i have the 09 jo's....i love them..i have them center mounted with 09 mojo15's. There are sick an groomers, park and jumps..SUCK in crud and powder( i know there only 77 under foot) but I took them out last saturday (it snowed almost a foot, wet snow though) and they were hard to control and turn. ( once again, I know there not pow skis) but for groomers, park and jumps there awesome. I thought they would be different for landing, there not bad at all..real stable on the landing...