Im on the phone with this navy guy...WTF!

If you are 18 and support the war and you think everything over there is totally worth dieing for, then join the fucking army tomorrow and prove that you really care. If you dont do it, you dont truly believe in fighting overseas then. I am not in the military fyi.
 
you actually gave someone personal information over the phone who claimed to be from the navy?

wow.

I'm waiting for J.D. to find some other big word to describe the situation you've put yourself in
 
Well theres a very select few jobs where the moment you sign you instantly have a paycheck, full medical, and $40,000 for college. I'll give it that. Do your time for 3 or 4 years, then you can write your check when you go for a civilian job. All my friends who went to college have $80k in debt, can't find a job, and have NO cash. After 4 years I had a bachelors, $15k in savings, a job skill, and a job lined up that pays more than my dad's. You don't have to agree with the war to know thats a good deal.
 
heh i went to this "welcome to uni" camp that was supposed to be all about getting pissed & naked, but right at the start we had this "introductory presentation" which was this hour long recruitment propaganda speil from the armed forces. then we all got our camp t-shirts which had "private" on the back and a huge logo of the australian defence force and this bag that had all these books and flyers and shit for the defence force. that shit was low.
 
very valid point ! But personally the risk of getting killed and having to kill people outweighs all of those.
 
of course the military isn't suicidal, I was just stating that you can't call a soldier innocent when he wasn't drafted, even if he only joined for the money aspect, he still had a choice. And we don't have a giant offensive army. I think we have the right size for what we need. And you can't get away with only having a defensive army... you have no way to retaliate...
 
same thing happened to me accept he called and said he wanted to meet me on my lunch break, but all you gotta do is tell them you have asthma and they say it disqualifies you from service
 
You dont have a choice if you dont have money for food. People say it's a volunteer military but society kind-of mandates that many of us join to stay alive or feed our kids. Your chance of dying in a car accident is 1 in 10, so far out of 250,000 rotated troops, 3000 or so are dead, or 1:83. Get a desk job and you won't even smell gunpowder for your whole career, even if you go to iraq.
 
very tru.

but guns are fuckin awesome!

anyway...when my friend came back from iraq he changed ALOT. actually, i have never heard the word fuck used so many times in the same sentence. but he loves it. he still went back when he was checkin vehicles and one blew up right in front of him. it was some serious fucked up shit that he has told me over the past couple of years.

oh and...what girl can resist a MAN in uniform? hahaha. especially a marine.
 
first thing im doin after highschool is goin to the armed forces. if thats your thing go to the dinner with him. if not go anyways, and you can learn a shit load from people like that.
 
wow i would have just hung up on the guy, its like jehova's witness

but i'm not really interested in the army
 
I'm pretty sure the potential for a fatal car accident in the united states is somewhere around 1 to 6500+, so not very likely at all (but still entirely possible). Where the fuck you got 1:10 is beyond me.
 
You are wrong with your major points. You are right though that right now, Iran and north korea aren't dumb enough to attack us. Why? Because we have an army and a very good defense system. So what would happen if we eliminated the thing that keeps our country safe? Hmmmm... n. korea attacks us, and we can't defend ourselfves because we eliminated our armed forces! Now, I think we should pull our troops from Iraq, but i still support them. And sorry, we don't live in a dreamworld where nobody will attack anybody. We need an army. Your opinion is completely unnecessary
 
your a fucking idiot.

read this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_conflict_in_Iraq_since_2003 and tell me all these deaths are justified for oil and the removal of saddam. sure saddam was insane but lets look at the big picture. in 1995 the us allowed the sale of bacillus anthracis(anthrax), Clostridium Botulinum, Histoplasma, Brucella Melitensis, Clostridium Prefringens, all fucking deadly chemicals, but he wasnt a threat then right, totally sane right? we also approved the sale of 1.5 billion dollars worth of dual use technologies which could lead to nuclear weapons adn biological weapons. and lets look at all the other dictators american let be, if you argue we were there to help the people of iraq from a brutal dictatorship. Cambodia w/ Pot Pol. The congo zaire, mobutu, enough said. The us coup put on the lw dem in brazil (joao goulart) which forced a dictator into power and led to 15 fucked up years.
 
maybe if bush subsidized more alternative fuel research and development.. o wait dick cheney would never support that.
 
ask him if he wants to play the tickling game and see how long he stays. but then you might get court martialed. oh well, see what happens.
 
Wow, I don't think the British MOD give a shit about recruiting. They put cool adverts on TV and thats it....we don't get hassled by anyone.
 
Wow, what started as a simple call from the recruiters turned into a controversy. Guys, chill out, it is what it is.

yeah, if he did come, you should have walked up to the door wearing a turban, in a too too or something, with flour or baking powder under your nose......

 
I have a great amount of respect for those in the forces, even if I tend to be more of a pacifist, and I disagree with where this war is headed.
 
Yo, seriously, go see him at his office, that way after you let him give his little talk and you tell him that you have zero interest in the navy you can split and he should leave you alone. If he is in your place, your going to have a harder time getting him to leave.
 
Lol. Read my second post. I state clearly that a defensive army is neccessary, a force of soldiers fighting people who they don't know who the enemies are until they hear the clock ticking on the guy, or the 13 year old boy pulls out an AK-47 and guns them down, is an unneccessary liability to American lives.
 
The point of a defensive army, is to... Defend.

Hence the name. So if the defensive army is doing its job, why would we need to retalliate? The point of an offensive army is to fight somebody whos declared war on us. I don't recall Iraq openly declaring war on us, or any of our allies (except maybe Israel).

And a lot of soldiers are innocent. Like my brother. Haha he's just retarded and decided to join the marines, after 19 years of video games and anime.

He's just lucky he's smart and scored well on the military test thing they take, and got a military computer desk job away from the front line.

The soldiers are basically sitting ducks over there so long as the insurgents remain hidden, and just sneak attack the soldiers. I read an article recently stating that soldiers used to bring candy to give to the children, but now they are training young boys and arming them, so its now dangerous to even feed them. This isn't a traditional war, and doesn't deserve a traditional army to fight it. If you want soldiers over there maintaining order, protect them better somehow at least!
 
I very rarely will say anything disagreeing with a person with a pink name, but I figure you probably drive a pickup truck with a huge confeterate flag sticker on the back window, and after reading what you said throughout the thread, and especialy this little number, I must disregard everything you say. yous ignant.

Anyways, since the thread has trailed off a bit from where it started, the guy on the phone sounds like a serious shadeball, definetly give us an update seing as how tommorow, well actually today, is monday
 
right about the pick-up...very wrong about the flag. let's see...i have a lost surfboards sticker, a winchester sticker, and a fox racing sticker.

i'm ignorant for sayin that guns are good? and saying pretty much nothing?

i have a shotgun in my truck. i have a 38 in my room. i am goin to protect myself and if you're lucky you too, while you are hiding in the closet.

 
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