Hunting

What you guys don't get is I am not hating on hunting, I hate it when pro hunting people try and make the argument that people hunt so they don't go hungry, this just isn't true. Well maybe in extreme situations but for most people it isn't.
 
alright, ill respect that. but i dont recall anyone saying that they would go hungry if they didnt hunt. we said that we hunt for the meat and the thrill in that order. not that if we didnt have it we would starve or go hungry.
 
Tight bro. I guess you could call me on the extreme side. With how I hunt. I don't always hunt like that, but mostly. Once a year Ill go on an elk hunting "trip" but mostly I deer hunt right out off my back porch.
 
My mom makes great hot dishes with deer heart.

And to kepler, your logic sucks. Most hunters do hunt for the meat but no, we don't say we're going to go feed our family. Why? We don't NEED to hunt to feed our families, in fact it is not cost effective to do so. I could buy waaaaaaay more beef for what we spend on a hunt then the amount of venison we come out with. I just happen to like venison a lot better than beef. Is that so hard to believe? And as far as trophy hunting, yes, some hunters try to wait for the big buck, but they still want the meat. As for me, if i saw a 20 point buck i would obviously shoot it. However, if I see a smaller doe i don't have a problem shooting that either because the meat is much better than an old buck.
 
I hunt every weekend. I bowhunt for deer, pheasant hunt, squirrel hunt, pigeon hunt, coyote hunt, and turkey hunt. I'm gonna be getting into trapping this year too. But I pretty much grew up around hunting, my family pheasant hunts alot. BTW pheas season opens this weekend who else is stoked?!?!
 
This is my third year of hunting deer and first year hunting waterfowl. I can't really find anymore things to say to Kepler that haven't already been said by others already, the man has made up his mind. I can respect peoples decision to eat only farm raised meat as long as they respect my decision to go out and hunt mine. It's all about personal choice, I was raised in a hunter friendly community but I was never forced or even nudged in the direction of hunting, I made the choice myself at 17 years of age.

Unfortunately hunters get a bad spin from the majority of the media. The stereotype of drunken, bloodthirsty hillbillies is all too common but much less common in practice. I don't drive a jacked up camo truck, I don't speak with a hickass accent and I don't get all jacked up on the thrill of killing a "innocent animal," hell I go to a university that's usually stereotyped as a hippy campus. My thrill is being outside away from everything. You hear and see things that surpass any thrill that you may get from shooting a deer or bird. When I do happen to shoot something it feels good because I put a lot of work into what I do but you wouldn't be human if you didn't feel the slightest bit of remorse for something you killed.

In my opinion wild game tastes a whole lot better than anything I have ever eaten from a store. Cook up deer loin and then tell me that doesn't taste like a piece of heaven. At least I know that the geese, duck and deer that I shoot aren't shot up with growth hormones and fed god knows what.
 
Now, im assuming that the only time you ever leave the city is when you drive to the ski hill, so first i want to clear up the fact that not all deer resemble Bambi, and when hunting you probably are not tearing a family apart, that being said hunting takes a huge amount of outdoor skill and is just as much about the "chase" so to speak, also it is illegal to leave your animal to rot, and most hunters eat what they shoot, i see no "moral" difference between a hunter killing his own animal, and the fact that tens of thousand of cows, pigs, chickens, ect. are systematically executed on a daily basis. We have not evolved past the need to go out and hunt for our own meals, if you watch the news you would know a large portion of the world is starving. It just pisses me off when people say things like hunters just want to put a bullet between something's eyes, that is one part of hunting, most hunters wait in the bush to find the animal, kill it, pack the dead animal out of the bush, then gut it themselves, and prepare the meat, this is a little different then "going to shoot some animals with the boys".
 
well said ive been hunting for 8 years and the "Bambi people" who freak out because your "killing a family etc" are idiots... hunting is embedded in humans its how weve survived so far. same with what others have said its not about going out and just shooting something in the face. its a rush to know youve provided for your family, are you going to starve without it? no but youve fufilled that instinct to be the provider. i love hunting and im going to provide the expericence for my kids.
 
I've said many times that I lived in a suburban area and went to school in a very rural town. I've been around hunters my entire life, some of my best friends hunt, my father has even hunted before.

While everyone seems to think I'm this uber liberal, don't kill any animals nutjob, no one seems to be getting what I originally said, hunting is still kinda fucked up.

Sure you eat healthy, natural meat. Sure you kill the animal in a humane way, well sometimes. I've heard too many stories of a hunter having to track an animal another quarter mile while it runs wounded and terrified through the woods.

But you still get your jollies from putting a bullet or arrow through the animals skull. People just wouldn't hunt if they didn't find it fun. Or at least the only people hunting would be people who actually needed to do so to survive. All of you are still going out and killing things because you deem it a grand ol' time, and no amount of yelling at me calling me a hippy will ever persuade me that that isn't fucked up in some way.

Go play paintball or something.
 
Dude personally, I think your the one who is fucked up. Why would you even think people get "jollies" from shooting living animals. What crack have you been smoking?

Plus I don't see how you can be saying this when people have been hunting for thousands of years.
 
Your right hunting is fun, but it is not the killing that makes it so much fun. Its being outside, spending time with your family/friends, celebrating life, camping, relaxing, hiking, taking pictures, cooking great food, its a hell of a lot more than just "killing a helpless animal"
 
Your forgetting the oppurtunity cost they get out of the meat they harvest. They are willing to pay more for it because it brings them more utility such as, higher quality meat than beef, chicken, ect., they derive some sort of pleasure from the whole experience such as being away from their wives, being in nature, getting exercise, ect. Also for some people the cost of the meat is actually considerably less. For example some people could spend $400 dollars on a rifle, ammo, license and go out your backdoor and hike into the woods and shoot an multiple elk and deer along with other wild game at a small cost for all the meat they could harvest along with their other family members doing the same with the same rifle at different times. For some people its extremely economical as far as their location and lifestyle.

AND: What about the positive qualities that you get from hunting that you wouldn't get by sitting at home and playing Xbox and then driving to the store and buying a steak. When you hunt you learn patience, perserverance, you learn to take responsibility for your actions, insight, planning skills, you learn to deduce and induce......... and the list goes on.
 
I love killing animals. Especially when you shoot them in the leg first and they kinda drag themselves around and then you take a headshot and blow their heads off haha. Or when you shoot a deer on a hillside and they tomahawk down the slope and hit a tree DAMN THAT'S THE SICKEST. and the adrenaline rush is so awesome. Basically when i'm hunting i shooting anything that's alive whether i have a tag or not cause fuck it it just feels so good. Wow! This is what you think hunting is? Well maybe in your nightmares. So keep waking up at night and crying to your mommy about the hunting nightmare.
 
whoops sorry Alex i thought you meant "sick" like that's terrible, not "sick" like FUCKING SICK BRO! Guess i shoulda read the stuff you quoted haha. anyways it still aplies to anyone who doesn't like hunting.
 
So you only hunt as a means of providing healthy food to yourself and your family? You derive no enjoyment out of it?

That's what I thought. My argument is that people hunt largely these days for the thrill and enjoyment. And that should not be a valid reason to kill something in my opinion.

And the whole "We've been doing it for thousands of years" argument is just awful. I wouldn't use it again if you don't want to get laughed at. Humans have also been worshiping false gods, starting wars, enslaving people, treating women like dirt, among many other things for thousands of years, does that make it right?

Also people really haven't been hunting as the sole means of producing meat for thousands of years like you think. Man has domesticated animals for means of food since the first civilizations.

I'll say it again because people seem to not get it, the act of killing an animal is not what I find disgusting. It's the act of killing that animal largely for your own enjoyment that I find appalling.

We have different opinions I get that, and I'm ok with that and you should be too. But next time you guys go hunting stop and think to yourself, "what's the main reason I'm here, is it to feed my family or because it is simply a fun activity for me?"
 
Not trying to be a dick but..those moose are pretty small ESPECIALLY the second one. Must be the food in the area.

My uncle just got back and he shot a 1500 lb Bull with a 60 inch rack. I think the B&C score was 210?

 
Yes, I hate hunting honestly. It is the most BORING FUCKING THING in the world. You get cold sitting in a blind waiting, get wet, and you can't really talk cause it scares the deer away. It fucking sucks if you are impatient like me. But the venison steaks and meat you get from it make it worth it.

OH, funny story. My dad was hunting mule deer with his dad like 40 years ago shortly after he got out of the navy. They split up to search and it was a nice sunny day and he had a sandwich and an apple and decided to lay down to wait. Well, my dad fell asleep and when he woke up he was surrounded by mule deer. there was one probably not more than 10 feet in front of him. He picks up his .300 Winchester magnum and just points and shoots. Well, his dad comes up cause he hears the shot and a bunch of deer running away. But, there are two deer dead and only one shot was fired.

"WTF happened?" -my grandpa

"Well dad, what I did was wait for them to sorta cross in front of each other and line up so that is when I chose to shoot."

"You feel asleep didn't you?"

"Yes sir."
 
somebody makes a thread asking who enjoys hunting and some assholes decide that even though they don't love hunting they're gonna post anyways. love it.
 
i do all the hunting i can, mostly deer and upland birds

i've recently gotten pretty into turkey hunting

and for the past three years i've been applying for elk and bear permits but i'm yet to get drawn for either

i havent started trapping yet, that seems kind of mean, but that doesnt mean i'll never try it
 
Exactly, nature is a huge part of it. Even if you don't kill anything, I still like to go out and at least see some deer or birds or other animals. Thats one reason why I like pheasant hunting so much, you walk all day and get to see the countryside and the dogs work. Same with deer hunting and turkey hunting. Waking up at 4am to go sit out in the blind or stand sucks, but watching the woods wake up and seeing the sunrise is definatly worth it.
 
theres this thing called the food chain. were on top for a reason. yes i do get a thrill out of hunting. why? because im human. it isnt because i just killed sumthing. theres a satisfaction of going into the woods for days hiking around and killing an animal that i will get to enjoy at the dinner table. you eat meat that has been pumbed full of chemicals and been treated inhumanly. so there fore you contribute to more animal cruelty than any ethical hunter does.
 
The worst feeling in the world is when all you do is wound the deer rather than outright getting it on the first shot.
 
I'm a vegetarian who fully supports sustainable hunting..... go to PA, MD, NJ, or any of those states and you'll see how much of a need there is for deer-hunting. Without hunting, the deer starve to death and are hit by cars. We have removed all of their natural predators and therefore they are in need of a regulating factor = hunting.
Also, hunting gives you an appreciation for the animal, it's behavior, and it's habitat. Getting a burger at McDonalds completely removes any and all connection and respect for the animal.... but you gain that connection back with hunting. There are of course the blood-thirsty hunters out there who invalidate all of this... but generally speaking.... hunters know the animals they hunt more so than many wildlife biologists.
 
exactly! were i used to live the elk population was around 10,000 elk for a region wich was aprox 80 miles long and 30 wide. the human poulation was around 30,000. you could only imagine the problems. disease, starvation, farmers crops were ruined. do to good wild life management the population is now down around 6000 a more manageable and healthier enviroment for the elk and humans.
 
No the thousands of years argument is completely acceptable. With out hunting we would't be here dumb fuck

I do get enjoyment out of hunting, but not in the way you think, go back and read my older posts, I guess you haven't taken the time to read them. While doing so I can harvest myself some food. Hunting is something humans do.

Think of this sir, you eat meat right? You could say that slaughter houses are hunting pens. Except the animals are just trapped for their whole life, and are going to be killed.

Hunting is a completely sound and viable way of harvesting meat. END OF STORY!
 
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I never knew the louder you yelled the more right you were. I'll have to try that next time instead of logic and reasoning.

This is the only thing you have said to me...

"Wrong again, sure a ton of people hunt for the trophy. So what.

The buck I got last year was a 1x1. Am I a trophy hunter. Lol NO."

I fail to see how I could have gone back and read your older posts and gotten any information about what kind of hunter you are. Like I give a shit what you said not pertaining to your childish way of arguing with me. If anything the above statement only bolsters my argument.

And like it or not humans have done a lot more things to get us to this place that hunt. While I won't call you a dumb fuck because I'm more civil than that, you should really think about who the dumb fuck is. Because I'm sure a smart fuck wouldn't contribute the reason humans have evolved to this point as hunting.

Humans did a lot of shit thousands of years ago that they don't do anymore for a reason. Because it's not necessary.

And since I have to repeat myself multiple times to people like you.

I do not have a problem with people hunting to put food in their bellies. It's the natural order of life. People say it like I don't fucking acknowledge this. I have a problem that people think it's ok to kill an animal when they really don't need to and just cover it up saying it's ok because they eat the meat afterwords. Hunting is a sport, even hunters say it. You have video games and movies all about the sport of hunting. Why is that ok? Why is it acceptable to kill something simply because you are higher on the food chain? Why is it ok to have a sport where we kill things? Have we not grown past that as a society?

I pass my judgment on these people like I have the right to do. You get so upset that I find what you do fucked up. Why? You're so sensitive to the subject as if my opinion really matters to you. If you think its ok to kill defenseless animals under your logic then do so. Most hunters are still killing animals largely for their own pleasure in the end.

 
Seriously though.... anyone in here who is saying hunting is a bad thing.... PLEASE come home with me to Pennsylvania.
 
So because you have ethically disconnected yourself from the whole food process that makes it ok? You being alive and buying that steak at the grocery store is a process and you killed that cow in some way or another. You're a consumer, the more there are the more cows/chickens/etc are killed. The only difference between you and me is I pull the trigger.

And this whole bullshit about you attacking people for wanting to enjoy the meat they worked so fucking hard for is ridiculous. I don't go out to the forest to get my fucking jollies off. Hell half the time when there's nothing to look at I pass right out into la-la land, think of the most boring moment you've ever had, multiply that by 10 and then you may understand. I go out there to hopefully (and usually not) get a chance to bring home some motherfucking delicious meat that is overpriced/unavailable at the grocery store.

Just stop typing in this thread, so far you have failed to raise a single valid point to support your arguments. Go vent on PETA or something.

 
I don't understand what you made that bold for? I got a 1x1, is that a trophy. In the record books, no that would be absolutely nothing. I guess you could call it a trophy in the sense that I earned it, with many days of hard work.

Hunting is necessary dude. Have you ever heard of chronic wasting desease, blue tung, malnutrition, or over population? Just thought I would throw that out there. What about if there is a natural desaster and people like you cant buy your food at the store, or go to a restaurant? It will be important to have hunters to teach the skill. If nobody did it, we would be. Fucked.

I am sorry about calling you a dumbfuck, your right I get really pissed when people can't understand the fact that hunting is something that will be around as long as people are. But really with out hunting do you think cave men would have survived? I think not, I guess it is possible, but highly likely.

For the record, I kind of agree with you on the sport thing. I personally don't think of hunting "for me" as a sport. I think of it as a lifestyle, and a tool.

You obviously didn't read all my other posts.
 
Ok, time for me to turn the honesty button on. The only thing I enjoy killing are moles, and once in awhile a coyote. The mole thing, I think most people are with me on. The coyote, we have coyotes that will attack neighbors pets and livestock. BUT, quite often now I just get a shotgun out and shoot away from them just to use the sound to scare them cause I saw 3 pups running around too. I don't want to kill their parents and then have them die.
 
The problem we have with your posts is generalizing all hunters as killing solely for the reason that they like to kill.

Like I said in my previous posts which you have ignored completely, much of the satisfaction comes from the accomplishment, not the actual killing. Hunting takes a lot of patience and then that patience is rewarded. It's a lot like fishing in that aspect. And I rarely hear people complain about fishers. They kill living animals too, and catch and release is a lot worse than killing it IMO. I also hate vegetarians who eat fish because "Oh, fish isn't meat." The fact of the matter is, fish is meat.
 
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