again, gonna have to go ahead and call you out on this. I (along with 4 or 5 of my good friends) are all east coast kids and have been skiing tahoe the past two years (I still live back east but get a solid 20 days out there a year), and I can most certantly ski full mountain, and do some hiking, skis cliff bands, trees, whatever gnar gnar you 'west' people have...so again, sorry but you're dead wrong.