I feel this is not a fair comparision, those are two totally unrelated issues.  If you want to ski out of bounds, do it at another resort, if you wanna ski a decent park, have a fun time and not break the bank, then buy a y2play.  You seem to have a pre-determind notion of what the ski industry is, and that is like saying there is a definition of what the ski industry is, and the fact is, it's different to everyone so you cannot have a "definition".  The general opinion I have been getting is that Grouse seems to be contributing negativly to the ski industry and "harming" it.  I have yet to see a legit reason how Grouse Mountain is harming the "ski industry".  I disagree with how the banning was handled and I feel bad for Haywood and company, but the fact is Grouse is Grouse and they have their own set of rules, like Whistler has theirs and Seymour theirs. Like I said above, the ski industry is different, you cannot put certain things in the same category.  Its what you make it out to be.  If you are a person looking to ski a fun park, and stay in bounds and save cash, ski grouse, it is probably the best bang for your buck.  If you are interested in back country stuff and skiing out of bounds, you know how Grouse feels about that and its their mountain and their call, so thats too bad because you will have to pick a different mountain. That being said, for someone who wants to shred out of bounds legitimatly, then you probably might not like Grouse very much, but for people who ski inbounds, the mountain is great.  So now you have 2 types of people who belong to the same community and yet their views are so different.  So i now ask, how can you put these 2 people into the same category? I would recommend determining what kind of skiier you are and then look at the pass buying options and decide.  Grouse can try their best to cater to everyone, but realistically someone will always be mad, in this case the people who wanna ride backcountry suffer.