybe if the cops wanted to stop the looting they could go stand in front of the businesses to protect them. But no, they have to stand in formation in full riot gear, in a fucking line across the street, don't arrest any actual looters, because that would make them actually have to do their jobs, and beat the shit out of everyone else who isn't looting just to assert their dominance or whatever. The business owners have to now take up arms and defend their own businesses, because the police won't actually help, they're so fucking incompetent.
 
14146544:ronders_ said:
Maybe if the cops wanted to stop the looting they could go stand in front of the businesses to protect them. But no, they have to stand in formation in full riot gear, in a fucking line across the street, don't arrest any actual looters, because that would make them actually have to do their jobs, and beat the shit out of everyone else who isn't looting just to assert their dominance or whatever. The business owners have to now take up arms and defend their own businesses, because the police won't actually help, they're so fucking incompetent.

I just watched a live stream in rhode island and this is exactly what happened. Cops standing by, riot gear came, then people just there to watch or document (not even protest) got kicked tf out by pissed off cops acting hard while they walk down half a block to where people are looting atm machines and stores, and setting fires to apartments.
 
14146543:Turd__Authority said:
So curfew in Columbus past couple days that begins at 10pm which is right the time when I leave work to go home. First two nights, the road blocks were different locations. Took me about 45min instead of the usual 15min to get home.

So today, I'm working night shift, heading into work, I go to get off my normal exit and there's cones partially blocking it but wide enough for a car to fit through. So I slow down and then stop because we are supposed to be exempt from the curfew (just show badge and cool) but the cop car doesn't look like he's in a position for me to show my badge. He's parked directly facing the ramp. I call police dispatch and conveniently they have no fucking clue. Now I got some cunt behind me laying on her horn and trying to get around me nearly scraping my car. Ended up having a tense conversation with this bitch who said she lives nearby, probably in some overpriced renovated crack house. She takes the lead and starts to move forward.

The cop then turns on his sirens and horn and pulls up his loud speaker and tells us to leave immediately. Fuck me, the hospital is literally 500yds from the exit and I can't get off. So now her, I, and about 10 other cars have to merge from stopped and onto a busy freeway right at a choke point.

I was so fucking pissed. Had to jump on another highway and take neighborhood streets to double back to work; not the safest neighborhood either. Rolled in 30min late.

You might be asking why I even tried to get off somewhere that looked closed. Well my coworker the other day tried getting home and kept hitting roadblock after roadblock and going in circles. They keep randomly changing the road blocks and don't have this info posted anywhere. Not the police website. Not ODOT. Nowhere! Absolutely bullshit. The way the curfew is worded, we should be able to get through. Man I was heated.

Uh, haven't you heard dude? Your opinions don't matter because being late to work is nothing compared to being a black person facing racial injustice.

You should be happy and you're lucky that you're just late to work

(Am I doing the mental gymnastics right guys?)
 
14146542:Lonely said:
Population size has everything to do with it. Population size and the data you get from that population can entirely skew a graph and statistical analysis aka survivorship bias. The simplest example I can think of is this- say you are shooting 14 grey marbles at a pile of 70 green marbles, 11 blue marbles, 9 yellow marbles, 7 green marbles, and 3 red marbles. Pretty likely that you are going to hit a green marble eh? Considering the fact that they are 70% of the total marbles. I don't even want to talk about this anymore. If you are cool with extrajudicial killings there is not much I can do to change that.

The bootlicking and white supremacy is rich considering you are trying to justify the assault of inocconenet civilians sitting on their property and the unjustified murder of a black man. Sorry for liking true freedom for all people.

So your argument is that the only reason grey “marbles” hit green “marbles“ is because of probability?

Yet you’re denying grey “marbles” still initiate more TOTAL hits comparable to any other color even after being 1/5 the size of the largest group... Grey marbles are more violent... especially towards their own race.

https://www.nationalreview.com/magazine/2019/12/22/the-need-to-discuss-black-on-black-crime/

The two videos I’ve seen of innocent people being shot with non-lethal rounds is during city curfew. They were told to go inside several times by officers while they just stood there dumbfounded. When people literally burn down a police station you really think cops are going to have much of a tolerance?

I’m sure there was some police brutality and that’s horrible... but what logical person puts themself in that situation when they see a line of police officers coming towards them in riot gear..

Finally, literally nobody.... NOBODY has made an argument trying to justify George Floyds death yet several of you keep insinuating it nonstop. Must feel good to assume you are on the forefront of tolerance when you can instantly associate anybody with a factual understanding as “selfish” or “inhumane”

this is literally corona virus 2.0

im ready for the downvotes on this one
 
Reddit has a whole page now. This is sickening.

14146385:Lonely said:
List of incidents of police brutality since the protests started.

Working on a list, please feel free to share it:

firing something at innocent person on their porch:

https://streamable.com/u2jzoo

cop appearing to be enjoying himself today:

https://v.redd.it/jjclrdzp8x151

cop shooting something at guy for saying "fuck you":

https://v.redd.it/zepg0b43ly151

cops breaking supplies for peaceful protestors:

https://v.redd.it/v8x8isj0xz151

nypd driving into protestors:

https://v.redd.it/mztm15kh00251 https://gfycat.com/misguidedrecklesscod

cops shoving an old dude to the ground:

https://v.redd.it/bluggpblrz151

police actively seeking out fights compilation:

https://v.redd.it/m82yxl4qh0251

cop driving at people aggressively on a campus:

https://v.redd.it/ngxvkoro60251

cop shooting rubber bullets at people watching from apartment:

https://mobile.twitter.com/Sarah_Mojarad/status/1266633046591078400?s=09

police shooting the press with rubber bullets:

https://v.redd.it/o3v8ps7rat151

police arresting a CNN reporter:

https://v.redd.it/yce9bpk8mo151

police doing a drive-by pepper spraying

https://mobile.twitter.com/JordanUhl/status/1266193926316228609

photographer being pepper sprayed:

https://i.redd.it/4ix8f3j6dy151.jpg

guy with hands in the air gets his mask ripped off and pepper sprayed:

https://v.redd.it/wlx0gyoe21251

lady who was coming home with groceries who got a rubber bullet to the head:

https://i.redd.it/ns0uj557x0251.jpg

https://mobile.twitter.com/KevinRKrause/status/1266898396339675137

reporter blinded by rubber bullets:

https://mobile.twitter.com/KillerMartinis/status/1266618525600399361?s=19

reporter describes getting tear gassed:

https://mobile.twitter.com/mollyhf/status/1266911382613692422

couple getting yanked out of their car and tased for violating curfew:

https://mobile.twitter.com/GAFollowers/status/1266919104574865410?s=19

young woman gets shoved to the ground by officer:

https://mobile.twitter.com/whitney_hu/status/1266540710188195843?s=20

reporter sheltering in gas station is pepper sprayed: https://twitter.com/MichaelAdams317

reporter trying to get home gets window shot out: https://twitter.com/JaredGoyette/status/1266961243476299778

cops come at a guy for filming a police car burning:

https://twitter.com/johncusack/status/1266953514242228229

photographer arrested:


Columbus police assaulting protestors:

https://twitter.com/KRobPhoto/status/1266796191469252610

congresswoman sprayed with pepper spray during protest:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/30/politics/joyce-beatty-ohio-pepper-sprayed-columbus-protest/index.html

7 protesters fired on with rubber bullets:

https://v.redd.it/tal1ncha4o151

cops pepper spraying a group of protestors without provocation https://v.redd.it/0dxnkso0a1251

young child allegedly pepper sprayed:

https://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/video-shows-milk-poured-over-face-of-child-pepper-sprayed-in-seattle-protest

horse tramples young woman, police investigating: https://www.click2houston.com/news/local/2020/05/30/watch-video-captures-moment-police-horse-tramples-woman-during-houston-rally/

cop pushes protestor with his bike

https://twitter.com/ava/status/1266797973834395648?s=20

Reuters reporters detail being shot at with rubber bullets:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-minneapolis-police-protest-update/reuters-cameraman-hit-by-rubber-bullets-as-police-disperse-protesters-idUSKBN237050

Cincinnati Police shooting at people sitting down and macing a knocked out dude in the face

https://mobile.twitter.com/kodyfishertv/status/1266901735198638082

Cop pushing through other officers to shove & pepper spray a group of protesters standing with their hands up.

https://twitter.com/alexbandea/status/1266933734277873664

Cop shooting unarmed protester.

https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/gtv6ug/downtown_salt_lake_city_may_30th_2020_unarmed/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x

Cops leaving protest shoot paper ball at person on the sidewalk:

https://twitter.com/heyydnae/status/1267139396278661121?s=21

Austin police firing rubber bullets at a peaceful crowd:

https://twitter.com/ironfront7/status/1267133400156196870?s=21

Omaha - known racist shoots and kills young black protester. Questioned and released (on a Saturday night) without charges

https://www.omaha.com/news/crime/slain-protester-identified-downtown-omaha-assesses-damage-from-vandalism/article_0238d156-cea2-54b8-9a54-05e4e6e3ea42.html?fbclid=IwAR2N07VChdIg5wFm7kCd1FH3eZmhblhPSjpqjK0SZMQq0ecRE9cOGoG4SxM#utm_campaign=blox&utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social

Man pepper sprayed in his own apartment on 2nd floor. Richmond, VA

https://twitter.com/greg_doucette/status/1267213758360846338?s=19

Cops shoot pepper balls into an apartment windows. https://twitter.com/GIFsZP/status/1267241803750813703

LV - just waking. Literally that’s all.

https://twitter.com/lasvegaslocally/status/1267210841595604992?s=21

Madison WI - This video that I took last night of a police officer pepper spraying a peaceful protestor with their arms up:

https://twitter.com/NeonMarionette/status/1266962885957292032?s=20

cops come at a guy for filming a police car burning:

https://twitter.com/johncusack/status/1266953514242228229

video compilation of most of these links:


r/2020PoliceBrutality for a community to post and discuss the events

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14146547:Biffbarf said:
Uh, haven't you heard dude? Your opinions don't matter because being late to work is nothing compared to being a black person facing racial injustice.

You should be happy and you're lucky that you're just late to work

(Am I doing the mental gymnastics right guys?)

Precisely why I didn't test my luck and proceed towards the cop car. Not trying to get shot
 
14146497:Film. said:
After this week of watching these savages destroy cities I’ll say it with pride. I BACK THE BLUE. Thank the police for keeping your city from burning to ash from these monsters.

BLUE LIVES MATTER

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if cops didn’t kill black people in the first place then there wouldn’t be any riots you fucking retard.
 
Absolutely perplexed that so many cops nationwide are committing these egregious acts on camera during protests specifically against that sort of stuff. While they seem to be targeting all protesters without mercy, it's evident by some of the videos online that blacks are still being singled out. This is totally unreal and clearly none of the cops are reading social media when they get home or watching the news; if they are, then they're even dumber than I thought. This is crazy. Maddening. I literally have no words.

We continually hear about random police brutality and profiling but brush it aside since it doesn't affect us and not something we experience. This however is on stage for everyone to see and no one can ignore the flood of videos that are being published. So fucked up.
 
14146527:CLQ said:
George Floyd wasn't paid to be on the frontlines, Eric Garner wasn't paid to be on the frontlines. The only crime they committed was being black in America.

Well, that, along with drug possession, grand larceny, false impersonation, driving without a license, selling untaxed cigarettes, resisting arrest, forgery, assault. All accounting for over 30 arrests.

Should they still be alive? Absolutely. Was what the particular officer did that resulted in the death of each justified. Nope.

Is their only 'crime' being black? Definitely not.
 
14146504:JAHpow said:
Yeah, the legolas thing was dumb. A few years ago I thought maybe there was going to be a miniseries made of The Silmarillion. That would've been awesome, but I think it's too epic in scope to make possible. Who knows if there would even be much interest in it. I love The Silmarillion, but I know several others who thought it was boring.

I was too young when I read the Silmarillion and didn’t really understand much of what Tolkien was doing. Definitely need to reread. I think a series would be fantastic, plenty going on in the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd age to keep audiences interested.
 
14146562:Charlie_Kelly said:
I was too young when I read the Silmarillion and didn’t really understand much of what Tolkien was doing. Definitely need to reread. I think a series would be fantastic, plenty going on in the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd age to keep audiences interested.

This LOTR discussion is better than what this thread turned into
 
14146562:Charlie_Kelly said:
I was too young when I read the Silmarillion and didn’t really understand much of what Tolkien was doing. Definitely need to reread. I think a series would be fantastic, plenty going on in the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd age to keep audiences interested.

My hope would be for it to turn into a game of thrones scale and quality production (just without a wildly anticlimactic ending). It could very well be the most epic story told of that universe. Considering that the wars and turmoil were so great that the gods literally broke and sunk the land into the ocean.

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**This post was edited on Jun 2nd 2020 at 10:19:06am
 
14146581:JAHpow said:
My hope would be for it to turn into a game of thrones scale and quality production (just without a wildly anticlimactic ending). It could very well be the most epic story told of that universe. Considering that the wars and turmoil were so great that the gods literally broke and sunk the land into the ocean.

**This post was edited on Jun 2nd 2020 at 10:17:10am

**This post was edited on Jun 2nd 2020 at 10:19:06am

Ah yes, Beleriand, which would have extended west of the shire and misty mountains.

Is the amazon show still on? I hear it is to take place in the second age.
 
14146584:Charlie_Kelly said:
Ah yes, Beleriand, which would have extended west of the shire and misty mountains.

Is the amazon show still on? I hear it is to take place in the second age.

Didn't know so I looked it up-

"Amazon closed a deal in November 2017 to buy the television right for The Lord of the Rings for $250 million, making a five season production commitment worth at least $1 billion. This would make it the most expensive television series ever. Payne and McKay were hired to develop the series in July 2018, with the rest of the series' creative team confirmed a year later. Casting took place around the world, with Robert Aramayo leading a large cast of series regulars. Filming began in February 2020 in Auckland, New Zealand, after negotiations between Amazon and the New Zealand government ensured the series could be produced in the country where the film trilogy had been made. Production on the series was placed on hold in March due to the COVID-19 pandemic.

The Lord of the Rings is expected to premiere on Prime Video in 2021. A second season was formally ordered in November 2019."

That's according to Wikipedia. I'm very excited. It may just blow the doors off of Game of Thrones.
 
14146589:JAHpow said:
The Lord of the Rings is expected to premiere on Prime Video in 2021. A second season was formally ordered in November 2019."

That's according to Wikipedia. I'm very excited. It may just blow the doors off of Game of Thrones.

Wasn't aware, pretty exciting.

But yeah, looks like a ton of shows and movies are going to be pushed out due to COVID, 2021 might see very little volume in terms of new shows and movies, which would make sense.
 
14146498:theabortionator said:
Yeah everyone's equal and people need to stop being lazy and pull themselves up by their bootstraps right?

Here's an example of somebody that wasn't wealthy and now is crushing see?

This thread blows.

They're not equal; that was the whole point. The same way short people birth short kids, stupid people birth stupid kids. The primary reason poor kids don't often get out of poverty is because they are stupid just like their parents. If you believe in evolution, this shouldn't even be controversial. Even if society were perfectly fair, poor kids would still be less likely to succeed because they are more likely to inherit bad genes from their parents.

If it's impossible for poor people to pull themselves out of poverty, how did Jeff Bezos do it? And not only did he pull himself out of poverty, he made himself the richest man in the world.
 
14146625:Scaredwhiteboy said:
They're not equal; that was the whole point. The same way short people birth short kids, stupid people birth stupid kids. The primary reason poor kids don't often get out of poverty is because they are stupid just like their parents. If you believe in evolution, this shouldn't even be controversial. Even if society were perfectly fair, poor kids would still be less likely to succeed because they are more likely to inherit bad genes from their parents.

If it's impossible for poor people to pull themselves out of poverty, how did Jeff Bezos do it? And not only did he pull himself out of poverty, he made himself the richest man in the world.

This would make sense if intellect was the only worthwhile measure of a man
 
14146626:Biffbarf said:
This would make sense if intellect was the only worthwhile measure of a man

Intellect, charisma, height, appearance, strength, and stamina all play into the quality of job you can get hired for, and all these traits are passed down genetically from ancestors to some degree. Do you really think it's pure coincidence that black people make up 75% of the NBA despite being 13% of the population? The odds of that happening by random chance are well over one in a billion. The reason black people dominate the NBA is because they inherit athleticism from their parents.

If you don't believe in genetics, that's fine, but just go out and say it so that we can agree to disagree.
 
14146560:JAHpow said:
Well, that, along with drug possession, grand larceny, false impersonation, driving without a license, selling untaxed cigarettes, resisting arrest, forgery, assault. All accounting for over 30 arrests.

Should they still be alive? Absolutely. Was what the particular officer did that resulted in the death of each justified. Nope.

Is their only 'crime' being black? Definitely not.

George Floyd was accused of using a fake $20 bill, he did not resist arrest and was killed. Eric Garner was selling cigarettes for a $1, he was almost immediately put into a choke hold that killed him.
 
Where is the proof that the bill in the first place, and what is the name of the CUNT that called the cops on him or the name of the store?

14146632:CLQ said:
George Floyd was accused of using a fake $20 bill, he did not resist arrest and was killed. Eric Garner was selling cigarettes for a $1, he was almost immediately put into a choke hold that killed him.
 
14146632:CLQ said:
George Floyd was accused of using a fake $20 bill, he did not resist arrest and was killed. Eric Garner was selling cigarettes for a $1, he was almost immediately put into a choke hold that killed him.

You really think he went to all the effort of counterfeiting a $20 bill just to only make one? How dumb are you?

There is no proof he did not resist arrest. None of the security camera footage actually shows him being taken to the ground.
 
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