uh no.......... im pretty sure dead to fall, a perfect murder, all out war, between the buried and me, bury your dead, comback kid, darkest hour, four letter lie ( some what emo but good), on the last day, preminitions of war, ringworm, scars of tomamrow, sinai beach, the warrior, and with honor are not even close to shitty. just becasue hawthorne heights is on that label does not mean its a shitty ass emo label. those bands i mentioned are fuckin awesome metal/hardcore bands.
and i think nirvana is gay