I weigh about 150 and and advanced skier, is 9 din to much?
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7springsprod
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Theres probably no need for you to have an 18 din binding.
50Kal
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What type of skiing are you doing? Whats your level? Who is the shumck that told you to buy a 18 din all metal binding when your only an advanced skier?
The fact that your asking if you need a FKS is proof that you dont need it. Unless your a super unknown ripper in NJ that hit 60 ft cliffs on a daily basis or hitting 80 money booters, you dont need that burly of a binding. Period.
If you have already mounted a ski with it, you should think about taking it off and putting something else on. If you haven't mounted it return it or sell it. you dont need something that burly.
But like I said I dont know you. Maybe you are a pro park rider who needs a all metal binding with it cranked to 18 din.
From what I'm hearing you should consider getting something different. Here are two bindings you should consider.
http://www.evo.com/alpine-ski-bindings/rossignol-axial2-120-l-90mm-brakes.aspx
http://www.evo.com/alpine-ski-bindings/salomon-z12-ti-90mm-brakes.aspx
If you want somthing a little more Burly then these two go to the Salomon STH 12 Driver. Same thing as above but lot more metal.
The fact that your asking if you need a FKS is proof that you dont need it. Unless your a super unknown ripper in NJ that hit 60 ft cliffs on a daily basis or hitting 80 money booters, you dont need that burly of a binding. Period.
If you have already mounted a ski with it, you should think about taking it off and putting something else on. If you haven't mounted it return it or sell it. you dont need something that burly.
But like I said I dont know you. Maybe you are a pro park rider who needs a all metal binding with it cranked to 18 din.
From what I'm hearing you should consider getting something different. Here are two bindings you should consider.
http://www.evo.com/alpine-ski-bindings/rossignol-axial2-120-l-90mm-brakes.aspx
http://www.evo.com/alpine-ski-bindings/salomon-z12-ti-90mm-brakes.aspx
If you want somthing a little more Burly then these two go to the Salomon STH 12 Driver. Same thing as above but lot more metal.
NoSkillsCrew
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A 12 din binding would be the most appropriate for you. A din of 8/9 is smack dab in the middle of the typical 12 din scale. I am a 150 aggressive rider and my daily din is 9. I would hardily suggest as said before ditching FKS 18's. Many a dbag that doesnt need them push them because they are one of the most expensive bindings. If a shop pushes an 18 din binding on you again. Never return.
VD.
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OP as mentioned above it sounds like you'd be much better suited to a 12din binding. You might wan't to look at the STH12 Driver, make sure you look at the Driver toe not the oversize,Axial2 120/PX12 and also if you can find them the 10-11 Marker Griffon which do contain some metal. My favortie 12 din has been the Rossignol Axial2 120/ Look PX12, check the review link below.
http://aslansskiblog.blogspot.co.uk/2012/08/rossignol-axial2-120-ski-binding-review.html
http://aslansskiblog.blogspot.co.uk/2012/08/rossignol-axial2-120-ski-binding-review.html
NoSkillsCrew
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PX 12's for life!
Gmart
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I'm only like ten pounds heavier, but I have a big foot, so on a din chart I come to like a 6.5 but I just bought fks 14, there's no need for the 18' I'm never gonna come close to needing anything more than a 14. And no, nine isn't too much, that's what I'll be setting mine to. In theory the higher you need to set your din the better skiier you are. But you never want to be near the minimum IMO, you want be to at least two above it.
there is a common misconception/theory that when the binding spring is very compressed (high DIN) or very loose (low DIN) it does not function as well as in the middle of the range...
Guess what kiddies, bindings actually have to get approved and DIN is a universal standard that must be adhered to throughout a binding's DIN range with a different amount of force required to release at each DIN number. Your binding will perform just as well at the the bottom, middle & top of its range.
Guess what kiddies, bindings actually have to get approved and DIN is a universal standard that must be adhered to throughout a binding's DIN range with a different amount of force required to release at each DIN number. Your binding will perform just as well at the the bottom, middle & top of its range.
Gmart
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yea asshole. haha no im joking idc what you call me.
and I bet they do work just fine but the way I think of it is you dont listen to music too loud or too soft, right in the middle right. Thats just the way i fell about bindings as well. I feel like yea it will be just fine at low but bindings are like springs in a pen. There loose at a minimum and super compressed at maximum. That right in the middle works perfectly, thats why when you click a pen it stays right in the middle, if you dont touch it, the pen tip doesnt come out, if you click it, it stays in the middle, if you click it again your at the maximum for a second then back to where you started, with no pen tip sticking out.
Also, not trying to be a dick, but, all you did is explain how a binding works. your DIN, just means it takes a certain amount of force to release. So an 8 on any binding should release the same, but in my personal experience, an 8 on a STH 12 and an 8 on a Jester, don't release the same, but, in theory they should. Which is why everyone has their opinions about DIN settings.
Im just speaking from personal experience. If i'm a kiddie, i'd have to place you at a fetus
(JOKE
and I bet they do work just fine but the way I think of it is you dont listen to music too loud or too soft, right in the middle right. Thats just the way i fell about bindings as well. I feel like yea it will be just fine at low but bindings are like springs in a pen. There loose at a minimum and super compressed at maximum. That right in the middle works perfectly, thats why when you click a pen it stays right in the middle, if you dont touch it, the pen tip doesnt come out, if you click it, it stays in the middle, if you click it again your at the maximum for a second then back to where you started, with no pen tip sticking out.
Also, not trying to be a dick, but, all you did is explain how a binding works. your DIN, just means it takes a certain amount of force to release. So an 8 on any binding should release the same, but in my personal experience, an 8 on a STH 12 and an 8 on a Jester, don't release the same, but, in theory they should. Which is why everyone has their opinions about DIN settings.
Im just speaking from personal experience. If i'm a kiddie, i'd have to place you at a fetus
(JOKE
El_Barto.
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Its just a stupid, condescending way of addressing strangers. It makes you sound childish and immature. Only young people do it because they think it makes them sound old.
Same reason why everyone on this site calls everyone else "12"
swallow his dick a little deeper next time (Joke, not serious. wanna snuggle?)
Same reason why everyone on this site calls everyone else "12"
swallow his dick a little deeper next time
(Joke, not serious. wanna snuggle?)
bobs
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There are many misconceptions about bindings.....
You are correct that DIN has become the universal standard for testing. And you are also correct that a DIN of 8 will release uniformly across all lab tests.
DIN is a set of limits to prevent injury to your "lower" leg. Factors such as age, height and weight are used to approximate a skier's average bone density and predict leverage force. The DIN is a limit of what a skier's lower leg can safely handle in twisting or forward leaning falls.
So the OP can ski on any binding with his number, but only for the singular case of lower leg protection.
There is more to consider if you are worried about pre-release or the rest of your body. Bindings have functions beyond the numbers on its screen.
The DIN norms take a look at predictably loaded test releases. They begin to blur when you consider the ability to absorb shock. Shock and irregular forces come from speed, vibration, nicking rails or just hard riding (i.e park and big mt). The situations present large impulses of energy that quickly return to zero.
Shock is in great part covered by the elastic range of travel, but it is also why bindings are engineered to be used in the middle of their DIN range.
The next DIN size up will have a larger spring with an inherently larger mass. The coupled effect of mass and spring is a greater response to absorbing shock. This is why advanced skiers will often feel an 16 DIN binding set at 10 will pre-release less than 10 DIN binding set at 10.
In spark notes, a binding set in the middle of its DIN range will allow you to keep a lower DIN setting that safely protects your lower leg while simultaneously giving a larger margin for elastic recovery at high impulse energy. Making mid range DIN's the safest option
You are correct that DIN has become the universal standard for testing. And you are also correct that a DIN of 8 will release uniformly across all lab tests.
DIN is a set of limits to prevent injury to your "lower" leg. Factors such as age, height and weight are used to approximate a skier's average bone density and predict leverage force. The DIN is a limit of what a skier's lower leg can safely handle in twisting or forward leaning falls.
So the OP can ski on any binding with his number, but only for the singular case of lower leg protection.
There is more to consider if you are worried about pre-release or the rest of your body. Bindings have functions beyond the numbers on its screen.
The DIN norms take a look at predictably loaded test releases. They begin to blur when you consider the ability to absorb shock. Shock and irregular forces come from speed, vibration, nicking rails or just hard riding (i.e park and big mt). The situations present large impulses of energy that quickly return to zero.
Shock is in great part covered by the elastic range of travel, but it is also why bindings are engineered to be used in the middle of their DIN range.
The next DIN size up will have a larger spring with an inherently larger mass. The coupled effect of mass and spring is a greater response to absorbing shock. This is why advanced skiers will often feel an 16 DIN binding set at 10 will pre-release less than 10 DIN binding set at 10.
In spark notes, a binding set in the middle of its DIN range will allow you to keep a lower DIN setting that safely protects your lower leg while simultaneously giving a larger margin for elastic recovery at high impulse energy. Making mid range DIN's the safest option