-benedetto
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13262877:Rosbif said:
Nope, America is behind the power curve. Police state>safety
Festival talk
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Nope, America is behind the power curve. Police state>safety
13262873:Zimmerman said:
Yeah, not really into it anymore. I still like one of the songs off that album. Can't think of the name, it's been a good 5-6 years since I listened to them much. The radio wouldn't play them and thenn all the radio did was play them. I think the over playing of songs killed it more for me than anything else. Could be a shift in musical preference idk. And that's actually what I've herd. Good for them because they were really really painfull bad. I mean this wasn't that long after I was listening to them regularly, I was pretty spun, and I still thought it was horrible.
13262877:Rosbif said:
Dance safe and bunk police do shows. Bunk police used to test but now they just sell kits. That said if you know how to read it (which isn't hard) you can figure everything out pretty well.
Unfortunately kids don't think their life is worth $20 bucks. And thanks to the taboo culture abstinence is pushed rather than safety. I've heard of idiot mother fuckers confiscating test kits from people. So dumb.
Also with our laws it's a grey area for allowing somebody to set up and sell them. There's definitely a push to just ignore it. IF you have a test booth set up you're saying that there are droogz there which that's illegal.
It's dumb. If every campsite had a kit the bad stuff and the assholes peddling it would disappear so fast.
One day
*TURBONERD*
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13262813:theabortionator said:
You know, Rusty, you could just appreciate the electronic music scene instead of bashing the entirety of it mindlessly. EDM sucks, yes. Hardwell? Fuck that. Real house and trance have a fantastic scene that isn't full of 12 year olds waiting for the drop. Yes, kandi is a part of it, but for around $5 to $10 worth of new stuff for a festival or concert you can meet a lot of like-minded people (among more 12-year-olds, of course).
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13262921:theabortionator said:
Well, that really sucks, is people are going to get high, which they obviously are, they may as well do it safely.
At least In the UK the trend for shitty pills seems to be going down, the average MDMA dose in pills is 5x what it was back in 2009 (now it's 100mg).
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13262818:theabortionator said:
The fact is that it is way easier for bands to play festivals than their own shows. They probably get paid more, they don't have to promote because the organizers do it for them, all of their friends are also playing, and literally all they have to do is show up and they know they will have a decently sized audience to play for. Whereas single shows they have to set up the stage, do soundchecks, promote, find venues/pay a promoter, make sure they sell enough tickets to fill the van with gas etc etc.
99.9% of the best shows I see are single shows, not festivals. Not to mention there are way too many layman fans at festivals that know one song and go wild and then just stand around like a bunch of pricks for the rest of the show. Gotta say CTE and Band of Skulls weren't like that at sasq but I saw Band of Skulls a few days later in a single show and it was nuts.
And to the guy who said jam bands can play circles around my favorite bands....fair enough? I don't really give a shit if they can prog out for 15 minutes of some jazz scale, shits boring. I want 2 minute punk blasts of energy, not blazeit420 hippy dance for 4 hours. I understand if that's your scene but it doesn't hurt to see the other side too.
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13263232:will_powder said:
Don't you find it exciting to listen to music being made right in front of your eyes though? Whether you're a fan of extended jams or not, you have to admit that it adds a whole new level of interest when you're watching something that could potentially fail or work out extremely well in a way that's never been heard before.
Zimmerman
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And on top of that,if you think rock improv is boring I really just don't understand why. In a 20 minute jam you could get multiple different time sigs, multiple themes explored, all new and coming at you in the moment. Length has nothing to do with it if they can make interesting music all the way through.
Would you rather your punk bands play the same songs identically every time or change them up? Wouldn't it be cool to hear one of your punk bands cohesively jam out of one of their songs and explore a multitude of different punk themes? What if your 2 minute burst of punk energy could continue for longer, be deconstructed, etc?
If 4 chord rock is your thing I guess it's your thing though. When it comes to taste there is no dispute.
Would you rather your punk bands play the same songs identically every time or change them up? Wouldn't it be cool to hear one of your punk bands cohesively jam out of one of their songs and explore a multitude of different punk themes? What if your 2 minute burst of punk energy could continue for longer, be deconstructed, etc?
If 4 chord rock is your thing I guess it's your thing though. When it comes to taste there is no dispute.
13262933:*CUMMINGS* said:
Yeah I mean I was into electronic music. I used to mix some. I still am I guess but I avoid it at all costs ever since the edm wave started 4 or 5 years ago.
13263232:will_powder said:
I mean most bands wish they could jam, many barely can get through playing their song in the EXACT SAME WAY as the album and the same way every night in the same order. That's pathetic. And not all jamming is mindless noodling, many jambands play plenty of straight forward short stuff that rages.
Phish has songs like Chalkdust, tweeprise and others that are 4 minutes and high energy. Hell even sample in a jar can rage, the clifford ball one was great imo. 4 minute songs.
In terms of seeing I've probably seen 100-150 non jamband shows at least if not 200+. I never came out and started this with a "everyone who doesn't jam sucks" you started the "fuck jambands" thing so I jumped on it.
Things like spontaneous sit ins. Good luck trying to do that with a band that can't jam. Or just hearing different versions of a song. I remember I did 4 shows with three days grace, breaking benjamin, seether, in 06/07. Each setlist from each band was identical night to night. I think one of them switched up a song one night but other than that it was the same.
Even an example of an artist I like. John Butler trio. Saw them twice the same summer and the setlist and even the banter was the same. Like they planned out there jokes and then repeated it all word for word. Still played well but come on.
If a show isn't a unique experience I guess that's alright but saying that it's better that way is kind of crazy in my book.
I wouldn't have seen 400 or so shows if they were all the same. I've seen everything from christian bands(30+ of them) to womp/electro like skrillex, pretty lights, girl talks awful mixing, to jambands, to legitimate old school bluegrass shows and festivals, to hardcore, to funk, to jam, and pretty much everything in between.
I just think it's funny that the whole "herp derp hippie jam bands" saying are so popular when half the people saying that shit like straight up radio rock like daughtry, three days grace, and whatever else.
Maybe your only experience with "jambands" was stuff like OAR and DMB in which case I forgive you.
13263548:Zimmerman said:
I actually like old dmb. And I can get down to some of it from any time depending on what it is. That scene is balls though. IT really really really doesn't help their case that their fanbase RUINED spac for other concerts. Fucking tragic.
I almost went in scranton 2012 but I got stuck in traffic going up the stupid fucking mountain and missed moe. and didn't feel like paying $55 or whatever just to go in for dave. I could see a little from the outside. I could hear my boy carter throwing it down on the kit so it was all good.
If I ever go back I'll funnel a liter or two of crystal palace vodka up my butthole so I can be drunk enough to survive the fans or just kill myself.
Kind of bummed about allmans. Actually really bummed. Understandable but that was always a great time imo. One of the best shows to come through spac every year or two. Now they'll probably use that money to book drake an extra night or whatever.
louie.mirags
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13262471:will_powder said:
this thread isn't for you. Find or start one that is
-benedetto
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great festival. Last year was our first time going but I know that festival is special. Great layout. Great vibes. great music. I wonder why this would be the last year for Camp Minglewood? That place is literally perfect. I'll be there 100% next September.
sort of crazy that I have Mysteyland 30 minutes away. THP was under an hour away and so is Catskill Chill. Fuck yeah. Oh yeah and mountain jam a little over an hour away.
I'm not sure but they aren't going to be able to hold it there. It's not because of size. They didn't really give me deetz. I'll ask dave at some point.
That said, great fest. Did the first 3. Crazy to see it evolve that quickly. Some great memories. Probably won't make it but for anyone who hasn't it's definitely worth it.
Also getting there early is clutch. Pretty quick and painless through security and you can get set up and have a decent spot.
Some good music cabins. One year somebody had a projector going and showed festival express and some other stuff.
There's a skatepark there but it's closed.
Good vibes though. Great music, and great people running the event.
Even the food is local vendors and reasonably priced. $3 big slices of pizza. $7 or $8 hoagies. Stuff like that. And the people that run it legitimately care about the people there.
Have fun, just please don't blast womp from your cabin at 3 am.
That said, great fest. Did the first 3. Crazy to see it evolve that quickly. Some great memories. Probably won't make it but for anyone who hasn't it's definitely worth it.
Also getting there early is clutch. Pretty quick and painless through security and you can get set up and have a decent spot.
Some good music cabins. One year somebody had a projector going and showed festival express and some other stuff.
There's a skatepark there but it's closed.
Good vibes though. Great music, and great people running the event.
Even the food is local vendors and reasonably priced. $3 big slices of pizza. $7 or $8 hoagies. Stuff like that. And the people that run it legitimately care about the people there.
Have fun, just please don't blast womp from your cabin at 3 am.
-benedetto
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Cabin over camping? Psshh. Great option though for people who hate camping though, not hatin. Me and Louie got there last year around 7pm Friday after work and set up in the quiet area and it turned out being a great spot. The normal camping is a far walk considering. We met friends also who were camping between cabins, it's a free for all, it's great. Parties going on all over. Vibes for days. You're right the vendors. Also a great place to stock up on edibles.
13267578:-benedetto said:
I've never rocked a cabin even when I could have for free in 2010. Almost did the last night of 2011. The whole field was mud, not sure if that was the shit creek year or not. My buddy forgot the roof of his tent and it became a pisser at the end of the weekend. I think some girl offered me a cabin to stay in but I rolled out with a friend that night.
I camped in the center where the fire usually is there,s a big pine and the flag pole at the top. VArious spots in there. Always liked it.
ALso it goes for everywhere but be careful rollin around in them thurr hills.
Curious where it's going to move. Wish I could rage the last one there. Also glad they made it a 3 day fest early on. 2 was too short.
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If you hear why, be sure to share if you can, man
gapersarefriends
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anyone thinking of coachella this year?
connecticunt
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13267680:gapersarefriends said:
Yes yes yes yes. My boss went last year and he told me it was the best festival he's been to in years. I am going to try my absolute hardest to get to coachella this year.
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13267695:connecticunt said:
lucky for me i live an hour and a half away. just need to buy ticket and camping
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13267695:connecticunt said:
no offense, but does the dude have a lot of festival experience? Also, has he been to festys around the tristate area? Coachella seems way too mainstream and for the kool kids
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13268161:louie.mirags said:
He goes to around four a summer around the area and beyond. Like he goes to roo, vibes, mountain jam, frendly gathering every year and he was going to go to Hudson too. He said that vibes didn't stack up to those at all but the lineup was great and the fact that he got to meet a ton of people that played. I was really surprised when he said that too but the lineup wasn't bad last year. There were better lineups from other festivals but I could see his point.
13268161:louie.mirags said:
I feel like coachella was better years ago. Didn't make it. When I was out there in 2010-2011 I almost went but had no money. It was always kind of mainstream but it definitely blew up and because the coolest thing 2011 or 12 and they started doing the 2 weekend thing. IF you're going to go to a festival and tell your friends, coachella and roo are probably the ones to hit.
13268175:connecticunt said:
Vibes didn't stack up to roo of coachella? What the hell was he looking for? The lineup was STACKED at vibes. I considered spending 2k to come back from NZ just for 4 days to rage that. Getting a week off from work, not making $$$ there, and spending 2k US was just too much for me though. IMO the best lineup of the last 5 years maybe more. It was headliners all the way down and a ton of other good music. Hell I said I probably wouldn't go back to vibes a few years ago, and I was still ready to spend all my money to go chill in bridgeport, get robbed outside the fest, and rage some tunes.
I mean, skrillez, pretty lights, and zeds dead weren't on the lineup but you had Biscuits playing dead, moe., Umph, Panic, Lotus talking heads, and a ton more stuff. Those first 4 are all headliners, lotus almost is these days as well. They put together an epic epic lineup.
Maybe all the bands didn't play that great idk, but on paper that was one of the best fests to happen.
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Went to Coachella last year, and I loved every bit of ut, from the camping, to the music. although it was my only festival I've ever really been to where you're camping, and there's a whole weekend of music and different stages.
Im going again this year.
I have my ticket, and a camping pass. so far though, none of my friends have tickets, and only two seem interested in coming down (one lives in LA already, other is my roommate).
So if there's a small group of 2-3 people wanting to come camp with me (us), let me know.
also on that note, does anyone know when/if the tickets are going on sale? I've bought mine presale the past two years, so ive never paid attention to when they go on sale again.
Im going again this year.
I have my ticket, and a camping pass. so far though, none of my friends have tickets, and only two seem interested in coming down (one lives in LA already, other is my roommate).
So if there's a small group of 2-3 people wanting to come camp with me (us), let me know.
also on that note, does anyone know when/if the tickets are going on sale? I've bought mine presale the past two years, so ive never paid attention to when they go on sale again.
13268601:rudager said:
If you end up flying solo it's all good. Say hello to errbody as you're looking for a place (if it isn't car camping)
Just kind of be like "Hey is it cool if I set my home up here" introduce yourself. Drink a beer or smoke a bowl with said people. Become best friends by end of weekend.
Even if you're with friends and get lost and you're spun or just don't want to be solo. You can just talk to some cool looking strangers and be like " Hey mind if I tag a long and wonder with you guys for a bit I________" Or if you're spun and things are too intense but you aren't a douche " Hey I'm really spun can I latch onto your vibes for a little while"
And then on the other end be friendly toward the random stranger. If somebody walks through your camp say hello maybe see if they want to kick it and drink a beer or hit a bowl with ya.
You probably got it down but just throwing it out there. Can really make your experience better. IF you feel good, and you make some strangers feel good(that sounds wrong) then everyoens gonna have a good time.
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13268601:rudager said:
if i camp i'm down to camp with a fellow nser!
13269135:gapersarefriends said:
Unless you know someone with a huge house and a pool down the road having a weekend rager why not camp? That's half the fun of a fest.
louie.mirags
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13269135:gapersarefriends said:
I agree with the abotionator... Camp! Do it! Meeting new people at festivals is amazing. 3 out of the 4 festivals last year my campsite had people hanging out all weekend we never met before. It is mainly because we have all of the supplies - ez up, extra chairs (which was a tip from the abotionator before last festival season), extra snacks, extra room in the cooler etc. We made some great friends and even some we're going to meet up with next summer to do it all over again. Great times
13269299:louie.mirags said:
Good to hear.
An easy up and extra chairs is like ___________________(Too lazy to finish that though)
Shit works though. IF there's a fest that allows fires or you're a boss( most fests don't allow fires) that's a good way to get some peoples and some jamming over to your cam area.
Random tips for that person who I didn't quote. Never a bad idea to toss your cooler back in your tent when you're leaving for a long time, or set it under your table if you have one. Sometimes a good idea to rock tapestries for shade, privacy, and helping to shelter your coolers from getting pirated.
If you run out of booze and there's no where close, wander around and ask for $1 beers on your journey. Meet some people whether they have beer or not, get some for free maybe or cheap. IF they have a ton buy a few to make sure you're set for the night.
Always good to buy more than you need. Nothings worse than running out when you wanna get fucked up. Sometimes beers can get jacked, you can share with friends, maybe you traded or sold some. Always good to have enough for you and a few other people just in case. In terms of the fest that's pretty cheap.
Talk to your neighbors for security if not for friendliness. Get to know them. IF you know them, and they know you, you can watch over each others shit. I've had my camp and tent robber before, it sucks. Had friends that had everything including their tent taken.
Not super common but there are generally a few thefts at the very least at all big fests.
IF the fest is car camping investing in tarps is always good. You can run a 4 way site with the neighbors and tarp a roof off over your easy ups run from the cars. You'll have shade and some privacy.
At the end of the festival, be on the lookout for things like tarps, easy ups, chairs, coolers. You might not have room, but if you do, there's good stuff left behind sometimes. Peoples motivation to pack well isn't as good as the trip there, and things that aren't shitty get left.
With tarps you might want to give a rinse if they're fucked then let them dry and bring em.
With easy ups,I recommend spending 100 on one. The coleman one I just got for 100-150 ish is real solid. The $50 ones can work, but they're really really really fragile.
If you're just going once it's all good, but if you're going to more than one spend the money. I've owned two easy ups, and I've set them up at ridiculous amounts of shows and fests. If they had been the cheapos they wouldn't have survived. You don't have to buy the vending ones but spend more than 50. Also if it's really windy, drop your easy up down low. This can also be down for shade, privacy, or keeping people out of your site while you're gone.
IF it get's super windy the cheap ones will bend right in half. There are piles of fucked easy ups after every fest.
IF it's really really really fucked it's good to open the ends of your tarp so the air can get through, maybe take the tarp off completely. BE gentle to your easy up. IF you're good to it, she'll last a long time.
BE on the lookout for good trades and anything weird you might need. Bought a chicken suit at interlocken in virginia last year. Some dude had the feet of it on and I was like NICE FEET BRO! They said they had a whole suit. I told them I'd buy it. They're like SWEET! We have no money to get home and need gas money. Gave them $40 which probably got spend on not gas but I got the chicken suit at least.
Idk why I decided that was helpful but I think it was.
Pretty much go with the flow. As phish wilson says "The trick was to surrender to the phlow".
Make plans, figure out who you want to see but, be open to some randomness. Maybe you planned to go hear, but you met some cool people going there. Just be open to whatever. It allows you to meet more people, have some freedom, and keeps things good. Obviously some bands you won't want to miss and should try to make it, just saying that if you try to do too much sometimes it get's over whelming. Make sure to leave some unstructured time to kick it with the weirdos in the campground, drink some beers, play some tunes, and just relax.
This has been another terrible PSA by your friendly neighborhood abortionator.
connecticunt
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I think I pre-d my pants a little. Sammi come with me
foodisfun
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13266183:-benedetto said:
great festival. Last year was our first time going but I know that festival is special. Great layout. Great vibes. great music. I wonder why this would be the last year for Camp Minglewood? That place is literally perfect. I'll be there 100% next September.
sort of crazy that I have Mysteyland 30 minutes away. THP was under an hour away and so is Catskill Chill. Fuck yeah. Oh yeah and mountain jam a little over an hour away.
Definitely trying to get there next year. I only heard good things about Camp Minglewood so I want to experience it there.
Anyone have music-related NYE plans? I don't have anything decided yet for NYE, but I might be at Kaskade on the 30th
louie.mirags
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13276743:foodisfun said:
Dudeeeeeeeeeee you gotta make it to chill! Benedetto and I will be there no matter what!
We're headed up to Ithaca to see Jimkata for nye
13276743:foodisfun said:
fish in florida
13276752:louie.mirags said:
Cool to see some peoples hitting jimkata
connecticunt
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13276752:louie.mirags said:
So jealous! I wanted to go see jimkata so bad. I couldn't justify dropping a decent amount of money to have someone drive me to Ithaca and then drop a ton to get to nyc for tipper two days later.
13276847:connecticunt said:
Jesus. Everyones getting down with jimkata. Somebody post in this thread. It's so fucking lonely. Eating in the corner by itself.
https://www.newschoolers.com/forum/thread/704698/Jimkata
foodisfun
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13276815:theabortionator said:
Kinda upset cause this is the first year I would have 100% seen phish if they were still doing their run at the garden. I'm late to the party and never really listened to them much, until last year's NYE when my buddy and I watched the livestream. Realized quickly that I had been missing out.
Have fun in Miami though I'd love to be there.
Disco Biscuits have their 3 nights at best buy and not too expensive, but I'm leaning towards Kaskade and maybe something NYE/NYD
13277190:foodisfun said:
Omg do the biscuits. Do it. Haveng seen them since nye 12. They dont play as a a well as they used to but so much fun. Rager mode
wizard_of_aahhhs
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Anyone going to snowglobe in south lake??? NS unite in the land of TAHOE and get ready to party to Thomas Jack
13277996:Zimmerman said:
I guess my friends were partying with twiddle. Tried to get me to come up but just don't feel like it especially right before fish. Funnny that I was just in vt yesterday. HAd I gotten texts a couple hours earlier woulda just done it.
But leaving for miami tomorrow so don't want to be in burly.
Have fun.
Zimmerman
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Really awesome show. I was actually more impressed with the opener Soule Monde than I was with Twiddle, though both killed it. Mihali is on another level with that axe lately.
Soule Monde is a drummer/keys duo and the keyboardist rips. Mostly organ and some super funky clavinetty licks.
Soule Monde is a drummer/keys duo and the keyboardist rips. Mostly organ and some super funky clavinetty licks.
sugarloaf
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Twiddle and Dopapod tomorrow indeed! And Soule Monde! Looking forward to a frendly night. Was a little bummed I can't make it to Miami for Phish (still have tickets if anyone is looking) but this should do.
Twiddle just killed it at Higher Ground over the weekend and I'm stoked on Soule Monde. Thought Sunday night was particularly rad.
Twiddle just killed it at Higher Ground over the weekend and I'm stoked on Soule Monde. Thought Sunday night was particularly rad.
Dude I still haven't decided if i'm going tonight, half of me wants to go and the other half says stay home and go skiing tomorrow at Mount Snow because I have the day off. Idk I'm probably going to Snow saturday anyway so its like why should i miss out on New Years?! I feel like I'm making up my mind while lit typing this haha but convince me !
-benedetto
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Jimkata was awesome last night in Ithaca. More concerts should come with discount hotels. It's like a tiny mini festival
foodisfun
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13282020:-benedetto said:
that is pretty sick. I would also be more likely to travel for a show if I could stay somewhere for a good deal.
my new years rocked. Mano le tough, Âme, and Apollonia played in a tv/film studio that was transformed into a club for a night. amazing sound and great production. highlight for me had to be the second room which had a killer view of Manhattan. watched the moon set behind the skyline, and was dancing until well after sunrise.
in other dance music news, I saw that Loco Dice played for 24 hours at Space Miami. pretty awesome that they started letting people in for free at some point too.
-benedetto
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Dancing past sunrise? I knew that was possible around nyc. I want to be at a club/party that is like that at least once (festival doesn't count).