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listen jack, he doesn't have a contract that just because he gets paid to ski that he has to represent himself as a 'professional' he gets paid to represent himself. if people had a problem with that i imagine they would stop paying him. Im not sure how you want him to present himself would you like hime to act like a 40 year old businnes man with a suit on, that is a brown nosed, uppclass memeber of society that we should all look up to inspire to be or something?

I don;t understand why you care so much?

oh and stop ragging on people's spelling and grammer on the internet, it the internet! it's not a published book.

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i also agree with lanks on that one, the denver post needs to get a grip.

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i also agree with lanks on that one, the denver post needs to get a grip.

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^well if you decide to tell them that, make sure to use proper spelling, grammar and punctuation. lol. seriously, though.

 
word to kev. I really don't like the fact that this guy can get this sorta shit published. What is his ultimate goal here? I propose we get a picture of this guy on the site so we all know what he looks like and we can tell him what we think about his hateful writing towards individuals. Shove a race ski up his ass!

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^ why? it's a forum it isn't english class, you can easily understand what im talking about. that's what matters, the whole point of this is to able to get a point across, are you going to shun people who can't speak english well too? cause there are many euro skiers on here that have trouble with english and their grammer, maybe we should just ignore them cause they can't write properly?

get my point?

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we aren't ignoring you, we are pointing out that you write like Tanner Hall conducts himself, like an immature idiot

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and to kendrick, he gets my point doesnt he?? At least i took the time to give him a peice of my mind, and now he is going to take his time to read what i have to say.

Im not going to spend much time editing. He will probably be surprised at such a fast response. I'm really not to worried about punctuation on the internet either.

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'The toughest trick in pipe now seems to be the elusive

1080-to-respectable interview' Kendrick gets the quote of the day. This sums up the entire argument. Respectable, yes he gave Dumont his respect but what about the media? If you say Fuck the media...then you should say fuck the progression of our sport as well. Media ESPN in particular chooses to put on X-games so you can watch on national TV our sport. This sport is focused around having fun, you can't always win, even if you are the best in the world. Judges have different opinions and that is the nature of judging. They chose Dumont. There was just a lack of respect for the interview in general therefore Disrespecting the media source that is helping us out. At least look Davenport in the eye and say 'I thought I had the best run I could do, I landed every trick, but today Dumont stepped it up as well and the judges favored him. I am upset but had fun and Dumont is my boy so I am happy for him.' Almost exactly what he did say but done in a tactful way.

My opinion obviously, but Tanner hall in a lot of ways is Newschool skiing and we all have a vested interest in that.

 
I definitely get your point. I was unimpressed by the first round of retaliatory letters to this guy when he wrote shit about Tanner's comments about racing. Why? Because they sounded like angry little bitches who know very little. That's just not going to help the situation. I have mixed feelings about this whole thing. On one hand, I'm mad at the guy for slandering Tanner and freeskiers. But on the other hand, I think maybe you're going to get criticized a little if you act like a sore loser in your interviews... criticism often leads to change for the better, and maybe that's a good thing in this case. Davenport and ESPN were the people directly responsible for huge exposure for Tanner, but he sort of dissed them by snubbing Davenport's question. NEVER bite the hand that feeds you. Even if you think you're the cat's meow and god's gift to skiing

 
^ again I agree with that. As for Davenport, he bit the hand that feeds in some ways as well by calling out Tanner. Be the bigger man even though Tanner did it first. Denver Post guy, I still don't know what to think about this guy other than he reads a post and thinks he understands. Looking through a window at a pair of skis does not mean you know what it is like to ride them. He uses our passion to write about it like it is his but ironically enough does not have the passion for the sport (newschool skiing not skiing in general) that we do, yet he writes about it as if he does and is part of our community.

 
he didnt even act all that disrespectful. he was just disappointed in the judging, and a little bitter. but think about it... it was the second time in a weekend that he marginally lost out on a gold medal, which by the way also brings with it more prize money, and more fame (he would have been the only man to 4-peat, and everybody would have gone nuts). so taking all those factors into consideration, his behavior wasnt out of the ordinary at all.

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Well, if I sent a letter to someone attempting to express my dislike for something he wrote, I'd take the time to make sure it was sound, both grammatically and structurally. Unless the author of the email wants it to be thrown directly into the recycling bin, I'd avoid words like 'dis.' It's called credibility and that email lacked it.

Now: when the fuck did I say I want Tanner Hall in a suit, being a brown noser, inspiring everyone? All I ask is that he act mature when the fucking television cameras are on for the betterment of our sport. Don't put words in my fucking mouth you little prick. If you don't care about the image of our sport (you probably don't, you've expressed how much you care already), then don't be surprised when things like the X games, Freeze, the US Open, and overall funding for newschool events gets their funding cut. Don't kid yourself: NS skiing doesn't mean shit to businesses. They can prosper off snowboarding alone. You want to present us as a bunch of dumbfucks, be my guest. I'm as dead set on having fun and kickin ass as the next guy, but there is a time and a place.

Davenport said it best. Tanner is a great guy (supposedly), but he could improve his attitude.

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hopefully both sides realize you point. it's a 2 way relationship without tanner and the growth of the sport, davenport would be in a ski bar somehwhere not making $$, as much as he is know, and the denver post wouldn't be able to print such articles.

people always have expectations, and usually they arn't met, not to sound cynical, i understand i do, but this i what happens.

i lost track of where i was going.

stop the hate and relate.

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i belive that hall should be like a wise show-lin master, you know. hes been in the game for so long hes got to grow up a lil and respect the fact that he is constantly being watched. he created this, he should know how to handle it by now. and i never herd the rollerblading comment but i actually feel bad for gangier knowing that he went out there and did wat feels comfortable and won and got bashed cause he was infuenced by roller blading? come on. Skiing is skiing.

 
When Picabo Street made it on the World Cup, the media and the public both liked her because she was a breath of fresh air in the stuck up sport of racing. She wasn't afraid to let her emotions show, which I respect because it shows that she's human. And Bode Miller doesn't like the fact that he's a role model because he realizes that he's not perfect all the time and doesn't want kids to watch him get pissed off and think that thats the way to go.

As far as Tanner goes, a lot of skiers were commenting on the somewhat shady judging... why is he the only one that gets called out on it? I personally have a lot of respect for him because he tells it like it is... no bullshit.

The Olympics are a different calliber (sp) of competition... these guys are not stupid. I think they would realize that they are representing a lot more than just themselves, but their country as well, and act in a respectable way.

It's all a matter of opinion... and honestly I don't think Tanner is really worried about other people's opinions as long as he's happy with himself...

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Lanks it wasn't just his response to Davenport. It's his entire attitude and behavior. He was drinking a beer in the warm up tent. He makes references to weed on national television with lots of kids (who don't need the extra drug influence) watching. CR Johnson--same thing. But no one is looking to him for leadership. Tanner got ARRESTED for being drunk and spouting off his mouth saying shit like 'do you know who I am? I'm Tanner Hall.' Wow. When I hear that I go, 'Yeah, that's the guy I want representing our sport.'

An arrogant, immature, but very talented, roel model. You want the camera time? You have to deal with it when people expect you to be professional. Oh and Kev that doesn't mean wearing suit.

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im not putting owrd in your mouth buddy, if you know your 'grammer' you could see that that 'buisness suit brown nose' was in the form of a question, followed by generally asking you hwat you meant. So clam down and don;t get your panties in a bunch im just trying to understand where your coming from, maybe if you did't respond in such immature manners, swearing ranting and raving we could actually get your point, and actually take you serouisly instead of veiwing as this hot and heavy kid blasting off on his keyboard.

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Kev:

people need to pull there head's out of there ass and not give a fuck, skiing needs a role model, fuck that, tanner can do whatever he wants, he has no obligation to do anything, you guys are even worse you sitting back and crying about, bo hoo i wish tanner was nicer, you need a slap in the face. Ya sure if he was a super professional perfect human being and represnted himself as JESUS on skis people would love him, and it would probably be better off for the sport. But he isn;t, and let me tell you, i don;t care, he can do whatever he wants in my books.

stop complaining.

You mean like you? Is that how you try and understand where I'm coming from?

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Tanner Hall acted like a real pussy after the superpipe finals. He has skills, yes, but the message he is sending about our sport is not a good one. He bad mouths other riders when he doesn't win, and he cries like my 5 year old cousin when he doesn't get his way. He has to come to the realization that he is a role model for many, and good role models dont do the shit that he does. What he does on his own time is okay, but not in national tv. Drinking beer in the tent, and after a run saying 'this right here, this is the chronic crew' i mean th at is horrible. In my opinion he is nothing but an arrogant stuck up rich white boy, who thinks he is black, and is a group called the chronic crew, he is a total fuck up and bad for our sport.

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jack you are so critical. you should work for the american censorship board.

i understand where you are coming from, but no one is perfect, and people can do whatever they want - to an extent, and i think he presents himself alot better than alot of other athletes i have seen. he is young, have you ever gotten drunk and shot your mouth off? have you ever done drugs? He formally apologized, anywho im not here to defend tanner i could care less and that's the ppoint, we shouldn't care so much, just go out there and represent yourself in the way you please to others, and im sure you do present yourslef to other as a skier on and off the hill to other in a respectful manner.YOU can make a difference instead of critizing someone else, cause he can do whatever he pleases and so can you.

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Conceptkid: you don't like that he can get this kind of thing published? It's in the god damn 1st Ammendment. It's a 'God given right.' Free Press, free speech my friend. The founding fathers were not stupid.

Now if you want to get into media ownership that's a whole other story...

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What happened to good grammer skills?

I have made my point about this tanner thing, im done.

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dude, the grammar doesn't matter here but it does matter when you are writing to a newspaper to bitch about their content, get it?

 
Thank you for acknowledging my point.

You're right. I can and do present myself how I want. But I don't have the burden of being famous. He does. His actions can have HUGE impacts on peoples lives, especially the young people of our sport. Keep in mind our youngest competitor at the X games was a 17 year old. The majority of NS skiers are younger than that. They are easily influenced.

To answer your question: Yes, I have done some of the things you mentioned, but I'm not a 'celebrity.' I don't influence people through massive conglomerate media outlets.

I'm not hatin' I'm just sayin' I'm gonna take your advice and go drop a cliff somewhere.

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IMO this Scott Willoughby is a sour little bitch of a racer. Obviously, he feels threatened by THall in some manner, maybe he thinks his kids will be influenced by Tanner more than Bode or something. I think he needs to get out and ski more, then maybe he would feel a little better, healthier and write about something positive instead of slandering thall, and taking tanner's behavior personally. willoughby, you poor sour little tart biatch- I feel pity for your offspring.

 
Ah, you had to go and ruin it. Tried to be nice and look where it got me.

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me too peace.

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sorry i was expecting the late / nice response.

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wasn't

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Glad you guys can kiss and make up.

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Scott Willoughby, last time i cheaked he dident win 3 gold medals, oh and another in big aaair,i think he does not havw the right willingly to write about something he is not, and never will be a part of.

just back off of freeskiing if you read this, we just wanna ski and have fun is that a problem? if you answerd yes, you need some serious help and to stop writting articles.

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Every time I read something from the Denver post, I think to myself, 'This guy has no idea what he's talking about'. Nothing without the Xgames? To hell with the Xgames. They do us more harm than good, catering to people who know nothing about skiing... progression of the sport my ass, when you have a glorified high jump event for 'superpipe' just because the 110 million folks at home don't know hucked from smooth, you're not progressing the sport. No sport should have to cater to its audience, and yet the judges lean a certain way based on what they think the majority of their viewers want. So don't give me this 'we need the X-games' crap, because I neither need it nor want it. You talk about Tanner misrepresenting the sport? As far as I'm concerned, the way the X-games portray us is worse.

As for the interview, you ask a stupid question, you get a stupid answer. Hell, Gagnier was at a loss when they interviewed him after slopestyle, too. I thought he was incredibly composed, considering what they were asking him. More to the point, I was impressed that he was able to control himself based on the sort of person he is. Tanner may represent the image we want people associating with the sport all of the time, but one thing he is is a competitor. He's extremely passionate about what he does, and that's part, I'm sure, of what makes him the best. If I have to choose between that competitive fire and a cool, composed tact in an interview by a fool for millions of people who know nothing about skiing sitting around in their living rooms saying 'WOW, look how HIGH that little guy went', it's really not a tough choice.

One more thing... Tanner isn't paid to represent the sport. He's paid to represent his sponsors, most notably Armada. He IS Armada. Because of that, he is accountable to no one. Maybe you'd prefer someone else as our icon, and I could think of a few other people I'd choose in that capacity, as well, but he's under no obligation to change the way he looks at the sport, nor the person he is, just because some exec at ESPN decided this was the guy to keep the cameras pointed at all night long.

I have so much more to say about this that it bothers me to cut this post short, but I've had enough. The Denver post needs to stop publishing sensationalist articles to get kids on here riled up and to spark industry drama. 'Racer poise'? Acting like a 10 year old? Sounds to me like the only one flinging hate around is Willoughby, and that's about as foolish and immature as anything. If condescending, thinly veiled trash talk is 'racer poise', then I want no truck with racing. However, that's not the case. Some racers are complete jackasses, some are great guys, and so it goes with every sport, or profession; case in point, while some writers are down to earth, cool guys, this one just happens to be an arrogant, self-important joke. We're all skiers, stop worrying about some guy who won a bunch of comps who you'll never meet, quit the hating, and ride the way you want to.

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It was so refreshing to see Sean Fields, smile ear-to-ear, psyched to be there. He seemed to be having the most fun, and that is usually a recipe for winning. Won't be long now and we'll have some upbeat interviews from Sean, wherever he winds up on the podium. After all, it's all about fun, right? I hope that my friend Tanner finds fun and satisfaction in his runs whether he wins or not. Then he wouldn't have to worry about his interview, because it would be all good. :)

 
the guy said that Thall is famous because of the X-games and ESPN and should be thankful, hes famous because hes an excellent skier and he got sponserd not because of them, they didnt make him good, or get him sponsered

 
'...Hall because they lack the poise of ski racers.'

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Sweet Tanner, there lableing freeskiers as spoiled snot nose rollerblading brats. Learn how to act in life. Your not black, nobody cares if your high, Nobody likes anyone says thing like 'do you know I am bitch', if you think that your trying to creat a dark side image it's not working because everyonwe knows you come from rich parent and boarding schools, red-bull will dump your soon as your hurt, Amarda will be done sooner than later. Have fun Buck. It must suck to be so hated. It's funny how your the one we all read about on this thread when it comes to hate. Fucking rich kid. Go back to your tuff life of growing in Utah and Montana.

 
I fucking hate Tanner. I hope he breaks his back and can never ski. Then he might realize how selfish he really is. KARMA

 
you guys who hate tanner really need to give the guy some props. sure, he lost his temper a few times and everyone thought is was a huge fuckin deal because he basically is the most popular freeskier and he cant get away with expressing himself and letting it out. i bet he does regret it afterward when rumors about him start to permeate, but that not his fault. after being infront of the cameras for so many years it can get to you and interfere with your life. that probly why hes as cocky as he is, tho that is funny, and he deserves props cuz hes an ill skier. but hes not ghetto.

 
ahhaha let us not forget that this man is a writer for the denver post snow sports section, more people have probably read it in this thread than have in the paper

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hall goes crazy cuz he loves doing what he is doing and if him getting siked and happy is bad i don't know what this world is coming to....personally i think dumont acted like a dipshit after winning the superpipe. but you dont hear people cryin about that.

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