Judge Beats His Daughter for Downloading Music

there should never be a time where you have to distinguish between punishment and abuse when it comes to hitting your kids.
 
someone should look up his track record with sentencing people that abuse others. if hes ok with a simple sorry i lost my temper, that should be good enough in his court room. but i bet he throws out jail time like nobods business.

 
well now were just putting words in my mouth.

i said he "spanked the shit out of me" not "he beat the shit of me".

i didnt do it again because i was spanked for it. which is the purpose of desciplining somebody in the first place no?

i agree, we probably both learned lessons. your parents did it one way, my parents did it another.

its not like my parents solely spanked me and that was it in terms of discipline. my folks also played "mind games" with me (although i would never call it mind games, cause its a lesson, not a mind game). i often missed hockey tournaments for poor marks at school, detentions, etc.

my mom didnt hit me with a spoon and say ok, your free to go to whatever the fuck you want again. i got hit with a spoon, then your so called "mind games" began.

again, i never said my parents love me more then other peoples parents because they spanked me. i said my parents spanked me because they loved me. if they didnt love me and didnt give a fuck about me they would discipline me period, cause they dont care.

so my parents are "twisted" for spanking me? well that must make your parents "fuckin pussies" for not spanking you. see the circle were going in here? neither of our parents are right or wrong. they have a different way of doing things which evidently led to the same conclusion. but do me a favor, refrain from calling my parents "twisted". theyre my parents, you have never met them, so dont for a second think you have a right to judge them.

is that a serious question? how is saying "because its not their kid" not a reasonable answer? its the only answer. babysitters are hired to baby sit, if the kid acts up while they are sitting you report it to the parents, and they handle disciplining how they see fit. same reason teachers couldnt spank me for getting a F or throwing erasers in class. imagine we could all just go around physically disciplining eachother? i would have more black eyes and red bum cheeks then i would know what to do with. kids are the sole responsibility of their parents, and no one else.

again, i read your posts, hence why im responding.

your calling me out for saying i got spanked, so therefore i should think this video is normal behaviour??

when i acted up i got (figure of speech) the shit spanked out of me, not whipped repeatedly with a fuckin belt.

how in hell are you struggling to comprehend the difference between that and what happens in this video?
 
haha seriously, are you and phaeded retarded or 15? my off the cuff post didnt use anything remotely resembling an impressive sentence structure, or any big words. are your minds so feeble that my run on sentences and middle school level words were confusing to you?

maybe if you had something intelligent to respond with you wouldnt have to pretend that my post contained anything more than simple, easy to understand sentences. next time, just politely ask and ill be happy to dumb it down another couple shades so that you and other morons can read it without breaking a sweat. that work?
 
This was on msn.com just now:

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/45146961/ns/today-today_people/t/daughter-beating-video-why-i-released-it

disturbing viral video, taken 7 years ago and posted on YouTube last week by the daughter of a Texas judge, has turned a family’s private pain into a wave of public outcry.

..The 7 ½-minute video, uploaded by 23-year-old Hillary Adams, shows Aransas County Court-at-Law Judge William Adams viciously whipping his then-16-year-old daughter with a strap.

It also depicts Hillary's mother, Hallie, participating. Both women spoke exclusively with Matt Lauer on TODAY Thursday about the furor the video has caused and the reasons for posting it seven years after it was taken.

Although the 5-year statute of limitations for charges of bodily injury to a child most likely means criminal charges will not be filed, the video could potentially result in Judge Adams' removal from the bench. A police investigation into whether the beating was criminal has been opened by the local police at the district attorney’s request.

“I’ve experienced everything from crying about it to almost just laughing,’’ Hillary told TODAY. “I’ve just experienced so many emotions. Sometimes it’s like reliving it, and sometimes it’s like watching it from a completely different point of view. It’s really impossible to put all of that into words.

Story: Judge's daughter: Hope beating video gets him help

“I think (my father) has been punished enough just by seeing this go public like this, and I think he just really needs help and rehabilitation," she said. "I regret that some of my friends and some people close to me have kind of had trouble with this, and of course, I regret that it’s my own father. I’m having very mixed feelings about that, but at the same time people are telling me that I did the right thing, so there have been definitely different emotions.’’

On the day of the beating, Hillary, who has cerebral palsy, was caught by her parents downloading illegal music off the Internet. Such extreme discipline at the hands of her father occurred regularly, she claimed, so she secretly set up a camera on her dresser and covered the red "on" light with a scarf. Half an hour later, she received the punishment that is shown on YouTube, as her father repeatedly barks, “Bend over the bed!’’ amidst an expletive-filled rant. He beats her with a leather switch on the legs, arms and buttocks while she cries out.

At one point, Hallie, who divorced Judge Adams four years ago, also smacks Hillary with the strap while saying, “You turn over like a 16-year-old and take it, like a grown woman!’’

"As a parent, I feel like a failure," Hallie Adams said on an msnbc appearance. She said when she saw the video for the first time this past weekend, she considered taking her own life. She also alleged that her former husband was "severely addicted" to painkillers and opiates.

Hallie defended her participation in the incident, saying that her husband's physical and emotional abuse had “brainwashed’’ her.

She left her husband, she told TODAY, when Hillary was six months old, but he convinced her to return. She told him to stop texting and contacting her this past June, she claimed, and added that he has threatened to have her younger daughter removed from her custody.

“I lived in an environment of dysfunction, and it steadily got worse,’’ Hallie said. “I was completely brainwashed and controlled. I did every single thing that he did. When I leave the room, he’s telling me what to say, what to do.’’

In an interview with a local news affiliate, Judge Adams responded to questions about the video and the claims of his wife and daughter.

“In my mind, I haven’t done anything wrong other than discipline my child after she was caught stealing,’’ he said. “I did lose my temper, but I have since apologized. It looks worse than it is. There is a story. It will come out in due time.’’

“I think the story that’s going to come out in due time in his mind is that he has projected his problem on to me,’’ Hallie told TODAY. “For the entire four years since I’ve left the marriage, I’ve been abused and harassed with texts (and) emails.’’

Hillary held on to the video for seven years until a series of small disputes with her father led her to post it on the site Reddit. It quickly went viral.

“I waited seven years because back then I was still a minor and living under his roof and releasing it then, I don’t know what would’ve happened to me and my mother and my little sister,’’ Hillary said. “So waiting until today, seven years later, was about me being able to pull away and distance myself from the consequences.

“It was the straw that broke the camel’s back. It wasn’t any huge happening. I told him I had the video, and he didn’t seem to think anything of it and basically dared me to post it.’’

Reddit’s members launched a campaign, pranking the judge by ordering pizzas to his home and posting numbers for local law enforcement and media outlets to gain more attention for the video. Once it hit YouTube, it exploded across the web, receiving more than 1.6 million views in just over a day. The local sheriff’s office has launched an investigation and a Facebook page has popped up calling for people to vote down Judge Adams in the next election, which will take place in three years. Police in the family’s hometown of Rockport, about 200 miles south of Houston, have also been swamped with calls from all over the world looking for them to take action.

“Judge William Adams is not fit to be anywhere near the law system if he can’t even exercise fit judgment as a parent himself,’’ a note on the video reads.

“I think wishing anybody to lose their job is not a really good thing to do,’’ Hillary said. “His being fit for the job, that’s something that I really can’t say that he is.’’

Judge Adams, who routinely rules on cases involving children, has left Rockport, according to police. All of his scheduled hearings have been cancelled, according to a notice in the courthouse. When he does return, a visiting judge will handle any cases involving children for now, according to court officials.

Hillary, who lives on her own, has reconciled with her mother.

“We’re very close now, and when I showed her the video, she started crying and hasn’t stopped apologizing,’’ Hillary said. “I forgive her because she knows everything that happened.’’

 
seriously.

and asking me to shut the fuck up. way to add to the conversation. just cause its over your head dosnt mean the rest of us should not talk.

im sure there is a mindless meme thread somewhere you would enjoy.
 
One only uses commas, the other only uses periods. What do they both have in common? A love for me.
 
hey.

you.

ya, you.

youre awesome. you know that?

just straight up, 100% awesome.

like seriously, totally awesome.

god youre just so awesome.
 
i honestly hate newschoolers.

back to the topic

THAT CHICK HAD CEREBRAL PALSY. holy shit, what kind of man beats a teenage GIRL with such a serious disability??
 
here, i'll keep this to short, easy to digest sentences. i'm sorry that you have some lasting internet grudge against me. i'm more sorry that youre too stupid to comprehend simple sentences or respond with anything beyond "shut the fuck up" when you disagree with someone. most of all i'm sorry that i actually ever bother arguing with people who can't handle sentences with commas.. that's obviously my fault
 
DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THAT HITTING A CHILD, WHETHER IT IS FOR PUNISHMENT OR NOT, WHETHER IT IS WITH A HAND OR A BELT, IS WRONG?? you said so yourself, even a hand is considered a weapon.

a child will understand what is right and whats wrong by taking away certain privileges. you dont have to be violent to get the point across, so why do it? to prove your dominance? its a fucking child, get over yourself.

i meant to say parents who spank their parents in general have twisted minds, but yes that was uncalled for. nevertheless i appologize.

just because your parents spanked you, doesnt mean you have to follow in their footsteps. ashley said earlier that she was spanked as a child but she would never spank her kids. and yes i know that can go both ways, but use your judgement. solving something with violence (even with a hand) should never be the answer. there are other ways to get a point across to children, and as you found out in your childhood, taking away privileges works just as well.
 
ya it was on there this morning when this thread was made. im sure this dude is hating his life now hahahaha
 
The most effective punishment my parents ever doled out was when they just looked sad and said they were really disappointed in me, or that I really let them down. That made me feel like a piece of shit and honestly regret whatever I did. Anything else - spanking, grounding, yelling - just made me pissed off and defensive. Not saying thatd work on every kid, but it did for me. Oh and also, my mom used to let me pick my own punishment a lot. Shed say, "What do you think you deserve?" and I had to think about it and come up with something I thought was appropriate. She told me a while ago that 9 times out of 10 I was much harder on mysef than she wouldve been.l
 
no need for caps lock bro... i can read and comprehend in lower case just fine.

i dont think its wrong. sorry, we dont have to agree, but we can be civil about it.

i didnt say a hand is considered a weapon, i said it CAN be considered a weapon. a open handed smack on the bum, is not using a weapon IMO. a closed fisted punch to the face or this case a huge leather belt, CAN be considered a weapon IMO.

people have different ways of doing things, just like children have different ways of learning things. again, i dont think either my parents or your parents were right or wrong. as i mentioned they delt with things in different ways and yet both seemed to reach the same end result. i say good on both of them.

when did i ever say i was going to follow in their footsteps? i didnt.

you assumed that because i was spanked as a child that i will become a spanking parent.

i can not confirm or deny that i will ever spank my kids for several reasons.

mostly, that i need to have a kid to spank in the first place, and secondly i plan to deal with disciplining my kid(s) as it is fit at that time.

im going to agree with you that violence should never be the answer, although i consider a spanking pretty tame, if at all violent. sometimes my girlfriend pinches me when i make fun of her. technically, pinching someone is violence, but when she pinches me i dont consider it a violent act, even though it fucking hurts. if she were to drop kick me in the face though........ catch my drift?

violence shouldnt be the answer, but violence is the answer.

imagine wars were faught with words? instead of shooting at you, ill just take something of yours away and give you a lecture about how what you did was bad.
 
my mom poured liquid soap in my mouth one time... i was a naughty little boy!!

then one time when i was 15 she chased be around the house trying to punch me, my stepdad just stood there and laughed. it was great family fun!
 
caps lock was for emotion. i cannot understand how you think being violent with children is, in any case, acceptable.

comparing war with children is far from a good comparison.

if you think that spanking is an acceptable punishment, why wouldnt you spank your kids in the future (if you intend on having any).

from what youre saying about the pinching, your spankings consisted of a small pat on the ass, but you did say that you always left with a red ass, and you "always cried". that tells me if wasnt just a "pinch", so once again.. non-comparable. if you hadnt left with a red ass or crying everytime, then...

 
What the fuck !" Dont blame the mother she's been emotionaly abused into beating her daughter !" fuck that ! The bitch hit her , she's as guilty as him , I hate that kind of stuff
 
i dont think being violent with children in acceptable. i do think spanking your children is acceptable.

i wasnt comparing war to children. i was using another example of how society uses violence as an answer.

i think coffee is an acceptable beverage, but i still choose not to drink it. just cause i think something is acceptable dosnt mean im going to practice it. just cause my parents spanked me, dosnt mean ill spank mine. even though i dont think there is anything wrong with spanking your kids. i dont understand what you dont understand about this.

again, i wasnt comparing the pinches i receive today to the spanking i received as a child.

i was comparing the "violence" of each act. i do not consider either to be "violent" despite both actions causing pain. im sure if my dad were to spank me today like he did 20+ years ago i would fuckin laugh, but the pinches i get from my gf these days still hurt.
 
Im sorry but look at his position
his daughter being stupid and downloading music illegally puts his job on the line- she gets caught- he loses job.and or reelection, thus leaving the whole family fucked
Yeah he went a little crazy- but if I did something that could get my dad fired, especially something illegal, you bet your ass Id get my ass kicked

And its a belt for christs sakes, maybe if I she was 12 Id say ow- but at 16 that shit doesnt hurt anymore than a rugburn would
 
id be stupid careful however, threatening a judge is usually a federal offense ie investigated by the fbi and associated with a long ass prison term
 
ya i mean i didnt do anything i just saw it on there.

i doubt they are going to be able to do much though, that court office has been getting threatening phone calls and emails all day. they will have to deploy like thousands of FBI agents to work on this. would be a waste of money for some stupid fucked up fat hillbilly like this dude who deserves all the negative shit anyways.
 
well obviously beating his daughter with a belt is going to end up having way worse repercussions in the end than just getting a letter in the mail that says, "we know you illegal downloaded music, this is a warning, STOP."

Dont you think?
 
You have got to be fucking kidding me.

There is a difference between disciplining your child for potentially putting your job on the line and straight up beating the shit out of someone. This was an act of abuse and violence against another person, let alone his own fucking daughter. I am sorry I don't care how old or how much trouble your daughter could possibly get you in (honestly how many people get caught for pirating music?) you don't just beat the shit out of someone and degrade them like that.
 
violence |ˈvī(ə)ləns|

noun

behavior involving physical force intended to hurt, damage, or kill someone or something.

if you cried and your ass was red, it was violent. what is the point of spanking if it does not cause harm ?

when i said "solving something with violence (even with a hand) is never the answer" i was referring to a parent/child relationship, not in every situation throughout the world.
 
ya I got spanked when i was a kid or hit with something but it was like once and it would be over. he hits her on the legs a ton of fucking times then he finally gets her with her stomach on the bed and spanks her ass with the belt more. then she is just sitting at the edge of the bed and starts hitting the front of the legs.

If this is ok behavior to you Wiki, I honestly hope you never have kids.

There is a difference between a spanking and a beating.
 
i will now say this: PSYCHOLOGICAL pressure can also be bad.

imo, you should educate your child as much as possible. tell him/her what was wrong, how it hurt other peoples feelings, etc.

extrinsic motivation in raising kids is not the way to go.
 
as much as I hate to admit it, my parents NOT being involved in my life has been the best thing in the world for me. different parenting works for different people.
 
really?

a dictionary?

Were going to be here a while arnt we?

by dictionary definition yes, my girlfriend pinching me is violent because it does intend to hurt.

maybe i should film her and put it on youtube?
 
Guys the judge is from Texas. What do you expect. I hate to label people because its ignorant, however, My neighbor is like 28 and from Texas and he non-stop verbally abuses his mom. A guy who lives close to my girlfriend yells in a Southern accent at his 4 year-old daughter telling her to shut the fuck up and beats his 16 year old son. Now this? I'm sorry if any one is from Texas on here (though not likely) but I fucking hate stupid hicks. Stop fucking your cousins, beating your family, and shooting innocent people who step on your lawn. seriously. Oh and BTW they are all white trash. What a surprise....
 
LOLOLOLOL

spoiled cumdumspter posted video to get back at her dad for taking away her mercedes:

"Judge Adams told his daughter he was unwilling to continue supporting her financially because the young piano prodigy wasn’t living up to her potential, instead dropping out of school and working part time at a video game store.

“Hillary warned her father if he reduced her financial support and took away her Mercedes automobile, which her father had provided, he would live to regret it,”

massive amounts of fail on both sides
 
Honestly im completely on sewards side for this one. There is a big fucking difference between beating your kid and spanking your kid.

I got spanked by my parents, does this make them twisted? No I think not. If me and my brother were misbehaving to the point where my mom was too fed up, she would threaten to get my dad. Me and my brother both knew very well that if my dad came we would get a good spanking, so you bet your ass we shut our mouhtes and started behaving.

What happened in the video was straight abuse, what my parents and what sewards parents did was on a whole other level than that video (and i mean lesser level)

Your being pretty goddamn stubborn about this whole thing. Yes taking away privileges is also an effective method but a little spank here and there also works. Or you could be like my parents and use a mixture of the two.

Just because your parents used a different method than others does not make them right over everyone else's, just like my parents using their method does not make theirs right either.
 
what i dont understand is if the spanking is hard enough to make you not want to do whatever you did again, then it is violent. you shouldnt hit your kids no matter what the situation.

in sewards case he seems to be telling me that his parents patted him on the ass and he cried like a little bitch everytime, which i dont believe. they had to have hit him hard enough to make him cry. which makes it violent.

i dont know how you guys cant see my point here. it is wrong to hit a child. thats it thats all. you should never have to do it. they are just kids. there are better ways to get your point across besides hitting your kid. i dont care if there is a difference between abusing and disciplining your child, you should never have to distinguish between the two anyways because you should never be in that situation.

dont hit your fucking kids. it doesnt matter how your parents treated you. just because you turned out fine, it doesnt mean its right, and it sure as hell doesnt mean you should condone it in any manner.
 
piece of shit, knows nothing about parenting, thinks he's tough beating his daughter and THIS guy is in charge of judging citizens on their "crimes" and punishing them for it, despicable
 
if i were to ever have been spanked, it would have had to have been a hard fucking spanking because if it didnt actually hurt me, then why the fuck would i be afraid of getting another one. so you guys telling me that your spankings werent violent at all, is absolute bullshit
 
Just dropping in to say that I too, am with Seward with this one. I was spanked as a child too. Hell, I was even spanked with a belt, and a wooden spoon. I don't feel like my parents loved me less than any other kid. As a matter of fact, my parents were some of the most supporting loving people ever. It's just a way to teach a child that their actions have consequences. Ever touched something hot, burned your finger, and learned not to do that? Well, I see spanking as the exact same thing. And do I see myself spanking my kids when I get to that point in my life, I sure do.

Personally, I feel as if all these kids who grew up with time outs and a talking to, are the same kids sitting in some park protesting because their degree in early Aztec literature isn't getting them a 100K job.
 
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