Judge Beats His Daughter for Downloading Music

seems like a statistical result that "spanking" is more common in the US than over here.

not like i talk too much with anybody about that, but its my impression

all this "i had this and that and still got a good person". its not like you would be a totally different person.

the fact remains that you fear the spanking and not the reason for the spanking. and from when on can a kid distinguish between right and wrong effectively?

bullshit. a fuckin relict of the 1800s or so.

 
You might change your mind when you actually have them. Not saying you will, but its much different when they're physically there and not just a figment of your imagination. And you might find that you're able to raise them without having to lay a hand on them.
 
I think the problem is your failing to see the line between a spanking and what happened in the video above.

I never said they gave me a little pat on the ass, they hit me pretty hard but they did relentlessly beat me. It also wasnt for shit like downloading something illegal (mind you i wasnt downloading anything when i was at the age where i was getting spanked) it was for me doing stupid stupid things. Im going to be honest i was a little shit head when i was a kid, if i saw a kid behaving like i did sometimes id say hell yea give him a spanking. I can remember a few times specifically where my parents would threaten to take away my gameboy or my N64 (two things that i loved by the way) and i would be so angry in my tantrum that i just would not give two shits, at that point i would get a spanking and that would usually do the trick. And the punishments of no tv or video games would remain after the spanking was given. Eventually i learnt to just avoid the spanking and straighten up when my parents told me the first time.

I literally had a hard time watching that video, to be honest i fast forwarded alot of it because i couldnt stand watching the girl get treated like that.

I just disagree when you say hitting a kid is wrong no matter what, a spank or a little slap on the back of the head has it place. What happened above does not.

I honestly just think your being stubborn in your point of view. You and i were raised in different ways and as such our opinions on things are going to differ. I just think you would love your parents just as much as you do now if they had spanked you as a kid. Also i think the reason you think hitting a kid is soo "twisted" is because you were never spanked as a kid, had you been im certain you would realize that its not that bad.

***please for the record realize that im not advocating anything along the lines of the video***
 
lol @ crying like little bitch comment.

it was over 20 years ago bro. spanking a 6 year olds ass, of course im gonna cry.

just cause your fuckin wrong dosnt make me a bitch.

dont spank your kids, thats fine by me. but when they grow up to be like you, not being able to carry on a debate without insulting and putting down a person who disagree's with them, ill be right there to spank them for you. pussy.
 
idk what was so "crying like little bitch comment", it was kinda neutral.

and to all of you who got spanked and think its great to do so, just open your mind a little. i did too and wondered if physical punishment would be better than psychological pressure. maybe thats the case but WHY DONT USE EITHER?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporal_punishment

look at the pictures in the link. its really a cultural thing. you americans have all that old-testament/protestant stuff more in your mind.

crazy how teachers in a lot of states are allowed to dish out physical punishment, when in a lot of european states, it is even forbidden for parents to do so.

say what you want, but europe is ahead of america by 100 years in that department.

http://www.endcorporalpunishment.org/pages/research/effects.html

from that link:

Based on an extensive review of research, the Joint Statement provides an overview of the developmental outcomes associated with the use of corporal punishment: "The evidence is clear and compelling - physical punishment of children and youth plays no useful role in their upbringing and poses only risks to their development. The conclusion is equally compelling - parents should be strongly encouraged to develop alternative and positive approaches to discipline".
 
and......... if you bothered to check my profile before you generalized americans as spankers, you would notice......... wait for it........ that i am....... born in raised in........ toronto.

making me canadian eh.

spankings not cultural. it dosnt only happen in america.
 
cultural is maybe the wrong word.

what i wanted to say is that it is (or better, its non-existence), to me, a sign of advanced civilization. for example, in canada, physical punishment is not allowed in schools.

i dont even care THAT much about the parents-kids relation, but teachers spanking kids is 1920 at its finest.

i know its utopic to think of a world without violence. but it is possible, and anyone with a gram of brain mass knows that violence never solved a problem. and this is starting at the education of kids.

i know you wouldnt call it violence but "spanking", but thats really only a terminology thing.

everyone has to do what he thinks he wants to, but i think that humanity has come a long way and when you look at those countries' reputations: sweden, germany, norway, austria. i think that its saying something when they outlaw parental physical punishments.

http://www.endcorporalpunishment.org/pages/progress/prohib_states.html

http://www.philforhumanity.com/Corporal_Punishment.html
 
now i agree with you.

however were not really talking about teachers spanking kids. thats a crime. period.

no one touches my kids, regardless.

physical abuse. also a crime.

spanking, not a crime.

also, just because many european countries have outlawed physical punishments does not mean that those outlaws necessarily get followed.

i know for a fact that smoking marijuana in north america is illegal, and yet a hefty percent of the population still participates in routinely smoking it.

technically downloading music is illegal, yet as we found out in this video, people still do it.

advancment to me is not just simply having a rule in place, it is society actually understanding and following that rule.
 
that is right. and from my experience and what i read on here, its actually less common than in north america.

but to me, laws have some sort of signal function, regardless of whether or not they are obeyed or not. its not a surprise that southern states in the US still allow teachers spanking kids.

with the same reasoning and taking into account what france stands for, it was a surprise to see that france allows teachers that too.

and for who are more on my side, i would like to put out again that psychological pressure might also result in severe problems as an adult. its also some sort of violence and just because you didnt get beaten, it doesnt mean that there was everything alright.

to end this: my opinion is that you shouldnt spank kids. educating them and requiring them to recognize wrong and right by themselves and not relying on an external institution (parents) to do so would be "my" recipe. although i guess that if someone does it consequently, and is not using that as a starting point for harder/tougher punishments in the future and is not doing it because he thinks its fun, then i have not that big of a problem.
 
that was hard to watch. I can't believe some of the comments in here though. People can't believe she didn't fight back, she deserved it because it's her parents?

Getting beaten with a belt repeatedly and told to "take it like a grown woman" by both parents is not "punishment" that's abuse. Parents are supposed to teach you and nurture you, not scare you and beat you into submission over downloading something. She's 16, not a child. For people saying they were spanked as a child and turned out fine, how old were you when you were spanked? 16? I don't think so. Spanking is one thing [and i have nothing against it] , but beating is another. If he's already whipping her repeatedly with a belt what's to stop him from slamming his fist into her face one day?

I can understand where she's coming from, videotaping this and making it viral. after years of being beaten, she's obviously physically incapable to stand up to him, why not show the world who he really is? ruin his life. These are the people we're supposed to grow up respecting and admire, they're supposed to protect us.
 
line between abuse and discipline of a child is not becoming in question here its that this judge a guy who is supposed to be handing out punishment loses his temper like a 4 year old

 
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