Hawx Ultra XTD

14233834:Medicine said:
So, anyone else experiencing this? Not to mention the "light plastic" which gets completely demolished by a range of alpine bindings.

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Stop landing so hard on your heels.

Ive seen this happen a host of times. Not only in these boots. It's always from dudes absolutely stomping their heels into shit, or sitting backseat a lot to the point where it just rattles it all apart out of consistent compression. .
 
I wish they made this boot in a denser, heavier plastic that stays stiff in the springtime when temps are warm and snow is heavy.

I might be one of the only people in the world actually asking for a heavier touring boot. But, I'd buy it in a heartbeat.

Make this fucker out of straight-up world cup race boot plastic just for me, plz haha.
 
14389924:twinkle_toes said:
Whyyyy don’t any of the 130s come in smaller sizes for people with tiny feet ?

Tiny feet people have needs too :(
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We make the Hawx Ultra XTD 130 and Hawx Prime XTD 130 down to a true 22.5

Be sure you tell your local retailer to order them, that will help a lot!!
 
LupoHawx!

I’m sorry [tag=134699]@onenerdykid[/tag] ?

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Butchered up a set of Lupo “P” 130 tongues and some buckles to stiffen up my XTD’s.

Still some small tweaks to be done, mostly to the shape of the tongues, but overall it is a massive improvement to inbound skiing performance. The tongues do restrict walk-mode ROM, but they come off and clip to my backpack for skinning, or I’ll use my older XTDs with the lighter liner for a day of pure touring in good snow.

The plan is to pick up a set of Redster Clubsport 130s with the professional liner next season as my resort boot, I missed out this year. Then these can go back to 50/50 and touring. In the meantime, this feels pretty good!
 
[tag=134699]@onenerdykid[/tag] I realise the answer for specific personal questions is GO SEE A BOOT FITTER! :)

But generally speaking, where does the Hawx XTD line-up fall on the boot spectrum as far as instep height goes?

And would an Ultra XTD boot potentially be well-suited for someone with narrow heels/calves + high insteps?

**This post was edited on Feb 6th 2022 at 2:03:55pm
 
14392352:rhysjenz said:
[tag=134699]@onenerdykid[/tag] I realise the answer for specific personal questions is GO SEE A BOOT FITTER! :)

But generally speaking, where does the Hawx XTD line-up fall on the boot spectrum as far as instep height goes?

And would an Ultra XTD boot potentially be well-suited for someone with narrow heels/calves + high insteps?

**This post was edited on Feb 6th 2022 at 2:03:55pm
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I have very narrow boney feet/ankles/legs, with a somewhat higher instep relative to the rest of my foot. I didn't need any shell molding, just an instep pad on the second buckle area when molding the liner. Then I use the provided spoiler for my skinny legs. And that's with a somewhat thicker shock absorbing footbed. I'd say the instep seems average to maybe a little low. You can do a shell and liner mold if you really need a lot of instep room. And that might be enough for you. A smart boot fitter could give you a better answer based off your foot.

**This post was edited on Feb 6th 2022 at 4:12:11pm
 
14392352:rhysjenz said:
[tag=134699]@onenerdykid[/tag] I realise the answer for specific personal questions is GO SEE A BOOT FITTER! :)

But generally speaking, where does the Hawx XTD line-up fall on the boot spectrum as far as instep height goes?

And would an Ultra XTD boot potentially be well-suited for someone with narrow heels/calves + high insteps?

**This post was edited on Feb 6th 2022 at 2:03:55pm
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From a last perspective, it is a low volume boot with a lower-than-average instep height. From a liner perspective, it can actually accommodate a healthy instep. This last point is why some boot-fitter erroneously claim the Hawx Ultra has a high instep for its last width.

Real world answer - you won't know until you step in and close the boot up.
 
14392388:onenerdykid said:
From a last perspective, it is a low volume boot with a lower-than-average instep height. From a liner perspective, it can actually accommodate a healthy instep. This last point is why some boot-fitter erroneously claim the Hawx Ultra has a high instep for its last width.

Real world answer - you won't know until you step in and close the boot up.
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Ahh okay, that's really interesting - yep have definitely seen a lot of chatter online about how the Ultra (allegedly) has a high instep...

Have heard that in general increasing instep height can often be challenging/unsuccessful, and typical advice is to get a boot with sufficient instep space in the first place. What makes the Ultra so accommodating? Is the liner that much more adjustable than others out there? (and which liner are we talking about, the newer Mimic ones?)
 
14392510:rhysjenz said:
Ahh okay, that's really interesting - yep have definitely seen a lot of chatter online about how the Ultra (allegedly) has a high instep...

Have heard that in general increasing instep height can often be challenging/unsuccessful, and typical advice is to get a boot with sufficient instep space in the first place. What makes the Ultra so accommodating? Is the liner that much more adjustable than others out there? (and which liner are we talking about, the newer Mimic ones?)
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The instep is one of the main areas of the foot/boot to base the fit on. The instep of the shell holds the foot down and back in the heel pocket, keeping your toes away from the front of the boot. But if the instep is too low, it can be quite uncomfortable and lead to cold feet.

Shells (like Hawx Ultra) can be stretched in this area through Memory Fit with some success when needed. You can also grind down the boot board a few millimeters to gain some volume that way. For the last 10-11 years, the liner tongue itself has had a very flexible instep and an instep cut-out that prevents a boney instep from being crushed.
 
the instep is kinda low on ultra. you'd be surprised you might fit in the prime version. i could ski both, prime fits so well that the ultra tightness feels kinda unnecessary.
 
Thanks for the explainer Matt.

Related question - how does the fit of the women's versions of the Ultra XTD differ from the unisex models? Your website just mentions a women's specific cuff shape? Hard to find the Ultra XTD 120 in the right size to try on, but have managed to find the Ultra XTD 115 W.
 
14393169:rhysjenz said:
Thanks for the explainer Matt.

Related question - how does the fit of the women's versions of the Ultra XTD differ from the unisex models? Your website just mentions a women's specific cuff shape? Hard to find the Ultra XTD 120 in the right size to try on, but have managed to find the Ultra XTD 115 W.
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Women's boots use cuffs that are 15mm lower and have a more tulip shaped (open up top for a larger calf muscle).
 
14391784:Holgan said:
LupoHawx!

I’m sorry [tag=134699]@onenerdykid[/tag] ?

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Butchered up a set of Lupo “P” 130 tongues and some buckles to stiffen up my XTD’s.

Still some small tweaks to be done, mostly to the shape of the tongues, but overall it is a massive improvement to inbound skiing performance. The tongues do restrict walk-mode ROM, but they come off and clip to my backpack for skinning, or I’ll use my older XTDs with the lighter liner for a day of pure touring in good snow.

The plan is to pick up a set of Redster Clubsport 130s with the professional liner next season as my resort boot, I missed out this year. Then these can go back to 50/50 and touring. In the meantime, this feels pretty good!
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love it dude!

130 CS redster is fire btw, you will love it, its drasticly better for inbounds.

I only use my 130 XTDs with light skis and powdays etc, just flexes to much ,especially for spring
 
14234236:onenerdykid said:
What model year are your boots? We saw this happen during the first year black/orange models but we made some updates to the boot board.

Have they been ground thinner at all by a boot-fitter?
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I just got the new 2022 model 130s 2 weeks ago and one of my bootboards just broke like this. I've got a heli trip in 2 days. I think I'll just bring superglue and put it back together if it keeps breaking pieces off? Anything else I can do [tag=134699]@onenerdykid[/tag] ?
 
14394582:zerospinskier said:
I just got the new 2022 model 130s 2 weeks ago and one of my bootboards just broke like this. I've got a heli trip in 2 days. I think I'll just bring superglue and put it back together if it keeps breaking pieces off? Anything else I can do [tag=134699]@onenerdykid[/tag] ?
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Backcountry already hooked it up and gave me a new boot board. Hopefully it was just a defective one and I'm good now. Mine wasn't was bad as that guy's photo in this thread. Just 1 piece broke off.
 
I went to a bootfitter yesterday just to see my options, i tried the hawx ultra and liked them very much. Checks all my boxes, but i am afraid of the durability adter reading a bit on this thread. I ski lots of park and offpiste when the conditions are right. But mostly park. Don’t hike too much but wanting to do some more of it. I ski quite hard and tend to go quite hard on my gear. How is the durability of the plastic? Would I be better off getting a more alpine focused boot with a different plastic? Hoping to have my boots for some time, as i don’t really have lots of money.
 
14394935:lil.Boye said:
I went to a bootfitter yesterday just to see my options, i tried the hawx ultra and liked them very much. Checks all my boxes, but i am afraid of the durability adter reading a bit on this thread. I ski lots of park and offpiste when the conditions are right. But mostly park. Don’t hike too much but wanting to do some more of it. I ski quite hard and tend to go quite hard on my gear. How is the durability of the plastic? Would I be better off getting a more alpine focused boot with a different plastic? Hoping to have my boots for some time, as i don’t really have lots of money.
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Did you try the Hawx Ultra (alpine/resort skiing) or the Hawx Ultra XTD (freeride touring)?

Definitely go the regular Hawx Ultra route if you are skiing mostly park & resort.
 
14394962:onenerdykid said:
Did you try the Hawx Ultra (alpine/resort skiing) or the Hawx Ultra XTD (freeride touring)?

Definitely go the regular Hawx Ultra route if you are skiing mostly park & resort.
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tried the ultra xtd. i do the occasional hike but don't know how much i would get out of the xtd since i am skiing mostly resort. thank you for the answer, will probably go with the hawx ultra.
 
[tag=134699]@onenerdykid[/tag] - the fit of the regular resort Hawx Ultra boots is meant to be pretty much the same as the Ultra XTD models, right?

Thinking about picking up some cheap 2019 Ultra 110s to see how they work for me. Valid strategy? Any differences to be aware of?
 
14406220:rhysjenz said:
[tag=134699]@onenerdykid[/tag] - the fit of the regular resort Hawx Ultra boots is meant to be pretty much the same as the Ultra XTD models, right?

Thinking about picking up some cheap 2019 Ultra 110s to see how they work for me. Valid strategy? Any differences to be aware of?
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No worries, did some more googling & found that the fit is the same between the alpine/XTD versions.
 
guys,

I have a pair of hawk ultra 130 from 2021. They are grip walk, so are they compatible with Sth2 WTR 13 or I absolutely need MNC binding?

thanks
 
14414167:frank9190 said:
guys,

I have a pair of hawk ultra 130 from 2021. They are grip walk, so are they compatible with Sth2 WTR 13 or I absolutely need MNC binding?

thanks
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They are compatible with the STH2 bindings when the bindings are adjusted correctly.
 
[tag=134699]@onenerdykid[/tag] I find Hawx Ultra XTD to fit me perfectly (I have a narrow foot) but even the 120 flex seem to be too much for me (I'm very light and don't ski aggressively). I noticed that you used to manufacture Hawx Ultra XTD @flex 100, will the 22/23 winter collection bring them back? Or should I look at Backland series? (I prefer the flex pattern of Hawx TBH, but not at an expense of a too stiff boot of course)
 
14430762:bejo said:
[tag=134699]@onenerdykid[/tag] I find Hawx Ultra XTD to fit me perfectly (I have a narrow foot) but even the 120 flex seem to be too much for me (I'm very light and don't ski aggressively). I noticed that you used to manufacture Hawx Ultra XTD @flex 100, will the 22/23 winter collection bring them back? Or should I look at Backland series? (I prefer the flex pattern of Hawx TBH, but not at an expense of a too stiff boot of course)
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We unfortunately don't make the Ultra XTD softer than 120.

Backland is not the replacement for a softer-than-Ultra XTD 120 - it's boot made for a different type of skiing, almost a different sport.

Depending on your size, you could check out the Ultra XTD 115 or 95. They have lower cuff heights, but same foot area fit.
 
14430778:onenerdykid said:
We unfortunately don't make the Ultra XTD softer than 120.

Backland is not the replacement for a softer-than-Ultra XTD 120 - it's boot made for a different type of skiing, almost a different sport.

Depending on your size, you could check out the Ultra XTD 115 or 95. They have lower cuff heights, but same foot area fit.
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I'm 27.0 on mondo scale, so I could probably fit into women's 115 or 95, that's a good idea! Do I understand correctly that the calf area has more volume in women's boots? Any guesses how would that affect the flex, considering an end user with a smaller calf? (I'm trying to guess which one I should order since I don't see them available in my size anywhere near, only online and only abroad)
 
14430815:bejo said:
I'm 27.0 on mondo scale, so I could probably fit into women's 115 or 95, that's a good idea! Do I understand correctly that the calf area has more volume in women's boots? Any guesses how would that affect the flex, considering an end user with a smaller calf? (I'm trying to guess which one I should order since I don't see them available in my size anywhere near, only online and only abroad)
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The cuff is 15mm lower and more fluted (open at the top). That may work for you, it might not, it just totally depends on your anatomy. It's a good topic to discuss with your boot-fitter.

14431093:bejo said:
[tag=134699]@onenerdykid[/tag] Actually, I found old stock of Ultra XTD 100 in my size here:https://www.outdoorxl.pl/atomic-hawx-ultra-xtd-100-tech-gw.html?prl=92-260x144-6155

It's just that they are a bit on the heavier side at 1766gr (for 26.5). Do you think I could save some weight by switching the included liner to either Ultra XTD 3D Platinum or Ultra XTD Mimic Platinum liner?
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That's still lighter than a Lange XT3 or Tecnica Cochise. I wouldn't be too worried about it. If you do want to shed some weight get an Intuition liner.
 
14430815:bejo said:
I'm 27.0 on mondo scale, so I could probably fit into women's 115 or 95, that's a good idea! Do I understand correctly that the calf area has more volume in women's boots? Any guesses how would that affect the flex, considering an end user with a smaller calf? (I'm trying to guess which one I should order since I don't see them available in my size anywhere near, only online and only abroad)
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I ski a women's XTD 115 as I have tiny hooves... I mean feet and have had no issues with the calf fit. I'm the opposite of you, need a stiffer flex but at the time I got my boots they didn't make the men's XTD in a size small enough.
 
Introducing Hawx Ultra XTD v2:

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Quick Stats:

-Same last as before (no changes)- 98mm/26.5

-Same out-of-the-box geometry as before- 15° forward lean, 4° ramp angle.

-Same 54° of cuff ROM.

-Full PU construction, cuff & shell. No Grilamid, no Pebax, no polypropylene, no polyolefin.

-Thicker lower shell and thicker cuff for more stability, better damping, more durability for daily resort use.

-All new Mimic liner construction with our 3D stretch toe box, an adjustable/removeable tongue and

and a much improved Achilles Flex Zone to match the cuff movement.

-New ski/walk mechanism allows for 3 forward lean settings (no flip chips) 13°-15°-17°

-New glued-on Skywalk GripWalk rubber sole ISO 23223 (lower standheight & less weight allow us to go full PU but still keep a respectable weight).

-Available with an all new, ski boot specific BOA system or traditional buckles

-Unisex flexes: 130, 120, 110

-Women’s flexes: 115, 95

-1830g / 26.5

-Hitting your favorite Atomic dealer autumn 2023

Really stoked to share this with you all, and of course drop your questions here and I will answer them for you.

**This post was edited on Jan 20th 2023 at 6:37:52am
 
Blister has just dropped their First Look & Flash Review of the new Atomic Hawx Ultra XTD 130 BOA and here is a snippet from the flash review:

"from a fit point of view … I already prefer the BOA system, 100%. The ability to modulate how tight or loose the lower shell is on your foot is great. I actually love it."

If anyone wants to hear me go deep into the weeds on everything, we recorded a podcast about it too.

https://blisterreview.com/podcasts/gear-30-podcast/year-of-the-boa-atomics-matt-manser-on-new-ski-boots-liners-boa-systems-ep-232
 
14500638:onenerdykid said:
Introducing Hawx Ultra XTD v2:

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Quick Stats:

-Same last as before (no changes)- 98mm/26.5

-Same out-of-the-box geometry as before- 15° forward lean, 4° ramp angle.

-Same 54° of cuff ROM.

-Full PU construction, cuff & shell. No Grilamid, no Pebax, no polypropylene, no polyolefin.

-Thicker lower shell and thicker cuff for more stability, better damping, more durability for daily resort use.

-All new Mimic liner construction with our 3D stretch toe box, an adjustable/removeable tongue and

and a much improved Achilles Flex Zone to match the cuff movement.

-New ski/walk mechanism allows for 3 forward lean settings (no flip chips) 13°-15°-17°

-New glued-on Skywalk GripWalk rubber sole ISO 23223 (lower standheight & less weight allow us to go full PU but still keep a respectable weight).

-Available with an all new, ski boot specific BOA system or traditional buckles

-Unisex flexes: 130, 120, 110

-Women’s flexes: 115, 95

-1830g / 26.5

-Hitting your favorite Atomic dealer autumn 2023

Really stoked to share this with you all, and of course drop your questions here and I will answer them for you.

**This post was edited on Jan 20th 2023 at 6:37:52am
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That color is hot
 
14500638:onenerdykid said:
Introducing Hawx Ultra XTD v2:

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Quick Stats:

-Same last as before (no changes)- 98mm/26.5

-Same out-of-the-box geometry as before- 15° forward lean, 4° ramp angle.

-Same 54° of cuff ROM.

-Full PU construction, cuff & shell. No Grilamid, no Pebax, no polypropylene, no polyolefin.

-Thicker lower shell and thicker cuff for more stability, better damping, more durability for daily resort use.

-All new Mimic liner construction with our 3D stretch toe box, an adjustable/removeable tongue and

and a much improved Achilles Flex Zone to match the cuff movement.

-New ski/walk mechanism allows for 3 forward lean settings (no flip chips) 13°-15°-17°

-New glued-on Skywalk GripWalk rubber sole ISO 23223 (lower standheight & less weight allow us to go full PU but still keep a respectable weight).

-Available with an all new, ski boot specific BOA system or traditional buckles

-Unisex flexes: 130, 120, 110

-Women’s flexes: 115, 95

-1830g / 26.5

-Hitting your favorite Atomic dealer autumn 2023

Really stoked to share this with you all, and of course drop your questions here and I will answer them for you.

**This post was edited on Jan 20th 2023 at 6:37:52am
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Want! Currently in the first iteration of 120’s and I like but don’t love them (grilamid not my thing) not sure on the boa but I’m gona try them on when I can!
 
14500844:soupcan said:
Want! Currently in the first iteration of 120’s and I like but don’t love them (grilamid not my thing) not sure on the boa but I’m gona try them on when I can!
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I think you'll be pretty impressed!
 
14500927:Chunderface said:
What changes if any will we see the the regular 130 Ultra's?
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Regular Hawx Ultra sees some nice liner updates through the range. New toe box constructions on all models that allows for a bit more space & stretch. At the Mimic Platinum level, it gets an adjustable/removable tongue to better fit different instep heights and foot shapes. That tongue is also compatible with our V3 Tongue System that allows you to pick between 3 different thicknesses to find the ideal fit between leg and liner.
 
14391784:Holgan said:
LupoHawx!

I’m sorry [tag=134699]@onenerdykid[/tag] ?

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Butchered up a set of Lupo “P” 130 tongues and some buckles to stiffen up my XTD’s.

Still some small tweaks to be done, mostly to the shape of the tongues, but overall it is a massive improvement to inbound skiing performance. The tongues do restrict walk-mode ROM, but they come off and clip to my backpack for skinning, or I’ll use my older XTDs with the lighter liner for a day of pure touring in good snow.

The plan is to pick up a set of Redster Clubsport 130s with the professional liner next season as my resort boot, I missed out this year. Then these can go back to 50/50 and touring. In the meantime, this feels pretty good!
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Heyyyy can’t go and do this without giving me credit Jack. ;)
 
14500983:onenerdykid said:
Regular Hawx Ultra sees some nice liner updates through the range. New toe box constructions on all models that allows for a bit more space & stretch. At the Mimic Platinum level, it gets an adjustable/removable tongue to better fit different instep heights and foot shapes. That tongue is also compatible with our V3 Tongue System that allows you to pick between 3 different thicknesses to find the ideal fit between leg and liner.
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Nice. I know the answer is probably a resounding no, but is it at all possible to buy shells without the liners?
 
14500997:Chunderface said:
Nice. I know the answer is probably a resounding no, but is it at all possible to buy shells without the liners?
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Unfortunately, no shell-only program. But we do have a liner-only program ;)
 
14500845:onenerdykid said:
I think you'll be pretty impressed!
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Just listened to the blister podcast. Great to hear about the new boots. Dumb one that maybe I missed but is the new ultra going to come stock with a rigid boot board or the shock stop boot board?
 
Kind of a wild question, but I just picked up a pair of XTDs a few months back. Brought them out last weekend to Alta and Snowbird and they are starting to break in nicely. Like many though, I’m still missing some of that stiffness from my old Ultra 130S, especially in shit snow. While they likely need a liner update, I’ve still got the Ultra S’s at home, in the same size as my XTDs. With a BSL difference of 2mm in 25/25.5 (290 v. 292), is it kosher to swap these out depending on the trip I’m doing or where I’m going? Testing the bindings out in my NYC apartment, they click in fine, but I’m not super familiar with forward pressure settings, nor do I have a way to test them.

The natural solution is to buy multiple quivers, but I’m just starting to get into touring and don’t want to spend the money on a dedicated pair of skis/bindings. I’m still 90% resort skiing, and most trips require a 5 hour drive or a plane flight. I‘ll probably get something more touring dedicated in a season or two, but for now, I put Casts on my ARV116s and c’est la vie. Will be great for hiring a guide here and there this season, but want to be able to full send in the resort the rest of the time. Also, would rather not take the XTDs in the park for days when I bring my prodigies out…

Thanks for the help!
 
14501070:soupcan said:
Just listened to the blister podcast. Great to hear about the new boots. Dumb one that maybe I missed but is the new ultra going to come stock with a rigid boot board or the shock stop boot board?
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Glad you dig it. The new boots will come with the standard foam boot board (like before) but ShockStopper boot boards are always available.
 
14501140:TRSkier415 said:
Kind of a wild question, but I just picked up a pair of XTDs a few months back. Brought them out last weekend to Alta and Snowbird and they are starting to break in nicely. Like many though, I’m still missing some of that stiffness from my old Ultra 130S, especially in shit snow. While they likely need a liner update, I’ve still got the Ultra S’s at home, in the same size as my XTDs. With a BSL difference of 2mm in 25/25.5 (290 v. 292), is it kosher to swap these out depending on the trip I’m doing or where I’m going? Testing the bindings out in my NYC apartment, they click in fine, but I’m not super familiar with forward pressure settings, nor do I have a way to test them.

The natural solution is to buy multiple quivers, but I’m just starting to get into touring and don’t want to spend the money on a dedicated pair of skis/bindings. I’m still 90% resort skiing, and most trips require a 5 hour drive or a plane flight. I‘ll probably get something more touring dedicated in a season or two, but for now, I put Casts on my ARV116s and c’est la vie. Will be great for hiring a guide here and there this season, but want to be able to full send in the resort the rest of the time. Also, would rather not take the XTDs in the park for days when I bring my prodigies out…

Thanks for the help!
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Even with a difference of 2mm, you should always check the forward pressure on the binding. What binding do you have? Perhaps we can give you some pointers on how to do it.
 
14501237:onenerdykid said:
Even with a difference of 2mm, you should always check the forward pressure on the binding. What binding do you have? Perhaps we can give you some pointers on how to do it.
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Thanks! Happy to - P18s on the ARVs, and P15s on the Factions.
 
14501252:TRSkier415 said:
Thanks! Happy to - P18s on the ARVs, and P15s on the Factions.
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Unfortunately, I'm not familiar with how to adjust a Pivot's forward pressure. I've heard it can be finnicky. Perhaps ask in Gear Talk in a separate thread (unless someone sees this here).
 
14501252:TRSkier415 said:
Thanks! Happy to - P18s on the ARVs, and P15s on the Factions.
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You can fine-tune forward pressure on pivots really quickly and easily but in my experience, they have a fairly wide range of "working" forward pressure. You'd *probably* be fine to just click in and go.

The white tab on the baseplate, below the dildo is the fwd press indicator but it's not the most accurate. I use the indicator to get ballpark fwd press and then adjust for dildo angle and how easily the dildo rotates with the boot in.

This TGR thread has tons of good info:

https://www.tetongravity.com/forums/showthread.php/308131-P18-Pivot-FKS-forward-pressure-ignore-the-indicator
 
14501258:jca said:
You can fine-tune forward pressure on pivots really quickly and easily but in my experience, they have a fairly wide range of "working" forward pressure. You'd *probably* be fine to just click in and go.

The white tab on the baseplate, below the dildo is the fwd press indicator but it's not the most accurate. I use the indicator to get ballpark fwd press and then adjust for dildo angle and how easily the dildo rotates with the boot in.

This TGR thread has tons of good info:

https://www.tetongravity.com/forums/showthread.php/308131-P18-Pivot-FKS-forward-pressure-ignore-the-indicator
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NS to the rescue!
 
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