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970260.jpegBest photo I can come up with of my newest (I think)

Bergera HMR chambered in .308 with a Vortex Gen II PST 5-25x50 on a 20 MOA scope mount

My only regret is not getting a 6.5 CM, it’s capable of 1,000 yards but not as repeatable as my buddy’s 6.5 RPR
 
14165545:soulskier said:
View attachment 970260Best photo I can come up with of my newest (I think)

Bergera HMR chambered in .308 with a Vortex Gen II PST 5-25x50 on a 20 MOA scope mount

My only regret is not getting a 6.5 CM, it’s capable of 1,000 yards but not as repeatable as my buddy’s 6.5 RPR
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My rifle is in 6.5 creedmoor. Ive seen vids of tikka t3x ctr rifles in 6.5 cm getting 5 hits in a row on a torso size target at 1 mile. Most vids show 1000-1100 yard shots which is pretty solid too.
 
Could someone explain to me why handloads (loading your own rounds) are more accurate than match grade ammunition from good ammunition manufacturers?
 
Go fuck yourself

14165593:DolanReloaded said:
Could someone explain to me why handloads (loading your own rounds) are more accurate than match grade ammunition from good ammunition manufacturers?
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Hey what shotgun should i get. Hoping to get both turkey and duck with it, but I’d settle for just a turkey gun.
 
14165653:safarisam said:
Hey what shotgun should i get. Hoping to get both turkey and duck with it, but I’d settle for just a turkey gun.
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I REALLY like the mossberg 930 series semi autos. They are very inexpensive, run very well, are soft shooting and are easy to maintain and service. But it all depends on what you want. Semi auto? pump? budget? etc.
 
14165593:DolanReloaded said:
Could someone explain to me why handloads (loading your own rounds) are more accurate than match grade ammunition from good ammunition manufacturers?
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The biggest benefit you’ll see with handloading is that you are measuring by weight and not by volume...you weigh every powder charge yourself compared to a machine that is essentially dumping a scoop of powder (again, volume) into each piece of brass that comes down a line

Consistent powder weight leads to consistent muzzle velocity

I’ve pulled apart a box of 20 rounds (Federal Gold Medal Match) finding they vary by up to 1.5 grains and when handloading I can get that down to .1-.2 grains

There are similar inconsistencies with seating depth

When accuracy/precision is the goal, you want consistency. This just isn’t practical with a machine pumping out a whole bunch of rounds.
 
14165664:soulskier said:
The biggest benefit you’ll see with handloading is that you are measuring by weight and not by volume...you weigh every powder charge yourself compared to a machine that is essentially dumping a scoop of powder (again, volume) into each piece of brass that comes down a line

Consistent powder weight leads to consistent muzzle velocity

I’ve pulled apart a box of 20 rounds (Federal Gold Medal Match) finding they vary by up to 1.5 grains and when handloading I can get that down to .1-.2 grains

There are similar inconsistencies with seating depth

When accuracy/precision is the goal, you want consistency. This just isn’t practical with a machine pumping out a whole bunch of rounds.
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Damn. Is handloading cheaper too?
 
14165661:Biffbarf said:
I REALLY like the mossberg 930 series semi autos. They are very inexpensive, run very well, are soft shooting and are easy to maintain and service. But it all depends on what you want. Semi auto? pump? budget? etc.
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Semi is fine by me, the action is pretty smooth imo. I just really hate lever actions. Willing to go up to $600 but don’t want to pass that.
 
14165695:safarisam said:
Semi is fine by me, the action is pretty smooth imo. I just really hate lever actions. Willing to go up to $600 but don’t want to pass that.
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Unsure on the price....but my dad picked up a new franchi affinity in a 12g semi....he loves it for duck. I've shit maybe 50 rounds through it and it seems super solid.

I have a Benelli Nova and it fucking sucks. Cheap POS. But that's what I paid for. I've heard the super Nova is a ton better though.

When I get back to hunting I'm taking my dad's old remi wingmaster...og and not the new versions....smooth and 10x better than my Benelli.
 
I took this pic a while back and just wanted to share to NSG. Today marks a year and a half that I've been married to my woman. The picture below shows 3 of the most important things in my life. God, Sarah and my firearms. These past 18 months have been the greatest time of my life with these three and I can't wait for the years to come.

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You trollin extra hard today

14166766:TRVP_ANGEL said:
I took this pic a while back and just wanted to share to NSG. Today marks a year and a half that I've been married to my woman. The picture below shows 3 of the most important things in my life. God, Sarah and my firearms. These past 18 months have been the greatest time of my life with these three and I can't wait for the years to come.

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My gf and I plan to go gun shopping by election time. I’ll always been around guns and have done target shooting but it’s time to buy. Any recommendations? Looking to start small and move to rifles and shotguns once I have a gun safe and more room.

**This post was edited on Aug 21st 2020 at 7:17:39pm
 
14166791:Charlie_Kelly said:
My gf and I plan to go gun shopping by election time. I’ll always been around guns and have done target shooting but it’s time to buy. Any recommendations? Looking to start small and move to rifles and shotguns once I have a gun safe and more room.

**This post was edited on Aug 21st 2020 at 7:17:39pm
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Glock 43x, glock 19, sig p320, cz p10c or p10s, sig p365. Can't go wrong. See what feels best at your local gun shop. Avoid taurus, bersa, sccy, karr, Springfield, and guns that are priced significantly cheaper than the guns I listed above.
 
14166801:Biffbarf said:
Glock 43x, glock 19, sig p320, cz p10c or p10s, sig p365. Can't go wrong. See what feels best at your local gun shop. Avoid taurus, bersa, sccy, karr, Springfield, and guns that are priced significantly cheaper than the guns I listed above.
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Pls post pics of these guns im lazy.
 
Ayo what’s wrong with Springfield? XDm is an absolute nail driver

14166801:Biffbarf said:
Glock 43x, glock 19, sig p320, cz p10c or p10s, sig p365. Can't go wrong. See what feels best at your local gun shop. Avoid taurus, bersa, sccy, karr, Springfield, and guns that are priced significantly cheaper than the guns I listed above.
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14166857:DesertStix said:
Ayo what’s wrong with Springfield? XDm is an absolute nail driver
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If yours is good, that is great. There's a lot documented online about firearms instructors seeing XD's fail more often than other guns. Aside from that, because springfield isn't the OEM of the gun, warranty work is hard to come by. If you need parts build tolerances are poor, so even if you can find replacement parts, they may not fit your gun.
 
14166801:Biffbarf said:
Glock 43x, glock 19, sig p320, cz p10c or p10s, sig p365. Can't go wrong. See what feels best at your local gun shop. Avoid taurus, bersa, sccy, karr, Springfield, and guns that are priced significantly cheaper than the guns I listed above.
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I’ll check them out thanks! Any recommendation for the lady? I was thinking some form of a .22 to help her feel safe and get her confidence in firearms up.
 
14166872:Charlie_Kelly said:
I’ll check them out thanks! Any recommendation for the lady? I was thinking some form of a .22 to help her feel safe and get her confidence in firearms up.
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Browning buckmark or ruger mark IV will be the most reliable semi auto .22's you can get and are awesome to shoot, new shooter or not.

A lot of time people try to sell women the smallest, lightest handgun but the more compact they are the harder they are to shoot. Any of the 9mm handguns I listed above will be great for a new shooter as well. See if you can find those guns I listed at a shop, hold them, align the sights and dry fire them (in a safe direction and after asking, of course) and find what is most intuitive for her (and you).
 
Ehh that was not my experience with Springfield when I owned an XDm. They had excellent customer service when I needed anything. Don’t own one anymore so I’m 100% impartial ?‍♂️

14166869:Biffbarf said:
If yours is good, that is great. There's a lot documented online about firearms instructors seeing XD's fail more often than other guns. Aside from that, because springfield isn't the OEM of the gun, warranty work is hard to come by. If you need parts build tolerances are poor, so even if you can find replacement parts, they may not fit your gun.
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14166877:Biffbarf said:
Browning buckmark or ruger mark IV will be the most reliable semi auto .22's you can get and are awesome to shoot, new shooter or not.

A lot of time people try to sell women the smallest, lightest handgun but the more compact they are the harder they are to shoot. Any of the 9mm handguns I listed above will be great for a new shooter as well. See if you can find those guns I listed at a shop, hold them, align the sights and dry fire them (in a safe direction and after asking, of course) and find what is most intuitive for her (and you).
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Thanks for the advice man, I’ll let you know how we make out!
 
I second not feeling like you need to get her a .22 or hell even a .38

Biffs right about most well designed and ergonomically friendly 9mm’s not being too scary for first timers or females.

I will say the smaller you go, and the more polymer involved, you’re probably going to get decent recoil. I think biff mentioned the glock 43 and I hate shooting that thing. I’d go a little more “full size” and not compact cause the kick is what scares people.

For reference, my fiancé is pretty petite and she can handle the 9mm I keep in our bedroom just fine.

14166890:Charlie_Kelly said:
Thanks for the advice man, I’ll let you know how we make out!
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14166791:Charlie_Kelly said:
My gf and I plan to go gun shopping by election time. I’ll always been around guns and have done target shooting but it’s time to buy. Any recommendations? Looking to start small and move to rifles and shotguns once I have a gun safe and more room.

**This post was edited on Aug 21st 2020 at 7:17:39pm
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Just want to add any full size glock, biff mentioned smaller ones but I prefer the full size grip of a glock 17, 34, 45, 19x, etc. I dont have big hands but the full size grip is perfect for me shooting both or one handed, much prefer it over the compact 19. I only really shoot 9mm but whatever caliber you go with there are usually size and capacity options

Except 22, fuck a glock in .22
 
14166898:DesertStix said:
I second not feeling like you need to get her a .22 or hell even a .38

Biffs right about most well designed and ergonomically friendly 9mm’s not being too scary for first timers or females.

I will say the smaller you go, and the more polymer involved, you’re probably going to get decent recoil. I think biff mentioned the glock 43 and I hate shooting that thing. I’d go a little more “full size” and not compact cause the kick is what scares people.

For reference, my fiancé is pretty petite and she can handle the 9mm I keep in our bedroom just fine.
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14166944:TheHamburglar said:
Just want to add any full size glock, biff mentioned smaller ones but I prefer the full size grip of a glock 17, 34, 45, 19x, etc. I dont have big hands but the full size grip is perfect for me shooting both or one handed, much prefer it over the compact 19. I only really shoot 9mm but whatever caliber you go with there are usually size and capacity options

Except 22, fuck a glock in .22
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Cool, I’m really just trying to build her confidence so it sounds like we need to do some research and go to a couple gun shops to figure out what will work best for her. Just stoked that she is down to get a gun and learn how to shoot.
 
14165585:DolanReloaded said:
My rifle is in 6.5 creedmoor. Ive seen vids of tikka t3x ctr rifles in 6.5 cm getting 5 hits in a row on a torso size target at 1 mile. Most vids show 1000-1100 yard shots which is pretty solid too.
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What's the word on 6.5 CM as a versatile hunting round? Are people happy with it as a single rifle go to?
 
14165668:DolanReloaded said:
Damn. Is handloading cheaper too?
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Absolutely, can be hit or miss though

When I first got into it, I was saving a bunch of money reloading 9mm but then there was an abundant supply and it just wasn’t worth the time since 9mm became really cheap

I was reloading .308 for a while at about 30 cents per round when buying a box of similar ammo would have been around $1.15 per round

I haven’t bought any supplies lately though and from what I’m hearing, brass/bullets/primers/powder are becoming scarce most likely driving that cost up
 
Never cheap out on ur ammo.

a guns only as good as the ammo in it

14167419:soulskier said:
Absolutely, can be hit or miss though

When I first got into it, I was saving a bunch of money reloading 9mm but then there was an abundant supply and it just wasn’t worth the time since 9mm became really cheap

I was reloading .308 for a while at about 30 cents per round when buying a box of similar ammo would have been around $1.15 per round

I haven’t bought any supplies lately though and from what I’m hearing, brass/bullets/primers/powder are becoming scarce most likely driving that cost up
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14165404:Dylan_ said:
If you guys just started stocking ammo this year you're years late.
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I always say, guns are cheap in good times and gone in bad times.

I mean, a few years ago they were practically giving away AR-15s.
 
between covid and an election coming up, I chose a pretty poor time to get into firearms. went in yesterday and built (had the shop build) an ar15. part selection was very limited as you can imagine. I should be picking it up today. i’ll have to read off the receipt when I get home to post what went into it because it might as well be a foreign language to me and i sure as shit don’t remember specifics.
 
14170298:danbrown said:
between covid and an election coming up, I chose a pretty poor time to get into firearms. went in yesterday and built (had the shop build) an ar15. part selection was very limited as you can imagine. I should be picking it up today. i’ll have to read off the receipt when I get home to post what went into it because it might as well be a foreign language to me and i sure as shit don’t remember specifics.
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Congrats on the build!

Good luck finding ammo, shit is crazy pricey but this might help:
https://ammoseek.com/ammo/223-remington

Sooo much birdshot on the shelves now though, all I shoot is trap these days. Fun as fuck when you're sto*ed
 
14170300:TheHamburglar said:
Congrats on the build!

Good luck finding ammo, shit is crazy pricey but this might help:
https://ammoseek.com/ammo/223-remington

Sooo much birdshot on the shelves now though, all I shoot is trap these days. Fun as fuck when you're sto*ed
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Thank you! I was told that was the case, like I said not the greatest time to get into the hobby but I'll manage.

Found the itemized receipt, you may be able to make out more of this than I can:

Aero Precision Lower

Aero Precision BUFF

Aero Precision LPK

Aero Precision BCG

MAGPUL STOCK Tan

LBE Birdcage

Aero Precision - cut off whatever it was

Bastion Charging

Aero Precision - cut off

Timber Creek Barrel 16"

Bootleg QM Hanguar

Sight Mark Ultra Shot Plus
 
14167256:Dustin. said:
What's the word on 6.5 CM as a versatile hunting round? Are people happy with it as a single rifle go to?
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Its accurate as fuck at long range. Only round im aware of thats more accurate at lr is 338 lapua, but those cost like 4x as much per round than 6.5 creedmoor. Creedmoor is pretty damn cheap, without even considering how good its accuracy is.

as fare as stopping power i think it would take down anything up to the size of an elk. I wouldnt rely on it to kill a grizzly or a moose though.

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14170534:DolanReloaded said:
Its accurate as fuck at long range. Only round im aware of thats more accurate at lr is 338 lapua, but those cost like 4x as much per round than 6.5 creedmoor. Creedmoor is pretty damn cheap, without even considering how good its accuracy is.

as fare as stopping power i think it would take down anything up to the size of an elk. I wouldnt rely on it to kill a grizzly or a moose though.

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Thanks for the advice! I have friends who swear by .270, but it seems like there isn't a good reason to bypass 6.5 CM in 2020. I would be hunting up to Elk as you described.
 
14170502:T.L. said:
She purrrrty. I love everything Aero. An M5 SBR build in .308 is in my future.
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Thanks! Took it out for the first time yesterday, it was awesome. What wasn't quite as awesome was paying $15.50 per box of 20, but it was still sick!
 
14171080:majorbigmanhere said:
I know this thread might not be intended as grounds for politics but I love to express my opinions and piss off gun toting snowflakes. I think its chill to have a gun that you only take to go to the range or to hunt with but I feel like its a paranoid move to feel the need to carry or keep a gun for self protection. like if thats you ur a sketch ball
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Sketch ball here. The same way you get off on vocalizing your fear of inanimate objects carried by law abiding citizens, I'd like to respond by saying that I have many black and scary firearms, and thousands, and thousands, and thousands, and thousands, and thousands of rounds of ammunition. Does that rustle your jimmies?

Have a good one, bud!
 
14171080:majorbigmanhere said:
I know this thread might not be intended as grounds for politics but I love to express my opinions and piss off gun toting snowflakes. I think its chill to have a gun that you only take to go to the range or to hunt with but I feel like its a paranoid move to feel the need to carry or keep a gun for self protection. like if thats you ur a sketch ball
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Fuck off weirdo.

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I encourage any of you that are curious about long range shooting to give it a try; it is an absolute blast

This is a video of me shooting out to 1,000 yards

Quality is potato but I love the audio waiting for the sound of the ping to make its way back

[video]https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/972046/trim-F8B1A0E7-D629-4E63-9666-A17C92FC21D5-MOV[/video]
 
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