Fallow up to Harvey’s and others posts about lawsuit in skiing industry

vtrider

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If you have the time, please take the time to read this.

Recently the topic has been brought up about a certain person who is suing a resort and his school, for major bucks because of an injury that accord on a field trip. For those of you who don’t know, this person was on a field trip, and was snowboarding at a resort where he was riding in a terrain park. When in the park, he landed wrong off a man made obstacle, where he injured his spine when he came down wrong on a landing. Now this kid is a quadriplegic, and for those of you who don’t know what that is, it’s a person who is paralyzed from the neck down, never do have control of his lower body again.

Now on Newschoolers.com this has been a “popular” topic, being that it has the possibility of ending terrain parks indefinitely. Now many individuals on this site are in my mind quite “fired up” about the whole thing. Comments are being made about how this kid needs to be killed, or “the kids a bitch for suing a ski area” or how group mailings should be sent to this kid, to say how we as a whole (newschoolers.com members) don’t like what he is doing to our sport. Now I’m not saying I perticurly agree or disagree with this whole topic in general, but I think that this is taking things too far.

I don’t think a lot of you realize what this kid has to live with for the rest of his life. Now the incident accord when this person was 17 years old. Now the average male lives to be about 78 years old I recall so lets say that he has 61 years to live, being quadriplegic. 61 YEARS without the use of anything from the neck down. THAT’S LIVING HELL. Another thing that people are grumbling about is the so-called “excessive amount” that this person is suing for. Lets say he is suing for 10 million dollars. Now lets break that down, that’s 10,000,000 divided by 61 years, which is roughly 164,000 dollars a year. WOA that’s a lot of money…or is it? Remember folks he is quadriplegic, so he needs attention all of the time. He is going to be in and out of the hospital for the rest of his life, and will never be able to hold a job. That’s NO income. And help does not come cheap, everything costs money.

People say that this kid should not be awarded any money because of how the ticket and terrain park say “Ride at your own Risk.” This KID was under 18 so he is just that, a kid. He is not an adult, which means that he does not always understand the consequences of what he is doing. You could argue that because there was no one there to stop him, (teacher, ski patrol, park ranger) that it is the mountain’s fault. Remember that this is a kid, so automatically someone else is at fault, no matter what. He is under age and can’t take responsibility for himself.

Now the real reason I write this is because I myself almost experienced the same thing. Last year, while racing downhill at the Norba Nationals in Mount snow VT, I basically broke my neck. (I say basically because technically I didn’t, I had a spinal fracture something or other, I still don’t know what I really did but it was as if I had broken my neck) I was very lucky, just under a week in the hospital, and just over a month in a neck brace. Because of my young age I recuperated quickly and did not show any long-term effects that sometimes go along with an injury like so. (Just for reference, my week in the hospital ran up a 30,000+ dollar bill, which does not include physical therapy, fallow up MRI’s and x rays, and other post hospital expenses) Now when it happened, I had paralysis in my arms for a short period.(not able to move my arms)

Now I have been close to what this kid has experienced, and you know what, I support he actions completely. What I am saying is don’t dish shit out until you personally have been there. You all say this and that, but that’s just because you’re so self centered and never think about others for a second. Lay off the kid, I’m sure if you were him you would be looking forward to “Hope you get better” vibes instead of the “die you stupid #*$&%” that you all have been sending.

That’s it for now.

Matt Rihm

 
i have never been there personally so i cant say i know its tough but i bet it is. however, just becasue he cant do shit for the rest of his life doesnt mean he should ruin our sport. think about this.... many resorts have terrain parks, even smaller ones are getting them. at these mountains, more and more people are going just for the park. suddenly, they doint have one because of this lawsuit.the newschool skiers and boarders stup going to the mountain and make terraiin parks in there back yards, on the street, wherever they can. this cause a huge decrease in pass sales. this makes bad buisness for mountains everywhere. also, there would be indeffinatly a decrease in newschool skiing merchandise sold in stores which leads to a decrease in buisness for these buisnesses. Basically what im getting at is that only one person would end up gfining money from this experience, the injured kid who gets 5 million

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anyone who goes skiing or snowboarding knows there are risks involed, especially when you are jumping or in the park. No one made him go off the jump. he knew he was taking risks and he got hurt and he should take responsibility for what happened to him not any one else.

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I agree, but I dont think that terrain parks will ever seice to exist, but get scaled down or park passes might be implayed more. I know for a fact stratton is working on setting up park passes for 2 of there terrain parks for the 04 season. Basicly what whould happen is 2 of strattons parks (da big ones) whould have a ticket checker at the top who only lets qualified park passholders down. to get a pass you have to watch a video, which explains that hazzards of parks, and get a gardian to sign if under 18. that way everyone is happy, guest and insuanse companys.

 
^ whats that going to do? i say if tyhey make park passes, make you at least straight air a 20 foot table

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if terrain parks get tooken away us newschoolers will just evovle to bigger stuff and we'll be getting hurt more and more

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wow... i definately see vtriders point of view

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i dont agree at all really, sure the kid needs all that money and shit for his bills in the future, but i dont see any reason to take away parks from resorts because of this, 1. its not gonna make the kid feel better or make him miraculously start dancing around like michael jackson 2. its not at all the resorts fault 3. its not gonna stop kids from jumping on skis or snowboards, if the kid or his lawyers attacked terrain parks, i would like to say a royal FUCK YOU to them,if anything, resorts should get a bigger paragraph on their insurance contract about dumbasses hurting themselves, i mean fuck, i think this case happened at whistler blackholmb, and i can almost garuntee u that they have signs posted warning u of the dangers u are putting yourself in by entering a terrain park, if u enter the area designated as hazardous, even without reading the sign, ur still willingly putting yourself in danger, not the resort, not the school, and not anyone else, just ur stupid fuckin self, anyone who dosnt realize that really deserves what they get, i may be an asshole, but fuckin come on, what person in their right mind is gonna hit a jump made of solidly packed snow go 20-50 ft up in the air and land on hard pack snow and not expect anything to happen if u dont know what your doing, a dumbass, its not right for any one person to cause an infinite amount of people to miss out on a great thing, if all terrain parks are banned as a result of this kid, i hope the next 61 years of his life are extra shitty

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what sawyed the jury probably is seeing the kid in his wheel chair not able to do anything. Maybe it would have helped if every newschool skier and border packed the court room in favor of whistler, then they could have seen the impact of there ignorant decision

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ya youre missing the piont though how shoudl he be able to sue the resort for somethign stupid he did, Bottom line is people need to start taking more responsibility for the things that do these days and stop blaming other people

 
and now ill argue all the gay ass shit that i really htink is stupid but have to say anyway, us and boarders are the future of snow sports (at resorts) and without terrain parks many people (rats) would stop skiing and boarding, now tourism may be teh main source of income to some resorts, but to most places the people who are there 3-7 times a week and are eating at the resteraunts every day and going to repair shops, and all the other stuff, theyre the real base of the money going into most resorts, with a loss of parks there could be a huge loss of money to many smaller resorts, and thats not good

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anyone ever consider that this kid is not only quadriplegic but also unable to make his own defense? i.e. his parents are the ones suing the pants off everyone and their mom. If this is the case, i can almost understand, since they probably have no concern of the effect this might have on our sport and figure this is the only way they can stay out of a lifetime of bankruptcy. I'm not condoning it, i think it's as rediculous as the next person, but seeing as the kid is only 17, he himself is not going to be able to find lawyers. He can't even pick up the phone to call a lawyer for christs sake! Besides, i've seen far worse, such as parents of kids that died at columbine suing video game manufacturers for millions of dollars because supposedly video games caused eric and dylan to shoot all those people.

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all i have to say is that he was 17 when it happened, and all that weavier/signage/liabilty stuff gets thrown out the window.

 
1. A 17 year old IS responsible for his own actions. If a court can find a 12 year old kid guilty of a major crime, this 'smart' 17 year old knew damn well what he was doing.

2. He had only snowboarded ' 5 or 6 times before', yet decided to attempt a 40 foot jump???

3. He plays sports and has received a scholarship to go to school? You say he will never be able to hold a job??? BULLSHIT

4. Yes, he will never be able to walk again, but that unfortunately is the result of his poor decision. People have to live with consequences of bad actions every day....not all of them are awarded 3 million dollars.

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who is to judge who can get a prak pass? can anyone go and buy one? or do they have to somehow qualify to get one? thats kinda discrimination if you ask me. because what if you yourself weren't good enough to get this park pass? how would you feel...

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i think your in love with the cripple.

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i think the park pass would just be a way for the resorts to make sure everyone in the park (or a guardian) has signed a wavier that holds them responsible for their actions, so that they dont get sued...not to keep sucky kids out of the park

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I agree with vtrider...imagine if everything you loved to do in life was taken away from you in an instant...I can imagine what that would be like.

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^well u know, everything in my life is goin ok right now, im just fuckin peachy, but if in a few years i cant ski in a terrain park because of this kids personal fuck up, then im gonna crack some skulls

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if u can hurt yourself in somthing that qualifies as a mini park, u deserve a darwin award

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yeah thats horrible..i mean im sure almost all have played a school sport or something for example...not being able to do that would be so depressing..watching things u used to do..you take them for granted but when you lose them theres nothing you can do..

my cousin brian class (in k2's sig)spent a week in ICU for spleen damage...not as bad as paralasys but bad

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actually, i remember one time last season when a tourist hurt himself on a 6 foot funbox, he broke his neck or back or somthin, i felt for him then only cause i was 10 ft from him when he fell, but if teh parks had been shut down because of him, i would have really liked to have kicked him in the face

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imagine how bad you would feel if you helped ruin an entire sport just because of your own misfortune (and *COUGH*stupidity*COUGH*)

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being that hes only snowboarded 5 or 6 times, he probly wouldnt give a flying fuck

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and there is hope for him, thanks to cocksucking selfish celebritys, ground breaking research is being paid for, he'll walk again.

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yeah christopher lloyd can walk again cuz of stem cell research--i saw it on south park

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not lloyd, reeves.

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i siad this on orignal post

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doh i typed that and didn't even realize i was talking about fester addams and not clark kent

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what's the point of sueing anyways?? his rents are gayyy. getting 5 million dollars can not cure paralysis. and if i had only skateboarded 5 times and did that i'd feel very bad for ruining the sport of skateboarding, even if i hated it.

 


Lets see it from a non-skied eralted point of view

i ( being a 16 year old ) used my man made car and crashed into a man made building at 90 km/h cause i decided to drive fast and did not brake before the turn even if they sahad a sign saying 50 km/h max.

woukld that be logical for me to sue the governement for letting me drive too fast and taking a curve at a speed that was too high for me to stay in control...

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'getting 5 million dollars can not cure paralysis.' yeah it can.

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ced, you prove my point of wtf is all this lawsuit bullshit. 'im fat, i sue macdonalds' 'someone shot my kid i sue video game makers' shit like this. 50 years ago we didnt have this politically correct lawsuit bullcrap, and we were getting along fine, no big probelm. I honestly think you guy should be criticizin the LAW not the person who is sueing, if the LAW does in INJUSTICE to the PEOPLE, than, its not good law then is it?



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why wouldnt the family sue htink about it. a lady sued mcy d's for serving coffee too hot and she won. if a kid breaks his neck skiing and the family sues u think nowadays that he is gtoing to lose the case? fuck no. i am supporting this kid and family 100 percent and if you were in the same situation you all would be suing also.

 
^great i never have to think for myself now cuz this fuckin guy speaks for me!

don't tell me or anyone else on here what they would or wouldn't do in that situation

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haha..maybes theres more than one but the lady that sued mcdonalds for the coffee lives down the road from me

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^you should leave flaming folgers crystals cans filled with dog shit on her front porch

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didnt some other guy sue burger king becuase it made him fat and won. i think thats what i heard

 
who made the mistake in the cofee thing??? mcdo... who made the mistake in the kid case.. the kid... whistler should sue him for being a statistic that make their insurance cost even more then 3 times more then in the last 2 years...

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areyo u saying that ify ou were in the same position you would accept it? i odnt believe that for shit

 
i say that every day i snap the buckles on my boots and step into my bindings. do the words SKI AT YOUR OWN RISK and SKI WITHIN YOU OWN ABILITIES mean anything to you? if you fell off a cliff you were climbing would you sue the BLM? when you get into a car crash (like cedric said) do you sue the dept of transportation? if you were bryan gallant would you sue NS for severe emotional trauma? of fucking course not because that's the risk you assume every day you choose to partake in these activities. when people get mad fucked up in car accidents, they sue the person at fault. if that is another person, so be it. if the person at fault is yourself, like this kid, what do you do? can you sue yourself for fucking your shit up in a car accident? of course not, so why can this kid sue someone else for something that was his own fault.

bottom line....if i fucked myself up skiing i would put the blame solely on one entity: MYSELF. maybe this is because i've skied for twenty years and this kid only skied for a week, but you have to take responsibility for your own actions

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telling me what i would or would not do is not a 'logical thought' considering you do not and will not ever know me

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i really disagree with u saying hec's a kid and didnt, know the consequences. If your 17 u know what your doin and should take responsibcility for yor actions, he may need money for med bills but he can still work and support himself,

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ok strodeo and ced have pretty much rapped up this thread, its time for it to die, and to all of the people who are saying *whiny voice* 'well if u were in his situation u would do the same nanana, hes not gonna be able to do anything for the rest of his life' well boohoo, its all sad and all that, but its not me, so i dont give a shit, u might get somewhere in life by feelin sorry for people, but that somewhere will be on ur knees suckin off the man

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