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Laurent.
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Who took care of the text on Voigtlaender's website?
The Bessa R4 models take currently an island position in the market with its finder which is integrated with a 21mm illuminated frame and so it appeals to wide angle lovers. The Bessa R4M is a real goody for all fans of puristical range finder cameras. Here, the shutter speed (1 – 1/2000s) will be educated absolutely mechanical.
The photographer takes the settings of time and aperture, though an LED scale in the finder helps him. A high robust wide angle tool for exciting pictures in finest Voigtländer quality.
http://www.voigtlaender.de/cms/voigtlaender/voigtlaender_cms.nsf/id/pa_dtag6uef49.html
The Bessa R4 models take currently an island position in the market with its finder which is integrated with a 21mm illuminated frame and so it appeals to wide angle lovers. The Bessa R4M is a real goody for all fans of puristical range finder cameras. Here, the shutter speed (1 – 1/2000s) will be educated absolutely mechanical.
The photographer takes the settings of time and aperture, though an LED scale in the finder helps him. A high robust wide angle tool for exciting pictures in finest Voigtländer quality.
http://www.voigtlaender.de/cms/voigtlaender/voigtlaender_cms.nsf/id/pa_dtag6uef49.html
1: WTF Chinon is still a company?
2: WTF Chinon came out with something fucking awesome?
2: WTF Chinon came out with something fucking awesome?
TijmenDal
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I just put an offer of 275€ in for a Leica M2 for fun and the seller just contacted me and told me he wants to sell it to me for that price. What? I don't even... The back door's paint looks a little scuffed, but other than that the camera seems to be in good condition. Wow... I've wanted an M2 for quite a while now and sometimes I look if they're put up for sale locally, but I didn't expect to actually own one. Exciting stuff... My favorite M! Too bad it isn't a no self-timer/button rewind. That would make it complete. Stupid self-timer lever...
TijmenDal
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12949895:Balto said:
Yeah, that's what I'm thinking, but I don't know who could. I've got minimal experience with Leica's (apart from shooting them). The seller has bought it second-hand too and says he hasn't had any problems with it. When the last CLA was done he doesn't know.
What would be reasonable to ask the seller? If I can have it checked by a skileld repair man? And if it doesn't meet standards if I can return it?
Balto
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12949939:TijmenDal said:
Yes if you can have a reputable repair man give it a look over. For all you know the shutter could be on its last leg, half the gears could be rusted, the clutch might be ready to fail, etc etc. You don't know what the camera has been through and its clearly not a show piece for that price.
KrazyistKarl
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Rare blood moon lunar eclipse tonight, get out and shoot!
Childstar.
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Got out and shot the first drift day of the year, good to be back out shooting them!
[video]https://vimeo.com/91887813[/video]
[video]https://vimeo.com/91887813[/video]
juicedrummer11
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welp it was a bit cloudy to start and i only had a shitty 135mm lens on me so this is as good as it got for me shooting the "blood moon" coulda cropped it more but wanted less pixels. whatevs, still a cool phenomenon and i didn't get pictures of the last one that happened so kinda stoked
Mother fucker! The TINIEST little hair somehow made it's way onto my sensor and has royally screwed up a bunch of my recent photos...
...Digital is annoying sometimes.
...Digital is annoying sometimes.
12954363:omnidata said:
It's so inviting though!
No.Quarter
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Film backs, Extension tube, and 180mm f4.5 W-N came today.
Holy fuck this is a big camera
Holy fuck this is a big camera
No.Quarter
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12955720:cydwhit said:
What are you shooting on again?
cydwhit
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12955747:JakeSmith said:
7d mainly but I play around with an om10, in the sake of shameless self promotion here are a few shots I got from it.
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I was stoked about those but I am really not much of a film guy
Ethan.G
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Just saw rumors about a Zeiss announcement for an Otus 85mm 1,4 at Photokina. My Zeiss 85 is already such an incredible lens I can't even imagine how sweet that Otus would be for shooting panos/portraits.
Would be sick to get one or perhaps a Schneider 50 depending on the price point of the Otus.
Would be sick to get one or perhaps a Schneider 50 depending on the price point of the Otus.
RileySnyderPhoto
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12955852:Ethan.G said:
Word on the street is that the new Sigma 50mm f/1.4 Art is supposed to be the same if not better quality and under $1000.
RileySnyderPhoto
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12956008:Ethan.G said:
Tis true but $$$$$$$$$$$
I honestly don't understand the appeal of the otus. I mean look at this behemoth.
I get the no expense spared shit on trying to make a lens optically insane, but I don't understand how it would sell particularly well.
I mean, my 1986 Nikkor 50 f1.8 is as distortion free and sharp as almost anybody's going to need. the Otus is just overkill imo
I get the no expense spared shit on trying to make a lens optically insane, but I don't understand how it would sell particularly well.
I mean, my 1986 Nikkor 50 f1.8 is as distortion free and sharp as almost anybody's going to need. the Otus is just overkill imo
goodiepocket
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12956087:DingoSean said:I honestly don't understand the appeal of the otus. I mean look at this behemoth.
I get the no expense spared shit on trying to make a lens optically insane, but I don't understand how it would sell particularly well.
I mean, my 1986 Nikkor 50 f1.8 is as distortion free and sharp as almost anybody's going to need. the Otus is just overkill imo
Well, obviously having a lens that is 'distortion free and sharp' isn't everything that makes a lens a good lens. I have the Otus and I have the same vintage Nikkor 50 1.8 and trust me, they are no where near the same lens. In almost every aspect. I would understand this a bit more if you were comparing the new Sigma 50/1.4 ART, especially for photography due to it's cheaper price, close-ish performance and not being fully manual.
I will agree the Otus is a decent amount of money...but it's an investment. IMO it is a lens that I will probably have forever...and it'll last that long as well. And after using it for the past 4 weeks, I know I am going to keep this thing forever. It's one of my favorite looking and feeling lenses I have ever worked with. I mean, in the world of lenses, it's really not that expensive of a lens in relation to it's performance...especially in the world of cinematography.
TijmenDal
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12956087:DingoSean said:
Word.
12956118:omnidata said:
True. I've had it with pixel peepers. Any German (non-DDR) or Japanese lens from the last thirty years (especially 35 and 50mm's) will do. Unless you're shooting editorial stuff, which like 0.001% of all photographers do.
I mean, I like cool stuff, but I've had it with the pixel peeping...
Spend money on experience not fucking gear. I thought we (smart, young, urban(ish) cosmopolitans) would be post-materialistic awesome dudes, but apparently that's not the case...
goodiepocket
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and sorry, I misspoke- I have the vintage Nikkor 50 1.4, not the 1.8.
Balto
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I don't know what you guys are complaining about, the otis is probably the single best choice for an slr professional prime at this point, it's not built like shit like any of the canikons, and it is capable of resolving enough data for this 36+ mpx world we will soon be going into. It's not a lens for someone who does this as a hobby, a serious working pro can cover that cost of one in a single day.
RileySnyderPhoto
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12956452:Balto said:
I don't know about a single day but agreed!
Ethan.G
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I agree with Balto. It's a pretty large investment for most people but I like the way Zeiss is heading with the Otus line, creating lenses for sensors with increasingly larger resolutions. There's great vintage/lower cost lenses for sure, I doubt anyone is arguing that but I think Zeiss is killing it with these so called "ultra premium" lenses. I mean damn their lenses are built like tanks, pixel peeping aside. Apologies if I'm just repeating myself/anyone else.
Balto
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12956517:RileySnyderPhoto said:
I personally know a couple of photogs that are at about 10k for their day rate, be it studio product or weddings, so yes those kind of people which the lens was made for can cover their cost very quickly. PLUS they can write if off their taxes, people always forget about that.
12956385:TijmenDal said:
This. I mean, I know that I've been on a spending spree as of late, but only because I just switched systems entirely.
As for the Otus, imo, a 50mm is supposed to be a small, light, extremely portable and fully practical, general purpose lens. Something you use for street and travel photography.
When it gets as large as the Otus, It's not useable in the same light. I'd invest in ultra high-quality glass if it's going towards a portrait lens where you're going for perfection, but for something like a 50, it's just not something that makes sense to me. I'd rather put that money towards a high end portrait lens and a few good strobes if I'm getting something for use in studio (which is about the only thing I can see the Otus being really for)
I don't know. That's just me. Not knocking anyone who has it, I just don't honestly understand the appeal myself.
Balto
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12957319:DingoSean said:
Because you dont need or demand the quality out of your gear that someone who is say shooting full page spreads for vouge does. If you are even considering this lens chances are you have all the other stuff already and are well versed in it's use. Yes its big, but so is every single slr made and the people who would use one typically are on d800s with battery grips. Just like how 99.9% of you dont need a hassy with 80mpx back, its a professional tool for serious professional applications.
Yeah, fine, but for a 55mm? I mean... an 85mm or 105 macro OTUS, sure...Hell, if there was some insane OTUS 15mm, that would make total sense to me, but a 55?
That's my point. It just doesn't make sense to me for that focal length.
a 50-55mm isn't a specialty focal length, is where I'm getting at here - It's practical. When you're throwing down that much money, you're DEFINITELY going for specialty I feel.
I get that people use lenses differently than I do, but I so rarely hear of anyone using a 50 other than for something small and all-purpose, that seeing a monster 50mm seems funny to me in thinking from a consumer's point of view - especially when the difference in price doesn't even remotely match the difference in performance as far as I'm concerned. Like I said, my 50$ Nikkor is so good already Really how much better am I getting for 4500$?
On top of that, the whole "D800 can outresolve anything, so it needs the OTUS" thing is silly to me as well.
That's my point. It just doesn't make sense to me for that focal length.
a 50-55mm isn't a specialty focal length, is where I'm getting at here - It's practical. When you're throwing down that much money, you're DEFINITELY going for specialty I feel.
I get that people use lenses differently than I do, but I so rarely hear of anyone using a 50 other than for something small and all-purpose, that seeing a monster 50mm seems funny to me in thinking from a consumer's point of view - especially when the difference in price doesn't even remotely match the difference in performance as far as I'm concerned. Like I said, my 50$ Nikkor is so good already Really how much better am I getting for 4500$?
On top of that, the whole "D800 can outresolve anything, so it needs the OTUS" thing is silly to me as well.
12957578:DingoSean said:
Dude, it's NOT A CONSUMER LENS. It is NOT made for people like you, or I, or anyone that needs to justify the $4500 price difference. There are professionals, in studios, that DGAF about price and need it. Thomas made this point perfectly clear.
TijmenDal
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Just picked up the M2.
It's in ok condition. Finder is clear and aligned. All shutter speeds to as low as 1/4 work great. 1/2 and 1 are a little hesitant and are a little slow. Not that I'd use those anyway, so it doesn't really matter.
Cosmetically it's not in very good condition, but who gives a rat's ass.
Now, to find out if it will go with me everywhere and become an extension of myself, or will only sit at home because I'm too scared to bring it with me everywhere.
It's in ok condition. Finder is clear and aligned. All shutter speeds to as low as 1/4 work great. 1/2 and 1 are a little hesitant and are a little slow. Not that I'd use those anyway, so it doesn't really matter.
Cosmetically it's not in very good condition, but who gives a rat's ass.
Now, to find out if it will go with me everywhere and become an extension of myself, or will only sit at home because I'm too scared to bring it with me everywhere.
12957612:Walter.1337 said:
What I said isn't about that. I'm asking how many photogs use a non-macro 55mm lens in a studio? I get the appeal for high quality specialty glass for professionals.
I'm basing this on who I've met, and my own experience, but I don't know many studio shooters who use 50/55's unless it's all they've got. a 4500$ "captain insano" 85mm, macro 105mm or 135mm makes a lot more sense in my book, is what I'm saying.