Lemme put it this way

[k-rob]

i have been in a lot of fights, and i've even been beaten by police, and never once has it ever crossed my mind that i ought to have a gun and shoot the person (except maybe in my dreams, but those don't count). in fact, i've been in so many encounters with police in my life and never once has one of them thought he ought to pull his gun out on me, much less shoot me, (and i can be a pretty intimidating guy, i'm half-black, i work out for a living, i usually wear a long black leather jacket and black jeans and black boots with black gloves and a black hat, and old white ladies are usually terrified of me, and i reek of pot 24/7), so why does it happen every 28 hours across a border from me, where most of my friends live?

 

[k-rob]

actually it might just be the heat. i mean, up here in canada, its cold most of the year, so you need thick warm blood. i mean fucking holding a cold metal death machine in your hands when it's -30 outside, lets just get in the cop car and turn the heat up so we don't freeze to death, hash it out like men (with polite discussion), and get driven home. europe is pretty bleak and dreary, not very exciting, doesn't look cool when you shoot guns all over the place, honestly. japanese people are practically aquatic so that might have something to do with the gunpowder being too wet. maybe the cops just need to cool off, take an ice bath, ski more, point guns at people less. i'm humbled by the fact that every time i go outside, the weather, or a bear or a mountain lion or a wolf, could kill me. not interested in fighting other people too.

 

[.MASSHOLE.]

you inability to watch a video in which she wasn`t the one choking him to death is astoundingly evident.

She was the ranking officer at the scene, anything she says or does contrary to what he did would indicate he was violating orders of a superior...

You do know that is how ranks work right?

 

[k-rob]

She was the ranking officer at the scene, anything she says or does contrary to what he did would indicate he was violating orders of a superior...

You do know that is how ranks work right?

so eric garner was just brutality, not race. either way.

 

[.MASSHOLE.]

so eric garner was just brutality, not race. either way.

Yes. It was in the eyes of many, brutality. I never denied that. But your whole thread is based around the racial prejudice of the police force, and Eric Garner is not an example of that.

 

[XtRemE11]

Yes. It was in the eyes of many, brutality. I never denied that. But your whole thread is based around the racial prejudice of the police force, and Eric Garner is not an example of that.

exactly, its obvious we have a police brutality problem, but not a racism problem. obviously racism does and always will exist to some extent. But I dont see it being major problem with the police. police brutality IS a major problem, and every time that brutality happens to be towards a black person, the media and mindless idiots that believe/follow the media are always going to turn it into a race issue.

The brown case is a perfect example of why I dont feel sympathetic towards blacks/ the protesters. The guy just committed a robbery, was walking down the middle of the street thinking he's the shit, charged a cop etc.. The cop could have probably resolved the situation without resorting to shooting brown, but at the same time, i dont blame him one bit, when you're attacked by someone, regardless of if you're a cop or normal citizen, I think you should have every right to defend yourself, if its excessive, so what, you shouldnt have to play it safe and take into consideration your attackers well being while you're being attacked.

when you combine the average cops tendency to abuse his power and our HUGE inner city/black crime problem, you're going to have a lot of unfortunate situations like this. power tripping cops patrolling crime ridden neighborhoods is a bad combination. but that is a separate issue. Police brutality vs innocent people, and police brutality towards criminals are two totally different things.

 

[987321654hgfd]

http://nypost.com/2014/12/07/eric-holder-believes-all-cops-are-racists-targets-unconscious-bias/

 

[k-rob]

“the Negro’s great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen’s Councilor or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to “order” than to justice” - Martin Luther King Jr. (who was shot in the head for saying things like this)

so there's racism, but it's not a part of the problem? and the only problem is brutality, but it's totally ok every time a cop gets away with it?

the thing about you guys constantly bringing up the Brown case as justified is that the "evidence" used to get Darren paid was made up. THE POLICE LIED FOR 104 DAYS ABOUT THE DISTANCE, UNTIL THEIR LIE WAS PROVEN WRONG, and then they changed their story, for like the fourth time (and they changed it again after that). THE VIDEO OF "MIKE" ASSAULTING A CLERK IS NOT EVEN OF HIM, NOT EVEN FILMED THE SAME MONTH, NOT CONSIDERED REAL EVIDENCE BY THE VERY MAN WHO WOULD WANT TO SEE IT, but you claim it justified the entire scenario. DARREN'S INJURIES WEREN'T EVIDENT TO PARAMEDICS and are probably the results of his uniform chafing his skin a little. ONLY ONE WITNESS agrees with Darren's story, and that's only after the witness changed his story at least once in at least 2 ways. DARREN REFERRED TO MIKE AS 'IT' AND A 'DEMON' (i already know you don't think this means anything but i'm still pointing it out because it does). all of that holds a hell of a lot more water than, "a demon child picked up 6'4" 210 lb little me with one arm and hit me in the face with the other until my cheek turned slightly pinker than it already was and then i shot him four times but he didn't even feel that so i shot him twice in the head too"

that's just the one case that sparked all of this unrest though, and it seems you guys are already set in ignoring it, so i doubt you would consider any of the evidence in any other case either (especially the ones where there is no possible justification).

though it might not be a big problem in Colorado, racism is a big problem in Missouri at least, you have to admit that, seeing as how the KKK has already admitted it, and shown their support for the police and vice versa... however i'm sure it's all justified because it's so annoying when black people complain about being killed for nothing (because if it's not racism, then it's nothing).

 

[plyswthsqrrls]

interested in seeing your source for the police voicing their support of the KKK...

 

[k-rob]

interested in seeing your source for the police voicing their support of the KKK...

not exactly what i meant but "In it's latest statement, Anonymous claims there is a strong link between the TAKKKK and the Ferguson police department, and in the last week has published evidence showing that three high-ranking members of the TAKKKK attended a support rally for Darren Wilson in Imperial, Missouri - evidence which has now been removed from social media websites.

The group claims members of the law enforcement community in the area are silent members of the TAKKKK and call themselves the 'Ghoul Squad'.

This claim is substantiated by an ex-member of the TAKKKK called Henry Harrell who told Anonymous: "I know for a fact that the TAKKKK had a lot to do with what went on in Ferguson."

Frank Ancona, the imperial wizard of the TAKKKK is also accused of being part of this Ghoul Squad with Anonymous pointing to the fact Ancona recently checked in on Facebook at the Ferguson Police Department as evidence of his ties with law enforcement."
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/anonymous-ferguson-killer-cop-darren-wilson-linked-kkk-ghoul-squad-1475953

it sounds like a joke i know but "NOWsec has said it has a mole within the St Louis County police department who is feeding it information about officers who are also members of the KKK, part of the so-called Ghoul Squad which is made up of silent members of the TAKKKK.

The group has not published the evidence it has about Wilson's link to the KKK as it says it would threaten the life of its source, but says it continues to work to verify the links independently."

i mean they haven't said they support the KKK outright, cause that would be fucking stupid, but they also haven't said they don't support the KKK... which would be pretty smart, considering they quietly did this on their Facebookhttps://twitter.com/AnonCopWatch/status/534369603699216386

 

[k-rob]

besides my point in posting that quote was that thinking like most of yours is more harmful than any silly grand wizard fool. he at least claims to believe in some human's rights.

 

[k-rob]

Only point you've made for the past week is that whitey's are racist and blackies aren't.

well now i guess it's time for us to share some stories of the racism we've experienced. here's mine

 

[SKI.ING]

maybe not you but i haven't been arguing with myself this whole thread. also if you guys don't want to talk about race (even though the only reason i'm here is because you're a bunch of fellow skiers who somehow missed every fact in the mike brown case, except the ones made up by darren), we can talk about justice, plain and simple.

why are police officers in america allowed to get away with murder? i know of one situation in which government employees are allowed to shoot and kill civilians, in pretty much every country, but it's called war, and it's usually committed against the citizens of other countries. in america, it happens almost every day, right there in the street, on some guys cameraphone, for us to see. the coroner rules it a homicide. nobody is indicted. Eric Garners children get to grow up hating the police now, as the sons of foreign citizens get to grow up hating Americans, because there is no justice. why is this allowed? (and for anybody who isn't scared to talk about black people, why are they the only ones who care?)

Dude seriously go online and look at the case files. It's not just Wilson saying his account. The ballistics, forensics, and testimony of other people all support his side. You're the one just making shit up.

 

[k-rob]

Dude seriously go online and look at the case files. It's not just Wilson saying his account. The ballistics, forensics, and testimony of other people all support his side. You're the one just making shit up.

you quoted the wrong post dude, if you're going to accuse me of making shit up.

 

[SKI.ING]

And honestly I'm sick of Canadians like you on here. You give your country a bad name. Whenever you guys have a controversial shooting or fatal incident all of us Americans support you guys and keep it real. While whenever something happens here you Canadians just start hating and spouting bullshit out of your mouth and anus. Start blabbering about what's wrong with our laws, our government, our police, our economy. We don't do that to you guys, so shut the fuck up honestly. You need a reality check.

Everybody wants to point fingers at the U.S. and shit on us, but then everybody keeps on coming over and wants to be us. Make up your minds.

 

[SKI.ING]

you quoted the wrong post dude, if you're going to accuse me of making shit up.

How did is that the wrong quote. You're saying that Wilson's testimony is made up, even though the case files back it up.

 

[k-rob]

And honestly I'm sick of Canadians like you on here. You give your country a bad name. Whenever you guys have a controversial shooting or fatal incident all of us Americans support you guys and keep it real. While whenever something happens here you Canadians just start hating and spouting bullshit out of your mouth and anus. Start blabbering about what's wrong with our laws, our government, our police, our economy. We don't do that to you guys, so shut the fuck up honestly. You need a reality check.

Everybody wants to point fingers at the U.S. and shit on us, but then everybody keeps on coming over and wants to be us. Make up your minds.

actually this thread was about people leaving the states because it's a hole of persecution and poverty for most of the people living in it. not at all about wanting to be treated like crap or killed in the street. it's really unfortunate that the educated can't even read.

 

[k-rob]

How did is that the wrong quote. You're saying that Wilson's testimony is made up, even though the case files back it up.

that "bruise" on his face hasn't healed one bit in over 4 months.

1) “I never touched him” Michael Brown’s blood was found on his gun, on his shirt collar, and on his own pants

2) “After the incident I called for help” His body was laying in the middle of the street for four and a half hours

3) “I didn’t go for my mace because I didn’t know if it would even work on him” …What the fuck

4) “He handed me the cigarillos and said ‘Here, take this’ at which point I grabbed his wrist to control him somehow” OH OK

5) “I didn’t carry a taser so that was out of the question” “Why not” “Because we only have one available in the entire police department” UM

http://writeinblack.tumblr.com/post/103529172491/im-handing-out-full-plates-of-shut-the-fuck-up
http://lorenabobbit.tumblr.com/post/103528560896

=UUvsye7V9psc-APX6wV1twLg
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/sh...mendment-ill-lock-ass-up-arrests-man-filming/
http://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...4-8593-da634b334390_story.html?wpmk=MK0000203
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/10/21/1337729/-15-Questions-for-Darren-Wilson
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/...eir-story-about-the-murder-of-VonDerrit-Myers
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/05/ferguson-chief-lied-about-michael-brown-tape_n_5773420.html
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...erguson-cops-were-caught-in-a-bloody-lie.html

yeah the Ferguson PD are real straight shooters when it comes to unarmed citizens. and newschoolers has a fucking clue. there were zero homicides all year in Ferguson until Mike Brown, and they turned it into a police state. this is why black people hate cops.

2014: Victor White III (Iberia Parish, LA)

2014: Dante Parker (San Bernardino County, CA)

2014: Ezell Ford (Los Angeles, CA)

2014: Michael Brown (Ferguson, MO)

2014: Tyree Woodson (Baltimore, MD)

2014: John Crawford III (Beavercreek, OH)

2014: Eric Garner (New York, NY)

2014: Yvette Smith (Bastrop, TX)

2014: Jordan Baker (Houston, TX)

2013: Barrington Williams (New York, NY)

2013: Carlos Alcis (New York, NY)

2013: Deion Fludd (New York, NY)

2013: Jonathan Ferrell (Bradfield Farms, NC)

2013: Kimani Gray (New York, NY)

2013: Kyam Livingstone (New York, NY)

2013: Larry Eugene Jackson, Jr. (Austin, TX)

2013: Miriam Carey (Washington, DC)

2012: Chavis Carter (Jonesboro, AR)

2012: Dante Price (Dayton, OH)

2012: Duane Brown (New York, NY)

2012: Ervin Jefferson (Atlanta, GA)

2012: Jersey Green (Aurora, IL)

2012: Johnnnie Kamahi Warren (Dotham, AL)

2012: Justin Slipp (New Orleans, LA)

2012: Kendrec McDade (Pasadena, CA)

2012: Malissa Williams (Cleveland, OH)

2012: Nehemiah Dillard (Gainesville, FL)

2012: Ramarley Graham (New York, NY)

2012: Raymond Allen (Galveston, TX)

2012: Rekia Boyd (Chicago, IL)

2012: Reynaldo Cuevas (New York, NY)

2012: Robert Dumas Jr (Cleveland, OH)

2012: Sgt. Manuel Loggins Jr (Orange County, CA)

2012: Shantel Davis (New York, NY)

2012: Sharmel Edwards (Las Vegas, NV)

2012: Shereese Francis (New York, NY)

2012: Tamon Robinson (New York, NY)

2012: Timothy Russell (Cleveland, OH)

2012: Wendell Allen (New Orleans, LA)

2011: Alonzo Ashley (Denver, CO)

2011: Jimmell Cannon (Chicago, IL)

2011: Kenneth Chamberlain (White Plains, NY)

2011: Kenneth Harding (San Francisco, CA)

2011: Raheim Brown (Oakland, CA)

2011: Reginald Doucet (Los Angeles, CA)

2010: Aaron Campbell (Portland, OR)

2010: Aiyana Jones (Detroit, MI)

2010: Danroy Henry (Thornwood, NY)

2010: Derrick Jones (Oakland, CA)

2010: Steven Eugene Washington (Los Angeles, CA)

2009: Kiwane Carrington (Champaign, IL)

2009: Oscar Grant (Oakland, CA)

2009: Shem Walker (New York, NY)

2009: Victor Steen (Pensacola, FL)

2008: Tarika Wilson (Lima, OH)

2007: DeAunta Terrel Farrow (West Memphis, AR)

2006: Sean Bell (New York, NY)

2005: Henry Glover (New Orleans, LA)

2005: James Brisette (New Orleans, LA)

2005: Ronald Madison (New Orleans, LA)

2004: Timothy Stansbury (New York, NY)

2003: Alberta Spruill (New York, NY)

2003: Orlando Barlow (Las Vegas, NV)

2003: Ousmane Zongo (New York, NY)

2001: Timothy Thomas (Cincinnati, OH)

2000: Earl Murray (Dellwood, MO)

2000: Malcolm Ferguson (New York, NY)

2000: Patrick Dorismond (New York, NY)

2000: Prince Jones (Fairfax County, VA)

2000: Ronald Beasley (Dellwood, MO)

1999: Amadou Diallo (New York, NY)

1994: Nicholas Heyward Jr. (New York, NY)

1992: Malice Green (Detroit, MI)

1985: Edmund Perry (New York, NY)

1984: Eleanor Bumpurs (New York, NY)

1983: Michael Stewart (New York, NY)

1981: Ron Settles (Signal Hill, CA)

1979: Eula Love (Los Angeles, CA)

1969: Mark Clark (Chicago, IL)

1969: Fred Hampton (Chicago, IL)

1964: James Powell (New York, NY)

 

[XtRemE11]

“the Negro’s great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen’s Councilor or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to “order” than to justice” - Martin Luther King Jr. (who was shot in the head for saying things like this)

so there's racism, but it's not a part of the problem? and the only problem is brutality, but it's totally ok every time a cop gets away with it?

the thing about you guys constantly bringing up the Brown case as justified is that the "evidence" used to get Darren paid was made up. THE POLICE LIED FOR 104 DAYS ABOUT THE DISTANCE, UNTIL THEIR LIE WAS PROVEN WRONG, and then they changed their story, for like the fourth time (and they changed it again after that). THE VIDEO OF "MIKE" ASSAULTING A CLERK IS NOT EVEN OF HIM, NOT EVEN FILMED THE SAME MONTH, NOT CONSIDERED REAL EVIDENCE BY THE VERY MAN WHO WOULD WANT TO SEE IT, but you claim it justified the entire scenario. DARREN'S INJURIES WEREN'T EVIDENT TO PARAMEDICS and are probably the results of his uniform chafing his skin a little. ONLY ONE WITNESS agrees with Darren's story, and that's only after the witness changed his story at least once in at least 2 ways. DARREN REFERRED TO MIKE AS 'IT' AND A 'DEMON' (i already know you don't think this means anything but i'm still pointing it out because it does). all of that holds a hell of a lot more water than, "a demon child picked up 6'4" 210 lb little me with one arm and hit me in the face with the other until my cheek turned slightly pinker than it already was and then i shot him four times but he didn't even feel that so i shot him twice in the head too"

that's just the one case that sparked all of this unrest though, and it seems you guys are already set in ignoring it, so i doubt you would consider any of the evidence in any other case either (especially the ones where there is no possible justification).

though it might not be a big problem in Colorado, racism is a big problem in Missouri at least, you have to admit that, seeing as how the KKK has already admitted it, and shown their support for the police and vice versa... however i'm sure it's all justified because it's so annoying when black people complain about being killed for nothing (because if it's not racism, then it's nothing).

Racism will always be a "problem" but it will always exist to some extent, its impossible to get rid of it.

I'm saying that I dont believe police racism towards blacks is where the cop vs black abuse is coming from. just because different races are involved doesnt mean its a racism issue.

Police brutality IS a major problem. Black/inner city/gang crime IS a major problem, police are the ones in charge of stopping crime. So its a perfect scenario for cops to use their abusive power on black people because black people are involved in more crime. if it were Asians instead of blacks, it would be police vs. Asians.

Regardless, its a combination of two major problems, police brutality and black crime. protesters are saying shame on the police for abusing blacks. but what are the cops supposed to do? their job is to stop criminals, and when the majority of crime comes from blacks, they are put in a position to fuck up and use their abusive power MORE OFTEN on blacks, because the majority of their time naturally needs to be spent where the majority of crime occurs.

and since this black crime is often concentrated in certain areas, it gives cops a reason to stereotype more often. when everybody in these crime ridden neighborhoods looks/dresses/acts alike, regardless of if they're a criminal or not, cops are again put in a position to be labeled racist.

And no, racism is not an issue in colorado. Police vs. black "racism" isnt an issue either, at least near me, because blacks around here arent involved in crime and gangs (strange how the "racism" issue goes away when that race doesnt have a crime problem, and arent giving cops a reason to confront them)

I have lived in/been around some pretty sketchy areas over the last couple years as i'm traveling pretty much all the time. and when you drive/walk through some of the worst, crime ridden areas you are definitely on edge, its sketchy as fuck, everyone seems like they want to fuck you up. Its pretty scary knowing that these kind of areas exist in this country. So when a police officer is in charge of confronting, arresting, etc. these people, in these neighborhoods. i can see how they would be more likely to overreact and get themselves into a situation where things could escalate.

 

[XtRemE11]

there were zero homicides all year in Ferguson until Mike Brown, and they turned it into a police state. this is why black people hate cops.

Maybe flipping/ burning cars, houses and businesses, looting, rioting, etc.. might be a factor in turning ferguson into a police state?

 

[k-rob]

Maybe flipping/ burning cars, houses and businesses, looting, rioting, etc.. might be a factor in turning ferguson into a police state?

maybe shooting unarmed kids in the street might be a factor in unrest? also do you even look at anything i post? white people riot over football games all the time and nobody says shit.

 

[k-rob]

montreal riots every time theres a hockey game, vancouver fucked their whole city up when the nucks lost fair and square, and that's just canadian examples i can think of off the top of my head. nobody calls in the national guard for a good ol white riot, and you guys flip and burn more cars than anyone.

 

[XtRemE11]

maybe shooting unarmed kids in the street might be a factor in unrest? also do you even look at anything i post? white people riot over football games all the time and nobody says shit.

Ok yeah, riot, burn shit, and loot, that'll keep the cops from shooting anyone else, good plan guys. why cant they just riot and burn peoples businesses in peace without the cops "abusing" them? fucking racists.

And yes white people do riot over football games, i dont think anyone is saying thats ok, its equally as retarded. and guess what? police show up to those in riot gear as well.

 

[XtRemE11]

montreal riots every time theres a hockey game, vancouver fucked their whole city up when the nucks lost fair and square, and that's just canadian examples i can think of off the top of my head. nobody calls in the national guard for a good ol white riot, and you guys flip and burn more cars than anyone.

maybe cause post sporting event riots dont go on for months? why wouldnt the national guard be called in for Ferguson?

 

[k-rob]

Ok yeah, riot, burn shit, and loot, that'll keep the cops from shooting anyone else, good plan guys. why cant they just riot and burn peoples businesses in peace without the cops "abusing" them? fucking racists.

And yes white people do riot over football games, i dont think anyone is saying thats ok, its equally as retarded. and guess what? police show up to those in riot gear as well.

the cops in ferguson aren't wearing riot gear lol. they're pointing rifles at people and shooting them with the same crap used to oppress syrians. and they're decked out in more gear than american soldiers wear in the middle east, not some plastic helmets and shields. and they attack peaceful protestors. and they kill kids. they're not protecting anyone. they're a bunch of scummy losers compiled from disbanded police departments.

 

[k-rob]

maybe cause post sporting event riots dont go on for months? why wouldnt the national guard be called in for Ferguson?

because the only people being killed are citizens and witnesses? and the national guard isn't there to protect anyone but a bunch of murderers?

 

[k-rob]

maybe cause post sporting event riots dont go on for months? why wouldnt the national guard be called in for Ferguson?

also it's not their fault it took over 4 months to tell us it's not worth their time.

 

[XtRemE11]

the cops in ferguson aren't wearing riot gear lol. they're pointing rifles at people and shooting them with the same crap used to oppress syrians. and they're decked out in more gear than american soldiers wear in the middle east, not some plastic helmets and shields. and they attack peaceful protestors. and they kill kids. they're not protecting anyone. they're a bunch of scummy losers compiled from disbanded police departments.

because the only people being killed are citizens and witnesses? and the national guard isn't there to protect anyone but a bunch of murderers?

honest question.. how many citizens and witnesses have been killed, by police, during the Ferguson riots?

I heard of one guy being beaten to death with hammers by protesters, (again, great job protesters! giving the police a reason to abuse you) and another guy found dead, apparently protester related..

I'm not one to be sympathetic at all towards police, but come on, killing, burning shit, looting, basically destroying the fucking town, only gives police reason to use excessive force. protesting police racism/brutality by giving them very good reasons to be racist and brutal is pretty counter productive. if it were all peaceful protests, then yes, you can criticize the scummy loser cops, but when violent protests are a daily occurrence, its just justifying the police's action.

 

[plyswthsqrrls]

that "bruise" on his face hasn't healed one bit in over 4 months.

1) “I never touched him” Michael Brown’s blood was found on his gun, on his shirt collar, and on his own pants

2) “After the incident I called for help” His body was laying in the middle of the street for four and a half hours

3) “I didn’t go for my mace because I didn’t know if it would even work on him” …What the fuck

4) “He handed me the cigarillos and said ‘Here, take this’ at which point I grabbed his wrist to control him somehow” OH OK

5) “I didn’t carry a taser so that was out of the question” “Why not” “Because we only have one available in the entire police department” UM

1) blood was found on his gun because wilson shot at brown inside his vehicle after brown went for his weapon. Brown was hit in the thumb by a bullet, which did in fact make him bleed

2) he called for backup as soon as brown was shot, the body lying in the street was DURING the investigation... wilson wasn't just standing around for four fucking hours

3) he also states he couldn't reach his mace because it was on the other side of his belt and reaching for it would give brown more open shots at his face

4) he handed johnson the cigarillos and said "here, take these", not wilson (backed up by johnson's testimony)

5) how is it his fault the department only has one taser?

and as far as the bruising goes, you're out of your mind. you're grasping at straws man, the evidence and the testimony all support Wilson in this situation, but you're looking up even the most obscure thing to support your thoughts and ideas

 

[SFB]

that "bruise" on his face hasn't healed one bit in over 4 months.

1) “I never touched him” Michael Brown’s blood was found on his gun, on his shirt collar, and on his own pants

2) “After the incident I called for help” His body was laying in the middle of the street for four and a half hours

3) “I didn’t go for my mace because I didn’t know if it would even work on him” …What the fuck

4) “He handed me the cigarillos and said ‘Here, take this’ at which point I grabbed his wrist to control him somehow” OH OK

5) “I didn’t carry a taser so that was out of the question” “Why not” “Because we only have one available in the entire police department” UM

http://writeinblack.tumblr.com/post/103529172491/im-handing-out-full-plates-of-shut-the-fuck-up
http://lorenabobbit.tumblr.com/post/103528560896

=UUvsye7V9psc-APX6wV1twLg
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/sh...mendment-ill-lock-ass-up-arrests-man-filming/
http://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...4-8593-da634b334390_story.html?wpmk=MK0000203
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/10/21/1337729/-15-Questions-for-Darren-Wilson
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/...eir-story-about-the-murder-of-VonDerrit-Myers
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/05/ferguson-chief-lied-about-michael-brown-tape_n_5773420.html
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...erguson-cops-were-caught-in-a-bloody-lie.html

yeah the Ferguson PD are real straight shooters when it comes to unarmed citizens. and newschoolers has a fucking clue. there were zero homicides all year in Ferguson until Mike Brown, and they turned it into a police state. this is why black people hate cops.

2014: Victor White III (Iberia Parish, LA)

2014: Dante Parker (San Bernardino County, CA)

2014: Ezell Ford (Los Angeles, CA)

2014: Michael Brown (Ferguson, MO)

2014: Tyree Woodson (Baltimore, MD)

2014: John Crawford III (Beavercreek, OH)

2014: Eric Garner (New York, NY)

2014: Yvette Smith (Bastrop, TX)

2014: Jordan Baker (Houston, TX)

2013: Barrington Williams (New York, NY)

2013: Carlos Alcis (New York, NY)

2013: Deion Fludd (New York, NY)

2013: Jonathan Ferrell (Bradfield Farms, NC)

2013: Kimani Gray (New York, NY)

2013: Kyam Livingstone (New York, NY)

2013: Larry Eugene Jackson, Jr. (Austin, TX)

2013: Miriam Carey (Washington, DC)

2012: Chavis Carter (Jonesboro, AR)

2012: Dante Price (Dayton, OH)

2012: Duane Brown (New York, NY)

2012: Ervin Jefferson (Atlanta, GA)

2012: Jersey Green (Aurora, IL)

2012: Johnnnie Kamahi Warren (Dotham, AL)

2012: Justin Slipp (New Orleans, LA)

2012: Kendrec McDade (Pasadena, CA)

2012: Malissa Williams (Cleveland, OH)

2012: Nehemiah Dillard (Gainesville, FL)

2012: Ramarley Graham (New York, NY)

2012: Raymond Allen (Galveston, TX)

2012: Rekia Boyd (Chicago, IL)

2012: Reynaldo Cuevas (New York, NY)

2012: Robert Dumas Jr (Cleveland, OH)

2012: Sgt. Manuel Loggins Jr (Orange County, CA)

2012: Shantel Davis (New York, NY)

2012: Sharmel Edwards (Las Vegas, NV)

2012: Shereese Francis (New York, NY)

2012: Tamon Robinson (New York, NY)

2012: Timothy Russell (Cleveland, OH)

2012: Wendell Allen (New Orleans, LA)

2011: Alonzo Ashley (Denver, CO)

2011: Jimmell Cannon (Chicago, IL)

2011: Kenneth Chamberlain (White Plains, NY)

2011: Kenneth Harding (San Francisco, CA)

2011: Raheim Brown (Oakland, CA)

2011: Reginald Doucet (Los Angeles, CA)

2010: Aaron Campbell (Portland, OR)

2010: Aiyana Jones (Detroit, MI)

2010: Danroy Henry (Thornwood, NY)

2010: Derrick Jones (Oakland, CA)

2010: Steven Eugene Washington (Los Angeles, CA)

2009: Kiwane Carrington (Champaign, IL)

2009: Oscar Grant (Oakland, CA)

2009: Shem Walker (New York, NY)

2009: Victor Steen (Pensacola, FL)

2008: Tarika Wilson (Lima, OH)

2007: DeAunta Terrel Farrow (West Memphis, AR)

2006: Sean Bell (New York, NY)

2005: Henry Glover (New Orleans, LA)

2005: James Brisette (New Orleans, LA)

2005: Ronald Madison (New Orleans, LA)

2004: Timothy Stansbury (New York, NY)

2003: Alberta Spruill (New York, NY)

2003: Orlando Barlow (Las Vegas, NV)

2003: Ousmane Zongo (New York, NY)

2001: Timothy Thomas (Cincinnati, OH)

2000: Earl Murray (Dellwood, MO)

2000: Malcolm Ferguson (New York, NY)

2000: Patrick Dorismond (New York, NY)

2000: Prince Jones (Fairfax County, VA)

2000: Ronald Beasley (Dellwood, MO)

1999: Amadou Diallo (New York, NY)

1994: Nicholas Heyward Jr. (New York, NY)

1992: Malice Green (Detroit, MI)

1985: Edmund Perry (New York, NY)

1984: Eleanor Bumpurs (New York, NY)

1983: Michael Stewart (New York, NY)

1981: Ron Settles (Signal Hill, CA)

1979: Eula Love (Los Angeles, CA)

1969: Mark Clark (Chicago, IL)

1969: Fred Hampton (Chicago, IL)

1964: James Powell (New York, NY)

a lot of those are really shitty sources, nice try though.

 

[cornholio]

a lot of those are really shitty sources, nice try though.

i find the most credible one to be "lorenabobbit.tumblr.com"

 

[987321654hgfd]

THE VIDEO OF "MIKE" ASSAULTING A CLERK IS NOT EVEN OF HIM, NOT EVEN FILMED THE SAME MONTH

You don't actually believe this do you?

Did you read about this on infowars?

 

[saskskier]

that "bruise" on his face hasn't healed one bit in over 4 months.

1) “I never touched him” Michael Brown’s blood was found on his gun, on his shirt collar, and on his own pants

2) “After the incident I called for help” His body was laying in the middle of the street for four and a half hours

3) “I didn’t go for my mace because I didn’t know if it would even work on him” …What the fuck

4) “He handed me the cigarillos and said ‘Here, take this’ at which point I grabbed his wrist to control him somehow” OH OK

5) “I didn’t carry a taser so that was out of the question” “Why not” “Because we only have one available in the entire police department” UM

http://writeinblack.tumblr.com/post/103529172491/im-handing-out-full-plates-of-shut-the-fuck-up
http://lorenabobbit.tumblr.com/post/103528560896

=UUvsye7V9psc-APX6wV1twLg
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/sh...mendment-ill-lock-ass-up-arrests-man-filming/
http://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...4-8593-da634b334390_story.html?wpmk=MK0000203
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/10/21/1337729/-15-Questions-for-Darren-Wilson
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/...eir-story-about-the-murder-of-VonDerrit-Myers
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/05/ferguson-chief-lied-about-michael-brown-tape_n_5773420.html
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...erguson-cops-were-caught-in-a-bloody-lie.html

yeah the Ferguson PD are real straight shooters when it comes to unarmed citizens. and newschoolers has a fucking clue. there were zero homicides all year in Ferguson until Mike Brown, and they turned it into a police state. this is why black people hate cops.

2014: Victor White III (Iberia Parish, LA)

2014: Dante Parker (San Bernardino County, CA)

2014: Ezell Ford (Los Angeles, CA)

2014: Michael Brown (Ferguson, MO)

2014: Tyree Woodson (Baltimore, MD)

2014: John Crawford III (Beavercreek, OH)

2014: Eric Garner (New York, NY)

2014: Yvette Smith (Bastrop, TX)

2014: Jordan Baker (Houston, TX)

2013: Barrington Williams (New York, NY)

2013: Carlos Alcis (New York, NY)

2013: Deion Fludd (New York, NY)

2013: Jonathan Ferrell (Bradfield Farms, NC)

2013: Kimani Gray (New York, NY)

2013: Kyam Livingstone (New York, NY)

2013: Larry Eugene Jackson, Jr. (Austin, TX)

2013: Miriam Carey (Washington, DC)

2012: Chavis Carter (Jonesboro, AR)

2012: Dante Price (Dayton, OH)

2012: Duane Brown (New York, NY)

2012: Ervin Jefferson (Atlanta, GA)

2012: Jersey Green (Aurora, IL)

2012: Johnnnie Kamahi Warren (Dotham, AL)

2012: Justin Slipp (New Orleans, LA)

2012: Kendrec McDade (Pasadena, CA)

2012: Malissa Williams (Cleveland, OH)

2012: Nehemiah Dillard (Gainesville, FL)

2012: Ramarley Graham (New York, NY)

2012: Raymond Allen (Galveston, TX)

2012: Rekia Boyd (Chicago, IL)

2012: Reynaldo Cuevas (New York, NY)

2012: Robert Dumas Jr (Cleveland, OH)

2012: Sgt. Manuel Loggins Jr (Orange County, CA)

2012: Shantel Davis (New York, NY)

2012: Sharmel Edwards (Las Vegas, NV)

2012: Shereese Francis (New York, NY)

2012: Tamon Robinson (New York, NY)

2012: Timothy Russell (Cleveland, OH)

2012: Wendell Allen (New Orleans, LA)

2011: Alonzo Ashley (Denver, CO)

2011: Jimmell Cannon (Chicago, IL)

2011: Kenneth Chamberlain (White Plains, NY)

2011: Kenneth Harding (San Francisco, CA)

2011: Raheim Brown (Oakland, CA)

2011: Reginald Doucet (Los Angeles, CA)

2010: Aaron Campbell (Portland, OR)

2010: Aiyana Jones (Detroit, MI)

2010: Danroy Henry (Thornwood, NY)

2010: Derrick Jones (Oakland, CA)

2010: Steven Eugene Washington (Los Angeles, CA)

2009: Kiwane Carrington (Champaign, IL)

2009: Oscar Grant (Oakland, CA)

2009: Shem Walker (New York, NY)

2009: Victor Steen (Pensacola, FL)

2008: Tarika Wilson (Lima, OH)

2007: DeAunta Terrel Farrow (West Memphis, AR)

2006: Sean Bell (New York, NY)

2005: Henry Glover (New Orleans, LA)

2005: James Brisette (New Orleans, LA)

2005: Ronald Madison (New Orleans, LA)

2004: Timothy Stansbury (New York, NY)

2003: Alberta Spruill (New York, NY)

2003: Orlando Barlow (Las Vegas, NV)

2003: Ousmane Zongo (New York, NY)

2001: Timothy Thomas (Cincinnati, OH)

2000: Earl Murray (Dellwood, MO)

2000: Malcolm Ferguson (New York, NY)

2000: Patrick Dorismond (New York, NY)

2000: Prince Jones (Fairfax County, VA)

2000: Ronald Beasley (Dellwood, MO)

1999: Amadou Diallo (New York, NY)

1994: Nicholas Heyward Jr. (New York, NY)

1992: Malice Green (Detroit, MI)

1985: Edmund Perry (New York, NY)

1984: Eleanor Bumpurs (New York, NY)

1983: Michael Stewart (New York, NY)

1981: Ron Settles (Signal Hill, CA)

1979: Eula Love (Los Angeles, CA)

1969: Mark Clark (Chicago, IL)

1969: Fred Hampton (Chicago, IL)

1964: James Powell (New York, NY)

What is this list of names? Providing names without context breeds ignorance.

Recently in Alberta, a list of children who died while in the care of social services was released. It created huge outrage and criticism by the general public against the organization I work for and the people who do amazing work every day.

What wasn't released what the fact that a huge number of these kids were medically fragile (ie - serious, serious medical issues with low percentage of survival), some were SIDS (sudden infant death syndrome. Nothing you can do about that one), a few were suicides and only a few were actually a result of caregiver neglect (and appropriate steps were taken as a result). All had better care in foster care (with the exception of a few) than at home with their parents (who weren't feeding them, beating them, sexually abusing them, emotionally abusing them, etc). None of that was shared with the public. The media interviewed parents who gave sob stories about their kids being taken away for no reason and we aren't allowed to provide information about cases (confidentiality). It was brutal. People seem to think we take peoples kids away from them just because we get off on it. The only time kids are removed is when they aren't safe at home.

What I'm getting at, is you can provide a list of names and say what happened, but leave out a ton of important information to give some context to each story.

 

[SpookyCat]

Them living in complete poverty is entirely and 100% their bloody faults. Take a town like Attiwapiskat, about the shittiest place outside Haiti in the Americas. The federal government pumps millions and millions of dollars into these small towns (something like 50 million over a decade for a town with only a few hundred people) and they mismanage the money so so so so poorly that they end up being worse off then they were a decade previously. Then the government says "ok well you fucked up let's send in auditors to see where the money went" and they refuse to let anyone look at their books for where they spent taxpayer money.

Its hard to manage money or to know how to succeed when you were never given a chance at a proper education that teaches you all those things. Throwing money at a problem never solves it.

This thread is full of so much racism and ignorance that its mind-blowing. Read through and count how many times kids refer to people with dark skin as "the blacks" or "blacks". Yeah, not racist at all.

 

[Barefootin_Fiend]

This thread is full of so much racism and ignorance that its mind-blowing. Read through and count how many times kids refer to people with dark skin as "the blacks" or "blacks". Yeah, not racist at all.

interesting. at one point in time, just the N bomb was considered racist. now apparently referring to someone as black is racist, too. rip to every adjective in the english language.

 

[987321654hgfd]

Read through and count how many times kids refer to people with dark skin as "the blacks" or "blacks". Yeah, not racist at all.

Calling black people black is not racist.

 

[k-rob]

You don't actually believe this do you?

Did you read about this on infowars?

there's two separate videos of Mike paying for his cigs, i already linked one. the timestamps on the video the police released jump from month to month within frames, and the owner of the store doesn't believe it's a video of Mike nor that Mike stole anything. of course i've only said that like 50 times.

 

[k-rob]

What is this list of names? Providing names without context breeds ignorance.

there's this relatively new thing, it's called Google, it's a website where you could type any of those names in and find out for yourself what it's a list of.

 

[k-rob]

a lot of those are really shitty sources, nice try though.

yeah dude, eyewitness and forensic pathologists, just the worst.

 

[SFB]

yeah dude, eyewitness and forensic pathologists, just the worst.

you linked tumblr pages along with other uncredible sources, not all the sources you threw up in that wall of text were shitty. using good sources along side false ones doesnt make it credible

 

[SFB]

yeah dude, eyewitness and forensic pathologists, just the worst.

you linked tumblr pages along with other uncredible sources, not all the sources you threw up in that wall of text were shitty. using good sources along side false ones doesnt make it credible

 

[k-rob]

I'm not one to be sympathetic at all towards police, but come on, killing, burning shit, looting, basically destroying the fucking town, only gives police reason to use excessive force. protesting police racism/brutality by giving them very good reasons to be racist and brutal is pretty counter productive. if it were all peaceful protests, then yes, you can criticize the scummy loser cops, but when violent protests are a daily occurrence, its just justifying the police's action.

you know full well that if the police were killing people they wouldn't just say so, but at least 2 witnesses have been found dead since November, one shot and burned in his car, Deandre Joshua, and one found dead in a channel named Shawn Gray (manner and cause of death pending autopsy).

who's instigating who is entirely up to personal opinion at this point, but seeing as how the cops showed up to peaceful protests wearing riot gear and firing weapons, i'm going with them. also they aren't the ones cleaning up the day after, the citizens are. there is never a good reason to be racist or brutal, especially if you're an armed and trained police officer, so idk how that came out of your head, especially since you already said racist cops aren't a problem.

 

[k-rob]

you linked tumblr pages along with other uncredible sources, not all the sources you threw up in that wall of text were shitty. using good sources along side false ones doesnt make it credible

of course the only good source in a case where the police killed an unarmed man is the police themselves.

 

[k-rob]

an unarmed man

sorry, *boy

 

[SpookyCat]

Calling black people black is not racist.

How idiotic are you dummies? Your not calling them black. "That man who is black" is calling a man black. "That black guy" or "Blackie" is a direct reference to the color of his skin which shouldn't fucking matter. People claim they're not racist but there's a shit ton of underlying racism going on in this thread. Talk about how poverty and segregation ghettos resulting from the previous times is affecting a group of people. People who are stuck in a community with only other people who are starting from nothing. No access to good education or healthcare, only to minimum wage, chain-shop jobs. Most don't know about the government assistant programs to allow them a chance at a higher education.

That happens no matter what color skin you are but there just so happens in every major city a large population of minorities that were literally herded into the ghettos through selective real estate laws. Prejudice is still very prevalent and the kids who bring up stats about which person of which color skin commits more crime against other blah blah bullshit, read up on the stats about who earns more on average and how much more likely a person with white skin will get a job over a person with black skin.

Fucking shameful.

 

[JGWI]

How idiotic are you dummies? Your not calling them black. "That man who is black" is calling a man black. "That black guy" or "Blackie" is a direct reference to the color of his skin which shouldn't fucking matter. People claim they're not racist but there's a shit ton of underlying racism going on in this thread. Talk about how poverty and segregation ghettos resulting from the previous times is affecting a group of people. People who are stuck in a community with only other people who are starting from nothing. No access to good education or healthcare, only to minimum wage, chain-shop jobs. Most don't know about the government assistant programs to allow them a chance at a higher education.

That happens no matter what color skin you are but there just so happens in every major city a large population of minorities that were literally herded into the ghettos through selective real estate laws. Prejudice is still very prevalent and the kids who bring up stats about which person of which color skin commits more crime against other blah blah bullshit, read up on the stats about who earns more on average and how much more likely a person with white skin will get a job over a person with black skin.

Fucking shameful.

I agree with everything you said except

"Most don't know about the government assistant programs to allow them a chance at a higher education."

Most wouldnt go even if they were given a free ride. And I blame that on a lack of decent education and leadership at a family, local, state, and national level.

 

[k-rob]

try to find the context.

 

[plyswthsqrrls]

of course the only good source in a case where the police killed an unarmed man is the police themselves.

did you just ignore my reply to your list of "issues" with this case?

if you could maybe just put race aside for a moment here and consider the fact that a man assaulted a police officer after failing to comply with a reasonable request to get out of the middle of the road, tried to take his gun, and was killed, you might realize that there was no crime committed.

and yes, michael brown was a man. he was old enough to vote, old enough to graduate high school, and old enough to realize you don't go toe to toe with a cop. he wasn't a defenceless child, he was not a saint, nor a martyr. he was a man who made a few really poor decisions on that day and he paid the price. it sucks that it had to happen, but it did have to happen.

if the situation was reversed, if he had wrestled the gun away from officer wilson and killed him, would that be a better result in your eyes?

say what you want about wilson, call him a coward, whatever. he was a respected police officer with a spotless employment record (yes, his department got shut down because of some issues within the community, but he was one of only a few officers brought on to the new department because of his record), and absolutely zero known / recorded history with any racist groups. he did his job to the best of his ability for the entire time he was a cop (look it up, you love google), and now his career is over because of this incident. the sacrifices he made and will continue to make are beyond any of our comprehension. he knew when he pulled the trigger that it meant taking someone's life, and he did so because it was his job. plain and simple

 

[k-rob]

did you just ignore my reply to your list of "issues" with this case?

if you could maybe just put race aside for a moment here and consider the fact that a man assaulted a police officer after failing to comply with a reasonable request to get out of the middle of the road, tried to take his gun, and was killed, you might realize that there was no crime committed.

and yes, michael brown was a man. he was old enough to vote, old enough to graduate high school, and old enough to realize you don't go toe to toe with a cop. he wasn't a defenceless child, he was not a saint, nor a martyr. he was a man who made a few really poor decisions on that day and he paid the price. it sucks that it had to happen, but it did have to happen.

if the situation was reversed, if he had wrestled the gun away from officer wilson and killed him, would that be a better result in your eyes?

say what you want about wilson, call him a coward, whatever. he was a respected police officer with a spotless employment record (yes, his department got shut down because of some issues within the community, but he was one of only a few officers brought on to the new department because of his record), and absolutely zero known / recorded history with any racist groups. he did his job to the best of his ability for the entire time he was a cop (look it up, you love google), and now his career is over because of this incident. the sacrifices he made and will continue to make are beyond any of our comprehension. he knew when he pulled the trigger that it meant taking someone's life, and he did so because it was his job. plain and simple

didn't a post a vid of him breaking some guys first amendment rights? or was that just one of the ones i thought you'd be able to find for yourself?

 

[plyswthsqrrls]

didn't a post a vid of him breaking some guys first amendment rights? or was that just one of the ones i thought you'd be able to find for yourself?

lol no you didn't post a vid of that, would love to see it though