Hawx Ultra XTD

[cydwhit]

About to listen to the Blister pod, so maybe this is answered there, and I'll come back and edit it, but:

What are the chances that the updates that just came out come to a Prime shell soon? Or, how bad of an idea is it to bake the crap out of these to fit a tall, 104 mm wide foot?

 

[onenerdykid]

About to listen to the Blister pod, so maybe this is answered there, and I'll come back and edit it, but:

What are the chances that the updates that just came out come to a Prime shell soon? Or, how bad of an idea is it to bake the crap out of these to fit a tall, 104 mm wide foot?

The boots mold super easily. Have you ever tried a regular Hawx Ultra on?

 

[PacificRimJob]

About to listen to the Blister pod, so maybe this is answered there, and I'll come back and edit it, but:

What are the chances that the updates that just came out come to a Prime shell soon? Or, how bad of an idea is it to bake the crap out of these to fit a tall, 104 mm wide foot?

I've got a prime XTD to comfortably go on a dude with an absolute block of a forefoot without too much of an issue... Had to shell mold him first, and then manually stretch the thing a bit more but it's a super adaptable shell.

 

[cydwhit]

The boots mold super easily. Have you ever tried a regular Hawx Ultra on?

Yeah! I did a season in an Ultra and an XTD as my only boots. It took a fair amount of boot work but wasn’t the end of the world. Assuming the new boot would be similar?

 

[onenerdykid]

Yeah! I did a season in an Ultra and an XTD as my only boots. It took a fair amount of boot work but wasn’t the end of the world. Assuming the new boot would be similar?

If you made those work, this is the same!

 

[SHampson]

Introducing Hawx Ultra XTD v2:

Congratulations on the new boot, exciting updates! Any updates to the walk mode on the new boot? I replaced my hawx ultra xtds after 5 years of riding them, with the 22 model, and was bummed to have the walk mode break in the same way (screws blowing out on both boots).

 

[onenerdykid]

Congratulations on the new boot, exciting updates! Any updates to the walk mode on the new boot? I replaced my hawx ultra xtds after 5 years of riding them, with the 22 model, and was bummed to have the walk mode break in the same way (screws blowing out on both boots).

Yes all new walk mode, new interface with the cuff that distributes loads much better. But, as an aside, you'll still need to keep an eye on the screwed hardware- if screws come loose, then that's when they start breaking (and that goes for any boot, not just Atomic).

 

[N41v131355]

Yes all new walk mode, new interface with the cuff that distributes loads much better. But, as an aside, you'll still need to keep an eye on the screwed hardware- if screws come loose, then that's when they start breaking (and that goes for any boot, not just Atomic).

honestly, there is no excuse for this. Every Hawx XTD boot I know (mine, at least 3-4 of my friends, etc) had this issue. Once screws were unscrewed and put back with proper loctite - no issues whatsoever in years.

 

[vermontana]

[tag=134699]@onenerdykid[/tag] got a boot quiver question for you, I'm currently on a pair of Hawx ultra xtd 130s which have been great for touring and most resort days. When I'm driving my heavier skis or in thick cruddy snow, I definitely feel like I could use more damping and suspension from the boots, they're also showing signs of wear in the plastic so I I'm looking at adding a strictly resort boot to use.

Should I be looking at the Hawx Ultra 130 S for a resort boot or something like the Redster 130 CS? I don't have a racing background but I like to ski powerfully and hit cliffs/steep features and use chargier skis (moment commanders) for most of my days. The hawx shape fits my foot/ankle super well, but I'm wondering if moving up to the redster would be good for the most stability and control I can get out of a resort boot. I hit the park occasionally, so maybe the agressive lean in the redster would be less than ideal for that. Curious as to your thoughts, thanks!

 

[onenerdykid]

[tag=134699]@onenerdykid[/tag] got a boot quiver question for you, I'm currently on a pair of Hawx ultra xtd 130s which have been great for touring and most resort days. When I'm driving my heavier skis or in thick cruddy snow, I definitely feel like I could use more damping and suspension from the boots, they're also showing signs of wear in the plastic so I I'm looking at adding a strictly resort boot to use.

Should I be looking at the Hawx Ultra 130 S for a resort boot or something like the Redster 130 CS? I don't have a racing background but I like to ski powerfully and hit cliffs/steep features and use chargier skis (moment commanders) for most of my days. The hawx shape fits my foot/ankle super well, but I'm wondering if moving up to the redster would be good for the most stability and control I can get out of a resort boot. I hit the park occasionally, so maybe the agressive lean in the redster would be less than ideal for that. Curious as to your thoughts, thanks!

The Hawx Ultra 130 S will be a big step up from the first generation Ultra XTD 130 in terms of power, stability and suspension (Luke Jacobson the CEO of Moment Skis actually skis those shells in combination with our Mimic Professional liner). This will also be more readily available, easier to find.

The Redster CS 130 is what the vast majority of our freeski athletes are in, either FWT or park. The only issues with the Redster CS will be limited availability and the fact that it has a solid plastic sole. So if you can find a CS 130, you will then need to also add our dual component lifter to it and most like our rubberized, "ShockStopper" boot board. It's a bit more effort to get the CS 130 built as a ""freeski" boot but very much worth it in my opinion.

Can't go wrong either way.

 

[Chunderface]

The Hawx Ultra 130 S will be a big step up from the first generation Ultra XTD 130 in terms of power, stability and suspension (Luke Jacobson the CEO of Moment Skis actually skis those shells in combination with our Mimic Professional liner). This will also be more readily available, easier to find.

The Redster CS 130 is what the vast majority of our freeski athletes are in, either FWT or park. The only issues with the Redster CS will be limited availability and the fact that it has a solid plastic sole. So if you can find a CS 130, you will then need to also add our dual component lifter to it and most like our rubberized, "ShockStopper" boot board. It's a bit more effort to get the CS 130 built as a ""freeski" boot but very much worth it in my opinion.

Can't go wrong either way.

Why? Why is it so damn difficult all the time to just get basic replacement parts or even just parts to make the product work in the first place? It's wild.

 

[onenerdykid]

Why? Why is it so damn difficult all the time to just get basic replacement parts or even just parts to make the product work in the first place? It's wild.

Such as?

It should also be said that the world is still dealing with insane supply chain issues, raw material shortages and lead times that are 5-6 times longer than what they were pre-Covid. And it's honestly far from over.

 

[Chunderface]

Such as?

It should also be said that the world is still dealing with insane supply chain issues, raw material shortages and lead times that are 5-6 times longer than what they were pre-Covid. And it's honestly far from over.

I've needed boot boards, the rivets the screws go into for the straps, and the round metal screw in pieces on either side of the ankle. I was unable to find any of these parts online anywhere. And the broken boot board problem is pretty common.

And where can someone even buy the shockstopper?

**This post was edited on Feb 15th 2023 at 3:34:30pm

 

[onenerdykid]

I've needed boot boards, the rivets the screws go into for the straps, and the round metal screw in pieces on either side of the ankle. I was unable to find any of these parts online anywhere. And the broken boot board problem is pretty common.

And where can someone even buy the shockstopper?

**This post was edited on Feb 15th 2023 at 3:34:30pm

As of right now, we don't sell online (direct to consumer) in North America. So in order to get parts, you need to order them through an Atomic dealer. All of what you are looking for is available, it just needs to be ordered.

 

[plew]

Got a binding compatibility question on the older Hawx Ultra XTD model that I'm wondering if anyone can help me with. I have the 2017/18 women's Hawx Ultra XTD 110 with the old WTR sole (and not gripwalk) in a size 22.5 - the white coloured boot with purple writing. I'm buying a new pair of downhill/resort skis that I will use with my downhill boots (5355 alpine soles) but was considering putting something on like the Marker Duke PT or the Salomon Shifts for the occasional slackcountry tour with my touring boots (I have a dedicated touring setup with G3 zeds/seekr ski). I'm having trouble figuring out though what would be compatible with my Hawx WTR soles - as from some googling, it seems like even that this boot specifically doesn't seem to fit in the Marker Sole ID bindings (Duke PT)? Has anyone used these older WTR soles with the Duke PT? Or the Salomon Shift? Or any other ideas of a downhill orientated binding that is compatible with both a 5355 alpine sole and the Hawx WTR sole. Thanks for any help

 

[japanada]

My shop couldn't get the duke PTs to work with that generation XTDs. Thought about grinding the rocker on the toe down. Ending up going sth and different touring rig.

 

[plew]

My shop couldn't get the duke PTs to work with that generation XTDs. Thought about grinding the rocker on the toe down. Ending up going sth and different touring rig.

Thanks for the reply! Ah damn I was hoping that maybe it could work with the Dukes

 

[cool270out]

Just copped some Ultra XTD 120’s. It’s so comfy with great heel cupping. Excited to see how they compare to the old Full Tilts

 

[cali_invader]

[tag=134699]@onenerdykid[/tag] got a boot quiver question for you, I'm currently on a pair of Hawx ultra xtd 130s which have been great for touring and most resort days. When I'm driving my heavier skis or in thick cruddy snow, I definitely feel like I could use more damping and suspension from the boots, they're also showing signs of wear in the plastic so I I'm looking at adding a strictly resort boot to use.

Should I be looking at the Hawx Ultra 130 S for a resort boot or something like the Redster 130 CS? I don't have a racing background but I like to ski powerfully and hit cliffs/steep features and use chargier skis (moment commanders) for most of my days. The hawx shape fits my foot/ankle super well, but I'm wondering if moving up to the redster would be good for the most stability and control I can get out of a resort boot. I hit the park occasionally, so maybe the agressive lean in the redster would be less than ideal for that. Curious as to your thoughts, thanks!

I have this same boot (~2021 Hawx Ultra xtd 130) and I was looking for a solution to the same problem. I ended up getting the ZipFit GFTs to replace the stock liner. They ski way better now and there wasn't much of a weight tradeoff for touring. If anything the zipfits made touring more comfortable on long outings. I did Shasta on them and I didn't notice them at all, which is a very good thing.

If you haven't tried zipfits yet it might be worth it. They rock.

**This post was edited on Sep 18th 2023 at 12:31:41am

 

[kid-kapow]

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I thought I should just chime in to give my feedback on the new Hawx Ultra 130 GW Boa boot with dual straps installed in the place of the stock ones. I have mine set up with 13 degrees forward lean, I run the spacers and also run custom footbeds. I have not cooked the liners and have three days in them thus far solely for resort use (the use they will see with me, resort fomo + travel boot).

These are by far the best iteration of the Hawx Ultra 130 thus far. The liner is really nice and supportive, heel hold is excellent, the cuff height is nice - the adjustable tongue is a nice feature and the dual strap actually works with this boot (something they did not do when I tried to run them on Lange XT3s - work = performance upgrade instead of just more hassle over Booster straps).

I do not get what SkiEssentials go on about in their review with regard to fit - these are not tiny wrt fit. Scarpa Quattro XTs are a lot lower volume.

The cons thus far is that like all three generations of Hawx that I've tried thus far these do not keep water out. I do not know why this remain an issue, but oh well - it is a spring time issue so no deal breaker, just a bit annoying. They are also the creakiest boots I've ever had. I've never had a boot that is anywhere near as loud when it is being flexed, though - it is not really an issue when skiing as your attention is elsewhere going mach looney or just larking about.

Overall impression? Excellent boot - perfect score of 5/7. Will def recommend.

 

[onenerdykid]

I thought I should just chime in to give my feedback on the new Hawx Ultra 130 GW Boa boot with dual straps installed in the place of the stock ones. I have mine set up with 13 degrees forward lean, I run the spacers and also run custom footbeds. I have not cooked the liners and have three days in them thus far solely for resort use (the use they will see with me, resort fomo + travel boot).

These are by far the best iteration of the Hawx Ultra 130 thus far. The liner is really nice and supportive, heel hold is excellent, the cuff height is nice - the adjustable tongue is a nice feature and the dual strap actually works with this boot (something they did not do when I tried to run them on Lange XT3s - work = performance upgrade instead of just more hassle over Booster straps).

I do not get what SkiEssentials go on about in their review with regard to fit - these are not tiny wrt fit. Scarpa Quattro XTs are a lot lower volume.

The cons thus far is that like all three generations of Hawx that I've tried thus far these do not keep water out. I do not know why this remain an issue, but oh well - it is a spring time issue so no deal breaker, just a bit annoying. They are also the creakiest boots I've ever had. I've never had a boot that is anywhere near as loud when it is being flexed, though - it is not really an issue when skiing as your attention is elsewhere going mach looney or just larking about.

Overall impression? Excellent boot - perfect score of 5/7. Will def recommend.

Right on, glad you are 5/7 stoked

Keeping your boots dry in the spring time is a bit of a unicorn. When the plastic gets softer due to the warmer temps, it flexes/distorts more and every time that happens, a bit more wet snow gets in. My feet often get wet in the spring, but not in the winter due to this.

Re: squeaking - it's usually a result of dirt or other contaminants getting in between the cuff and shell where they overlay. Give the shells a gentle clean with some soap and water and then hit the overlay area with some silicone spray. You'll be ninja quiet then.

**This post was edited on May 4th 2024 at 4:42:36am

 

[kid-kapow]

Re: squeaking - it's usually a result of dirt or other contaminants getting in between the cuff and shell where they overlay. Give the shells a gentle clean with some soap and water and then hit the overlay area with some silicone spray. You'll be ninja quiet then.

Thanks for sharing the secret to ninja quietness

 

[PartyBullshiit]

Overall impression? Excellent boot - perfect score of 5/7. Will def recommend.[/quote]

they sound like great boots and you’re really enjoying them. But I don’t think you under stand how a perfect score works lol.

 

[kid-kapow]

But I don’t think you under stand how a perfect score works lol.

Your answer made me laugh out loud - so thanks for that

Just google "perfect score 5/7" and prepare to laugh a bit - it is an oldie but still funny.