Funny thing my Christian friend told me

#1: ^ ^ ^ Your opinion is invalid for being a skiboarder. #2: anewmorning and canadianskibum, you are the two people who made sense. csb, what anm said is very true, and is something I had to deal with. The problem for a large part of the christian community is admitting to themselves that ther is another way of looking at the scriptures, and they could be wrong in terms of what they believe.

Now I am going to tackle the issue of predestination vs. frewill... im if you have any ideas or have no idea what this means in a spiritual sense.

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Haggar, your opinion is invalidated for being a moron. It doesn't matter what he rides, and considering some of the utter bullshit that's emerged from that thing you like to call a mind, you're in no position to tell people whether or not they should be listened to. If you want to bring up predestination or free will, go ahead. Make an argument.

Aside from that, I'm glad the brilliantly worded posts by the religous-minded people have skirted the topic of intelligent design in this thread. No need to get into that again.As for evolution, I have only this to say:

Inference to the best explanation.

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just about creation and whatnot, anewday mentioned it, scientific troery as to the creation of the universe is divided into seven periods... so... whatever.

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to the dude who tried to critizise me for reading the bible - your stupid. the bible is a book. you read books front to back. i am reading the book front to back. why the fuck would i read the new testament before the old? that would be like reading return of the king before two towers or anything like that.

you're stupid.

and canadian ski bum - so you're saying that instead of dinosaurs being around for millions and millions of yours they were around for only a few years 3000 years ago? I'm pretty sure we would know if a species that large was around 3000 years... the fact that they were all over the world and it just... i just don't think it would work man.

that and scientific proof for everything in the bible? i call bullshit. they have 'scientific proof' of human life and human activity in ethiopia/sudan area that is around 100 000 years old... and proof that follows their exsistance as they develope skills and tools as the centuries go on and as they move around... than how did they all start from a garden by the persian gulf 10 000 years ago?

Darryl Hunt

Jesus doesn't live here.
 
I was kidding about the skiboarding thing and its HAGGARD and I really just think that it is great how retarded some people are on this site.

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^^mike, not to criticize you, but I thought you weren't supposed to read the Bible front to back. I was under the impression that it wasn't a linear book and you were supposed to skip around if you wanted an accurate timeline. I might be wrong, but that's just what I thought.

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we don't know and who gives a fuck. Personaly, my god is the god who made the man who invented skiing and snow. I don't think there is a heaven or hell, who knows though. But I do know that when someone close passes they are your guardian angel. I have been in some near death incidients and it felt as if someone else was controlling. I like to think and believe that it was my two friends who passed in a car crash. Religion is no one's business but yours and that is the way it should be. If you force your believes on others and try to 'educate' others I say fuck you.

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canadian:

the change in the consistency of the speed of light is a good argument except for in this theory the change is so little that you or i would not be able to even notice

 
Canadianskibum, I thankyou for trying, and not to be a dick, I honestly was looking for something more than that. Some people have faith, and that is not a bad thing, but I need more than faith. I believe that virtually all things can be explained if enough is known about them. The trouble is finding out everything that you need to know.

As far as evolution goes, Im not neccassarily sure if you fully understand what evolution means, or if you just have a different way of interpreting it. Evolution take centuries upon centuries. Your right, no man and no woman just up and found each other and started going at it. The species as a whole, evolved from, perhaps more primitive species. In a related note. Wisdom teeth: We have not always had to pull them. Our jaws are infact getting smaller, and many attribute this to enhanced speech capabilities. If you look at what Archeologist have put together in a timeline of skeletons, this can be seen too. You may not believe this, but it is tangible evidence; it can be seen, and is somewhat ignorant (

signatures are for pussies

 
i dont know about religion, i dont know if i believe it or what but it makes me mad when the president comes on tv and responds to the question did you go to your father for advice about iraq and he says, my father was not the right person to ask, i asked god.

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he's just playing to his supporters

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Well this is what I really wrote but some got cut off some how.

Canadianskibum, I thankyou for trying, and not to be a dick, I honestly was looking for something more than that. Some people have faith, and that is not a bad thing, but I need more than faith. I believe that virtually all things can be explained if enough is known about them. The trouble is finding out everything that you need to know.

As far as evolution goes, Im not neccassarily sure if you fully understand what evolution means, or if you just have a different way of interpreting it. Evolution take centuries upon centuries. Your right, no man and no woman just up and found each other and started going at it. The species as a whole, evolved from, perhaps more primitive species. In a related note. Wisdom teeth: We have not always had to pull them. Our jaws are infact getting smaller, and many attribute this to enhanced speech capabilities. If you look at what Archeologist have put together in a timeline of skeletons, this can be seen too. You may not believe this, but it is tangible evidence; it can be seen, and is somewhat ignorant (

signatures are for pussies

 
um yeah... its me again... bill lumburgh... and the bible isnt exactly a linear book mike-o. sorry. that goes for both the old and the new testiment. if you are familiar with latin based languages (which as a canadian, i am assuming you are) then you would know that the very word bible is the root of, say the word biblio... or bibliotecha, or whatever it may be called in french... meaning library. you might be inclined to think that the book of revelations is the last book in the bible because it was written last... well, there you would be mistaken. as any semi educated person is likly aware, the bible was compiled around 300 years anno dommini, by the council of nice. there things like the actual translation of the passages, as well as the order in which the writings would be compiled was voted on. heres where you thought is flawed mike. as soon as you fininsh reading second chronicles you will get into the book of ezra. does the book of ezra continue on with the same line of thought as in chronicles? nope. it doesnt. in fact, there is no story line to follow. if you really want to get the essence of jewish, or christian thought, then you dont study the bible chronologicaly. if you want to get mired down in the geneology of mahaleel, or perhaps the finite details of reign of rehoboam over the land of judea, then by all means, continue. all i am suggesting, is that you will get a far greater understanding of christian thought by reading the direct teachings of jesus in the new testiment. after you have read and have a basic grasp of what you read there, the old testiment will take on a greater meaning as well. the signifigance of having 12 apostles will be clairified by your reading about the 12 tribes of isreal... jesus' instructions to his deciples to preach to the gentiles will make more sense when you know about the scattering of the aforementioned tribes. it comes down to this, mike. the old testiment is nearly impossible to truly understand without knowing why it was written, which was to prepare the jews for the impending arrival of their messiah. when you already know the teachings of said messaih, the old testiment will fall into place in a better fashion. if you are just reading for pleasure, i guess it doesnt matter, but i assure you, there are far more entertaining reads out there. if you are reading to understand christian thought, then read the new testiment first. hopefully you see that i am not so stupid after all?

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^^ youre ego is out of control

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So whoever does all the deleting around here, feel free to delete all my stuff, cause for some reason it wont let me post past a certain point anyway, so it makes no sense.

signatures are for pussies

 
Canadianskibum, I thankyou for trying, and not to be a dick, I honestly was looking for something more than that. Some people have faith, and that is not a bad thing, but I need more than faith. I believe that virtually all things can be explained if enough is known about them. The trouble is finding out everything that you need to know.

As far as evolution goes, Im not neccassarily sure if you fully understand what evolution means, or if you just have a different way of interpreting it. Evolution take centuries upon centuries. Your right, no man and no woman just up and found each other and started going at it. The species as a whole, evolved from, perhaps more primitive species. In a related note. Wisdom teeth: We have not always had to pull them. Our jaws are infact getting smaller, and many attribute this to enhanced speech capabilities. If you look at what Archeologist have put together in a timeline of skeletons, this can be seen too. You may not believe this, but it is tangible evidence; it can be seen, and is somewhat ignorant (I dont like that word) if ignored.

As far as the atom thing goes, you got me and really know probably knows that for sure. I cant fully remember the inner workings of the Big Bang Theory, but I think you are right. It is somewhat hard to imagine that from a single atom, within seconds after the explosion, the universe was already the size of our own galaxy. I think this is one of those things that I said in my first paragraph. Yet, if you look at the workings of an atomic bomb, you might find that there may be validity in the Big Bang theory. The Russians actually exploded one that (as far as Discoverys Ultimate ten said) had three times the explosive power of every other explosion put together in WW2 (admittedly, this is somewhat vague.) But that all started from one atom, so who knows.

I for one would like to believe that there is a higher power for it definetly helps in your saddest times as in death and such. Also, supposedly, all the answers will come in heaven, so Ive heard, and that would be interesting. I was once fairly religious, not hardcore, but I unquestioningly believed. I dont know why, but I did start to question it in my early teens, and now as a person of science, I have trouble believing in something purely because Im told it exists, but never actually see it.

I think religion is good if you need it and it helps you, but if you are a good person without it, than thats fine too. Too me it just seems that some of the religious people I know, push it onto others, and are somewhat unaccepting when someone else does not believe. Here is where religious people, some not all, can be hypocritical, as is it not Gods will to love thy fellow neighbour?

Anyway, this is really long, and I did not mean to offend any believers, but only to show another side without getting all crazy mad.

signatures are for pussies

 
yours, hence the two ^s

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but youre an asshole so while you may be right, not many people will care

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Looting, it's the new way to buy stuff! - Jib_This
 
It worked! Please delete all the stuff from that stupid guy with the elmo icon above the one that actually worked.

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eh, yeah... well, people that get offended that easily dont need to read it i guess.

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i just dont like assholes... you with all your biblical knowledge ought to have taken somehting from it... like a lesson in humility and whatnot.

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Looting, it's the new way to buy stuff! - Jib_This
 
point taken- i was merely trying to shake the 'stupid' rap that mike tried to put on me.

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i am aware that the bible jumps around... but the fact of the matter is, i don't really care what is going on in a cristians mind (as i said before, i'm not religious). i'm just reading it to see who did what...

than when i'm done with the holy bible i will move onto another major religion (muslim most likely) and see what they have to say. and so on.

one thing i never have understood is the whole one god thing. every religion, culture, or just group of people around the world worship gods. between all the different native american tribes, norwegen gods, and the rest of the world... if there is only one god, or one group of gods than why is everyone so different?

should everyone be worshiping the same god, since there would only be one?

Darryl Hunt

Jesus doesn't live here.
 
well, in the eyes of every religion, yes, everyone should bel;ieve in one god. everyone should believe in the same thing, because that is what they believe is right. thats pretty much how it works.

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after reading paradise lost, i think 1/2 the bible was written in total sarcasm. I bet whoever wrote these parts is like 'i cant fucking believe people are actually believing this shit'.

Look at it this way, god's first plan was for people to be ignorant, Satan screwed that one up, by giving them intelligence and choice; 2 things that most humans feel strongly about. Satan also said that the mind can make a heaven out of hell, and a hell from heaven, which is a philosophy of my life, and i think is totally true.

Also, how come god, a perfect being, can be so unjust? Destroying the entire town of sodom and gommorah, for acts that only a few have committed against him? As well as, can a perfect being create a non-perfect being?

I bet the person who said god did not want premarital sex was either fat and ugly, or to was sarcastic. 'why the fuck wouldnt anybody want to do this? Oh yeah, they cant because nobody wants to fuck him, why not give him a reason'

The bible says men were created from dirt, what more can i say. And a women was created from a rib bone. The law of conservation of mass and energy strongly opposes this idea. As well as any biologist on the planet.

OK, here is the ultimate in gullibility. A talking donkey, sampson defeating an army of 100 with a jawbone of an ass who gets power from his hair, killing countless family members as homage to gods, and my favourite. The bible translates that marriage must be consummated before it exists, therefore you gotta screw ure wife's/husbands brains out before ure really married. So wait a second, jesus was born from a virgin, therefore she wasnt technically married, which means there was no father, and that makes jesus a bastard child.

My point here is, worship whatever you want, just realize that faith comes from the heart and mind, and not in some frivolous scripture that could have been totally changed, biased, or what not millions of times in history.

by the way, i have yet to be stricken down by the power of the almighty.

Mind can make a heaven from hell, and a hell from heaven
 
i just love how the kid said 'its been proven that theres no scientific proof'. wow...theyve prooved the non-existence of the proof

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about 500 years ago we thought the world was flat....

so who the fuck knows? noone

does knowledge even exist?

 
knowledge exists.At least as long as I and other intelectual fellas stick around earth for a while.

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as for the whole 'it's impossible to get a chick out of a dudes rib beacuse of mass and stuff'.

dude if god's real he can do anything he wants man. mass ain't nothing for him. he invented physics to make it imposible for humans to figure him out.

this is the question that has been bugging me for a while, and it may be stupid, but i don't understand it. We know that there is an end to the universe, and that the universe is still expanding... but what if we get a telescope that can see past the edge of the universe (which is said to be impossible currently because apparently the rate that the universe is expanding is faster than the speed of light) what would we be looking at?

Darryl Hunt

Jesus doesn't live here.
 
We'd be looking at some really hot chicks boobs,or maybe the universe is held in the hand of a giant,and maybe the giant is god.Or maybe he is just some random dude.

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I was being sarcastic hunt. But if god could do anything, why the rib? Isnt it less efficient than out of dirt, because there is so much more dirt in this world than men?

as for that universe thing, nobody really has a clue, because we have no evidence of the expanding universe. Red shift is just one possibility of seeing red light.

Mind can make a heaven from hell, and a hell from heaven
 
One of the latest hypothesis is that there are in fact many universes, but it would seem that there still needs to be an end somewhere.

Maybe its like pacman, once you get to one end you just end up on the other side.

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the bible says that satan wouldnt give us choice so we would be here making 'right' choices with no free agency. Jesus' plan was choice.

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Reading this topic from the start, i've decided that Mike Hunt is the most intelligent person in here. A shock maybe, but true seemingly. He's the only one (or maybe the most prominent of the few) actually asking questions, rather than spouting out the answers of others. Someone searching for answers, rather than pretending to know them.

Why believe people we've never met, or heard - why believe Jesus or Mohammed over anyone else? Why believe them over yourself?? They were human too.. just like you.. and even if they were hearing the 'Word of God', they still only had a human frame of reference within which to interpret it. All we have is questions, and in the end they're questions we can only ask ourselves. Anyone pretending to know the answers is doing little more than insulting God - who may or may not exist. You decide.

 
most intelligent, if misinformed... it still escapes me why you would read the bible if not to understand christian (or jewish) thought... because that is what the book(s) is (are). it is my opinion that the old testiment makes horrible pleasure reading. thats all i am suggesting. and muslim is a people... islam is a religion.

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^Haha stop nitpicking, or I'll be forced to point out that you've misspelled testament throughout this entire thread.

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but wanting to know why on earth you would read the bible, if not to undertand christian thought is a legitimate question... not nitpicky... is it? testament testament testament. i think ive got it down now.

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i feel that if you read the bible with the intention of trying to interpet what it all means, in the distant past till the present it would be silly... ok - religion is kind of like lawyers.

you take a math question. there is only one answer. there is a formula and there is only one possible answer. anything other than the correct answer is wrong. no if's and or buts about it. one right, everything else is wrong.

well, if you were to show something to a lawyer, he'd give you his opinion on how it should be dealt with.

One lawyer writes up a contract for a person. that person shows the contract to 10 other lawyers and they will each have 10 different opinions about the contract, 10 different things wrong with it, 10 different suggestions as to what to change and what to get rid of and what to add, and so on and so forth.

everyone always says that you can't read read the bible, you gotta go at it differently and you gotta read between the lines... well than would each person not get their own prespective as to what it all means? so really, the bible means something different to every different person... and after 5000 years it's been translated more than the town slut has been fucked.

what do the egyptions have to say about moses? do they even mention him in their history? you'd think it'd be a big deal that this man of god came and destoryed everything in their land, killed all their 1st born, than split the damn Red Sea and drowned egypts finest soldiers... i haven't been able to find anything documented about it... but if you know where it is written than i'd like to see.

War of the Worlds - people thought there were actually martians on earth killing people...

ya know what? fuck it, i'm over this shit.

if there is a god than we're all fucked anyways (i only have two friends in the world who actually do what's right acording to the bible, the rest of us are damn sinners).

Darryl Hunt

Jesus doesn't live here.
 
Well how about this?? Have you ever thought that maybe life isnt all that everyone thinks it is? Maybe it is all purely chemical and there is nothing special about it. maybe the random amino acids and what not that combined in the primordial soup a billion yrs ago was just that, a chemical reaction. Recent studies in epistimology and philosophy of the mind are trying to pinpoint what exactly concious thought is and so far they are getting closer and closer. They are trying to link it iwht chemical reactions and when they do it will almost negate the wonderous aura life has around it. Just a thought. I personally laugh at christians who believe in creationism. Just like religous traditions over the past thousand or so years it has/will be disproven by science. The only people that sitll believe it are fanatics, just like when people thought the sun was god, then the earth was flat, or that god controlled the day/night cycle. All religious beliefs are slowly being destroyed, unfortunetely. But I have nothing against religion, i was raised a christian. I am just trying to look at it from an unbiased point of view, in light of what is happening recently.

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