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Well century makes the draco why are you opposed to them? One of my best buds has a century draco and I could chuck that thing off a cliff into a muddy hot spring and it would still fire when I took it out. I also have a handgun imported by century (canik from turkey) and it’s as reliable as any other firearm I’ve ever owned.

14217812:JAHpow said:
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Anybody following this pistol brace ATF garbage? Glad they withdrew that letter.

Who knows stuff about AKs? My new gun endeavor is building a Draco . Full SLR furniture preferred. What manufacturer should I be looking at that isn't century arms?

Middle is goals-

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Ok boys , I need help, I just purchased a tristar semi automatic 12 gauge and it is my first gun. I believe I assembled it correctly but I am unsure , also do I need to clean/ lubricate it out of the box? Should I bring it to a gun smith before I use it? It said in the box to fire heavy or magnum loads to break it in, is this necessary? I want to be safe and not explode or ruin the gun. I appreciate the help.
 
14217885:DesertStix said:
Well century makes the draco why are you opposed to them? One of my best buds has a century draco and I could chuck that thing off a cliff into a muddy hot spring and it would still fire when I took it out. I also have a handgun imported by century (canik from turkey) and it’s as reliable as any other firearm I’ve ever owned.
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I should clarify that I want a forged receiver. Maybe century has milled recievers? Idk. I'm willing to have my mind changed. In my very brief search I came up with Arsenal or Sharps had decent milled stuff. I just don't want stamped. The AK realm is a foreign language to me, literally and figuratively.
 
14217886:galardogod said:
Ok boys , I need help, I just purchased a tristar semi automatic 12 gauge and it is my first gun. I believe I assembled it correctly but I am unsure , also do I need to clean/ lubricate it out of the box? Should I bring it to a gun smith before I use it? It said in the box to fire heavy or magnum loads to break it in, is this necessary? I want to be safe and not explode or ruin the gun. I appreciate the help.
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So long as you followed the instructions for assembly you should be good to go. Watch a YouTube vid if you're not sure. The ratcheting nut on the end of the magazine tube is only supposed to be tightened down by hand for easy disassembly. Wiping it down out of the box is fine. I use CLP for my gun oil. As for breaking in, if they say to do that then do it. Although, I've never heard of having to break in a shotgun, maybe that's to loosen up the recoil system for lighter loads? I assume this is a 3 1/2 inch gun, which I've never needed, so maybe that's sop for those. I just take mine out and shoot them.

Have fun with your new shotgun!
 
14217886:galardogod said:
Ok boys , I need help, I just purchased a tristar semi automatic 12 gauge and it is my first gun. I believe I assembled it correctly but I am unsure , also do I need to clean/ lubricate it out of the box? Should I bring it to a gun smith before I use it? It said in the box to fire heavy or magnum loads to break it in, is this necessary? I want to be safe and not explode or ruin the gun. I appreciate the help.
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Congrats on your first gun! A bit of lube on the moving parts never hurts but it should be good to go out of the box.

Just fyi, most 12 gauge shotguns have 3" chambers and can fire both 2 3/4" (two and three quarter inch) and 3" shells, but not 3 1/2" shells. The barrel should be stamped with the correct chamber size. Just something to be aware of, choosing shot shells was a little confusing for me at first.

PS. 3 inch 1600 fps+ magnum shells are a shit ton of fun
 
14217907:JAHpow said:
So long as you followed the instructions for assembly you should be good to go. Watch a YouTube vid if you're not sure. The ratcheting nut on the end of the magazine tube is only supposed to be tightened down by hand for easy disassembly. Wiping it down out of the box is fine. I use CLP for my gun oil. As for breaking in, if they say to do that then do it. Although, I've never heard of having to break in a shotgun, maybe that's to loosen up the recoil system for lighter loads? I assume this is a 3 1/2 inch gun, which I've never needed, so maybe that's sop for those. I just take mine out and shoot them.

Have fun with your new shotgun!
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It fired! Well kind of , it fired the first round then jammed , I was able to get the rounds out and continue to use it single shot style and manually eject the cartridge after . I was using 2 3/4 inch #7 bird shot and I don’t think it was heavy enough to cycle. So I am going to spray some CLP on all the moving parts and try some 3inch #3 shot duck loads and see if that works better. I had a big misconception and thought I couldn’t fire steel loads out of the choke my gun came with (modified) so I bought a IC choke but as it would turn out you can fire steel out a modified and slugs for that matter so I think I’ll return my choke .
 
14218063:galardogod said:
It fired! Well kind of , it fired the first round then jammed , I was able to get the rounds out and continue to use it single shot style and manually eject the cartridge after . I was using 2 3/4 inch #7 bird shot and I don’t think it was heavy enough to cycle. So I am going to spray some CLP on all the moving parts and try some 3inch #3 shot duck loads and see if that works better. I had a big misconception and thought I couldn’t fire steel loads out of the choke my gun came with (modified) so I bought a IC choke but as it would turn out you can fire steel out a modified and slugs for that matter so I think I’ll return my choke .
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In what way was it jamming? I can only guess that it was a round issue. If you were shooting low brass #7 then a stiff recoil system probably won't cycle great. Run some high brass 3" stuff through it. You're not going to damage it.

And certainly spray moving parts down, but don't just douse it. Shotguns run pretty dirty in the first place so you don't want heavy oily sludge building up. Just wipe everything down with a thin coat of oil.
 
14217812:JAHpow said:
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Who knows stuff about AKs? My new gun endeavor is building a Draco . Full SLR furniture preferred. What manufacturer should I be looking at that isn't century arms?
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That looks sick!

I shot a few Rifle Dynamics AKs recently and they're 100% worth the money. Personally wouldn't spend money on a Draco or stuff from Century *right now*, but if you're set on it then go with the Century. Despite being location dependant, I would creep @rms li$t because I've been seeing some cool AKs pop up on there over the last couple of months, across multiple states.
 
What do you mean by “right now”

14218113:Twinjibber77 said:
That looks sick!

I shot a few Rifle Dynamics AKs recently and they're 100% worth the money. Personally wouldn't spend money on a Draco or stuff from Century *right now*, but if you're set on it then go with the Century. Despite being location dependant, I would creep @rms li$t because I've been seeing some cool AKs pop up on there over the last couple of months, across multiple states.
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14218096:JAHpow said:
In what way was it jamming? I can only guess that it was a round issue. If you were shooting low brass #7 then a stiff recoil system probably won't cycle great. Run some high brass 3" stuff through it. You're not going to damage it.

And certainly spray moving parts down, but don't just douse it. Shotguns run pretty dirty in the first place so you don't want heavy oily sludge building up. Just wipe everything down with a thin coat of oil.
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The round did not eject and the next round got put underneath it
 
14218136:DesertStix said:
What do you mean by “right now”
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First and foremost: QA/QC is out the window right now and I don't think it's worth paying full price (and beyond) to deal with issues. If it was here and there, then I wouldn't bat an eye, but following some of the FB groups with the 5-6 digit number of members, I'm seeing an incredible amount of issues right out of the box. From my experience with Century in the past, it was always hit or miss, now multiply that by the current climate and it's real sketchy.

Sparknotes: stuff is going for retail and way over so companies are pumping them out regardless of how well the fit, finish, and functionality turns out. Warranties are tight, but right now that's going to take a LONG time just to receive another questionable item.
 
I thought I had responded to this previously but I guess not. I have a Tula 1943 Mosin-Nagant 91/30.

I, also, have a post-war Czech made Kar98k. Basically, the Czechs would purposely fuck up parts at the Brno factory (same factory as CZUSA) when under German occupation and building mausers for the German war effort. After the war, they took these parts, scrubbed the symbols (Swastikas, etc.) and retooled them. Some parts were different like the trigger guards are winter trigger guards. These guns were then sold all over. Many were sold to Israel and then bored from an 8mm Mauser to a 7.62. Mine is original 8mm with mirror bore.

Here is a really bad photo. I love it.

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I’ve always been more into historical rifles with wood stocks and bolt actions. I want an MAS-36 and a K-31 too.
 
14225503:BradFiAusNzCoCa said:
I thought I had responded to this previously but I guess not. I have a Tula 1943 Mosin-Nagant 91/30.

I, also, have a post-war Czech made Kar98k. Basically, the Czechs would purposely fuck up parts at the Brno factory (same factory as CZUSA) when under German occupation and building mausers for the German war effort. After the war, they took these parts, scrubbed the symbols (Swastikas, etc.) and retooled them. Some parts were different like the trigger guards are winter trigger guards. These guns were then sold all over. Many were sold to Israel and then bored from an 8mm Mauser to a 7.62. Mine is original 8mm with mirror bore.

Here is a really bad photo. I love it.

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I’ve always been more into historical rifles with wood stocks and bolt actions. I want an MAS-36 and a K-31 too.
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Thats sick. Historical rifles are fun asf. I'm saving for a nice Enfield at the moment.
 
14225503:BradFiAusNzCoCa said:
I thought I had responded to this previously but I guess not. I have a Tula 1943 Mosin-Nagant 91/30.

I, also, have a post-war Czech made Kar98k. Basically, the Czechs would purposely fuck up parts at the Brno factory (same factory as CZUSA) when under German occupation and building mausers for the German war effort. After the war, they took these parts, scrubbed the symbols (Swastikas, etc.) and retooled them. Some parts were different like the trigger guards are winter trigger guards. These guns were then sold all over. Many were sold to Israel and then bored from an 8mm Mauser to a 7.62. Mine is original 8mm with mirror bore.

Here is a really bad photo. I love it.

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I’ve always been more into historical rifles with wood stocks and bolt actions. I want an MAS-36 and a K-31 too.
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First gun I ever bought was a Polish M44. I don't have it anymore but I too really like the old military rifles.

I admit, after seeing the movie Enemy at the Gates I had to buy the M91/30 sniper rifle. Only had it for a few years due to changes in interest and friend groups but still was a sweet rifle.
 
14225955:grantlewis_dntm said:
heyyyy thats up skyline drive in bountiful isn't it?! or am i crazy
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You are not crazy, you’re 100% correct. That’s the third turnoff, a mile or two above the parking lot. Good eye!
 
14226009:danbrown said:
You are not crazy, you’re 100% correct. That’s the third turnoff, a mile or two above the parking lot. Good eye!
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Haha nice, I was going to say, I've been shooting up there enough and i was almost positive that that was exactly what I thought it was lol
 
can someone recommend a solid basic AR15 cleaning kit and a good tutorial video or instructional writeup? I don't have one and have no clue what I'm doing
 
14228650:danbrown said:
can someone recommend a solid basic AR15 cleaning kit and a good tutorial video or instructional writeup? I don't have one and have no clue what I'm doing
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Here's a decent start. There's plenty of 'kits' out there but a lot of components are poorly made and you'll only use half of them anyways.

Essentials would be:

patches

composite cleaning rod (steel is probably fine but can scratch up the chamber). I'd choose this over a bore snake because it is less likely to break and get stuck inside the barrel.

Chamber brush (nylon or brass)

Q tips

Rags/paper towels

CLP (clean/lubricate/protect) I use breakfree clp, it's a great lubricant and cuts carbon well during cleaning.

Aside from that, you can get obsessive about cleaning and there's tons of tools and bits and oils and greases and whatnots to make life easier, but most aren't neccessary. AR's are easy to clean and as long as you keep some oil on them they won't let you down.
 
Hickok45 has some awesome videos on the history of certain rifles

14228676:Biffbarf said:
Here's a decent start. There's plenty of 'kits' out there but a lot of components are poorly made and you'll only use half of them anyways.

Essentials would be:

patches

composite cleaning rod (steel is probably fine but can scratch up the chamber). I'd choose this over a bore snake because it is less likely to break and get stuck inside the barrel.

Chamber brush (nylon or brass)

Q tips

Rags/paper towels

CLP (clean/lubricate/protect) I use breakfree clp, it's a great lubricant and cuts carbon well during cleaning.

Aside from that, you can get obsessive about cleaning and there's tons of tools and bits and oils and greases and whatnots to make life easier, but most aren't neccessary. AR's are easy to clean and as long as you keep some oil on them they won't let you down.
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14228814:galardogod said:
What’s everyone’s opinion of CLP? , I have read a mixed bag.
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Not bad, but Slip2000, FireClean, and Chery Balmz are all better/easier to work with. I do NOT recommend Rem Oil or FrogLube. Additionally, anything claiming to be super safe to work with due to "organic" nature or "biodegradable" is pretty much just bullshit marketing and it does not have lubricating properties on par with the aforementioned (or straight CLP).
 
14228650:danbrown said:
can someone recommend a solid basic AR15 cleaning kit and a good tutorial video or instructional writeup? I don't have one and have no clue what I'm doing
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I agree with his response above and I just wanted to mention that there's no need to frequently clean an AR. An understanding of proper lubrication and one deep clean per year is the way. I used to clean after every time I went to the range and not only was it a waste, but it probably did more harm than good.

This article has some awesome info:https://www.arbuildjunkie.com/ar-15-lubrication-an-interview-with-cherrybalmz/
 
14229018:Twinjibber77 said:
I agree with his response above and I just wanted to mention that there's no need to frequently clean an AR. An understanding of proper lubrication and one deep clean per year is the way. I used to clean after every time I went to the range and not only was it a waste, but it probably did more harm than good.

This article has some awesome info:https://www.arbuildjunkie.com/ar-15-lubrication-an-interview-with-cherrybalmz/
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Thanks, again. I bought it brand new in October, have probably put 2-300 rounds through it? I don’t shoot it too often due to the obvious ammo shortage but I try to go to the range or out to the desert a couple times a month.
 
14217885:DesertStix said:
Well century makes the draco why are you opposed to them? One of my best buds has a century draco and I could chuck that thing off a cliff into a muddy hot spring and it would still fire when I took it out. I also have a handgun imported by century (canik from turkey) and it’s as reliable as any other firearm I’ve ever owned.
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Dont century aks have a reputation for being american trash tho?
 
14292558:JAHpow said:
November 22nd should a national holiday celebrating Eugene stoner
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He created the ar-15 m16 design but ppl say it was a modification of the french MAS 49 which was a shit rifle to start with.

ar-15s — i would respect stoner if his gun was as reliable and dependable as an ak47 but from everything if read online and seen in videos the ar-15 (even the best ones) are nowhere close in reliability to an ak variant.

i dont get why so many ppl are so in love with the ar-15.

its like having pride in your 1995 range rover.
 
14217812:JAHpow said:
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So I painted it-

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Anybody following this pistol brace ATF garbage? Glad they withdrew that letter.

Who knows stuff about AKs? My new gun endeavor is building a Draco . Full SLR furniture preferred. What manufacturer should I be looking at that isn't century arms?

Middle is goals-

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What do you mean the atf withdrew the letter about pistol braces? I thought the latest open letter from atf said that you could use a pistol brace however you wanted to as long as it could function reasonably well as an arm brace.
 
14181421:momsrent said:
no u have me all twisted in a big knot sir I don't believe in totalitarian Dom power governments I do however believe in power bottom governments
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Sorry i dont know why i went off on you.

i do think some gun nuts are indeed nut cases.
 
14175928:Lonely said:
I'd love a cheap shitty 6 shooter for plinking on days I want to feel like a cowboy
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Meh

14178561:T.L. said:
Palmetto State Armory used to be considered low quality crap. Now it appears they're taking over the world.

Their new Dagger was just released and sold out instantly. It's based on a Gen3 Glock 19 and will accept most if not all aftermarket parts for that gun.

MSRP is $299...
https://palmettostatearmory.com/palmetto-dagger.html


What I'm waiting for is the new PSA5, a affordable MP5 clone. Rumor is it will be well under $1000

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Im always suspicious of these private companies in america that make their own shit as if good gunmaking was some participation trophy type shit.

like yeah a bolt action is pretty hard to fuck up if you have a clue what you are doing but if you are just making your own semi auto home defense rig, you really have to know what you are doing. Unless you are just copying the design of a weapon made by zeh chermanz. In which case your rifle is just copy cat garbage you will only sell to overly patriotic idiots.
 
14298232:DolansLebensraum said:
He created the ar-15 m16 design but ppl say it was a modification of the french MAS 49 which was a shit rifle to start with.

ar-15s — i would respect stoner if his gun was as reliable and dependable as an ak47 but from everything if read online and seen in videos the ar-15 (even the best ones) are nowhere close in reliability to an ak variant.

i dont get why so many ppl are so in love with the ar-15.

its like having pride in your 1995 range rover.
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Apparently you need to inform the 95 countries, including the United States of America, that issue a variant of the AR-15 to their service members that they're using a dogshit gun.

14298233:DolansLebensraum said:
What do you mean the atf withdrew the letter about pistol braces? I thought the latest open letter from atf said that you could use a pistol brace however you wanted to as long as it could function reasonably well as an arm brace.
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If you could read you'd notice that post was from 6 months ago when a different letter was submitted by the ATF.
 
You’re talking to an idiot who’s currently banned and who knows how many times in that’s happened to his stupid ass in the last 6 months lol

14298270:JAHpow said:
Apparently you need to inform the 95 countries, including the United States of America, that issue a variant of the AR-15 to their service members that they're using a dogshit gun.

If you could read you'd notice that post was from 6 months ago when a different letter was submitted by the ATF.
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If Trump had said what Biden said yesterday, the mainstream news would've spun his words to say that he implied using F-15s and nukes against American citizens. But, of course, there's just zero coverage of what Biden said to begin with.

Fuck this dystopia.
 
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14299674:JAHpow said:
If Trump had said what Biden said yesterday, the mainstream news would've spun his words to say that he implied using F-15s and nukes against American citizens. But, of course, there's just zero coverage of what Biden said to begin with.

Fuck this dystopia.
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Nah I don’t do mainstream media. Andrew (allgasnobrakes) at channel 5 the only news I need

14299713:JAHpow said:
You approve of subjective journalism and partial narrative coverage?

I recommend you step out of your echo chamber at least once in your life.
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bump. new 43x with the 10rd mags they bless us with in WA. aim is still pretty squirrely cause i only shot rifles growing up but at 25 cents a round i’ve been getting lots of practice in
 
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