F$@k On3p And Jake Doan terrible Business and Team Rider/ Seller

_salty_

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Let me start this off by saying I used to be a big fan of on3p, I rode their skis for 2 years prior and this would have been the third so I'm not just hating. This is going to be a long ass thread so grab some popcorn and sit back... and hopefully learn from my mistake of trusting accountability from team riders and on3p because I know a lot of their riders sell on here.

So to start it off I bought a pair of On3p Prester off Jake Doan on March 28th, Jake told me the skis were like new with one mount and they came with a pair of pretty cosmetically beat up fks 140's but they worked perfectly physically.(he had me send the money to his wife)

So I got the skis no problem and gave them the quick look over and nothing seemed out of place, a few months passed because it was the middle of the summer and I was not touching the skis, then came the day when I sold the fks off them (personally I do not like the orange, too flashy that's why I sold them). So I go to pull the bindings off the skis and I first notice that the little metal bracket in one of the heel pieces is missing (pictured below)

Here is the piece

Then I noticed that the skis had two mounts on them and the one that wasn't supposed to be there is right where I wanted to remount them, so at this point I am furious and go to text Jake about what he sold me-here is our conversation:

IMAGES WITH PERSONAL INFORMATION HAVE BEEN REMOVED. THEY ARE POSTED AGAIN BELOW WITH THE INFORMATION REMOVED.

So basically he stopped texting me and started ignoring me, so I just tried to move on and I was able to still sell the bindings to someone for $115 and yes of course they knew about the part missing and there exact condition.

The more I thought about what happened the more mad I got, so I decided to email On3p and tell them what happened hoping there would finally be some accountability given. I explained to them what happened and I even sent them all the screenshots and info I had. After what seemed like my interrogation they said they would look into it. To add insult to injury throughout the whole thing they never apologized or said I'm sorry for a representative of there company ripping me off . A week or two passed and they emailed me asking if I had an update and of course Jake was not responding so I had none. Then after that they just stopped emailing so I was just shit out of luck and still am.

I was not going to make this thread but with winter approaching and the skis being more valuable as fire wood than skis to me I figured loosing that $260 should be a lesson I learned and shared with everybody. Don't trust Team riders and look over your gear with a super fine tooth comb even if it means pulling off bindings. Also don't ever trust a company to pull through and do the right thing (especially On3p).

TLDR: Jake Doan screwed me over by selling me a pair of skis not as described then when asked to correct his bad decision he refused making excuses. Then when going to On3p and telling them a representative of their Company and Brand ripped me off they made no apology and pretty much ignored the issue.

**This thread was edited on Nov 27th 2016 at 6:06:25pm
 
You bought a used pair of skis off the Internet. Should have just kept the bindings on them. All would have been fine.

Also, I've always found it funny that people get skis for free from a company and then sell them for profit at seasons end or whenever. If I was a company owner I'd put a clause in about that. I don't like that idea or concept. If someone's making a profit it better be me/the company not some others.
 
13755569:SkiBum. said:
Also, I've always found it funny that people get skis for free from a company and then sell them for profit at seasons end or whenever. If I was a company owner I'd put a clause in about that. I don't like that idea or concept. If someone's making a profit it better be me/the company not some others.

Skiers will do this to help pay bills, especially when they don't receive direct money from the company. I used to feel the same way, but the company gave the skis to the rider to help with marketing and whatnot and when the season ends / the skier gets new skis, who cares what they do with the old ones.

The skis aren't given out with the intention of them being returned at the end of the season, when a rider gets a pair of skis from a company the ownership of the skis changes from the company to the rider. If the rider is getting new ones from the company for next season, then the rider should sell off the old ones to help buy next seasons pass / pay for rent / buy a shitload of top ramen / etc...

It helps a lot of up and coming riders continue to ski, and selling used skis is (most of the time) more of a hassle for a company than it's worth.
 
13755569:SkiBum. said:
You bought a used pair of skis off the Internet. Should have just kept the bindings on them. All would have been fine.

I still would have had to remount them and if I didn't find it and sold it to some one else I would have screwed them, so no all would not have been fine
 
13755584:_salty_ said:
I still would have had to remount them and if I didn't find it and sold it to some one else I would have screwed them, so no all would not have been fine

Well why did you buy skis then had bindings set to big and had to be remounted. Sounds dumb.

Also, did you expect the company to give you a free pair after you attempted to bitch at them? Lol...
 
Yeah that's pretty messed up that he would claim they were only mounted once, but they were actually drilled twice. Regardless of if they were ridden on the second mount, does it really matter?
 
13755600:SourSteezle said:
Yeah that's pretty messed up that he would claim they were only mounted once, but they were actually drilled twice. Regardless of if they were ridden on the second mount, does it really matter?

Holes in skis are holes in skis, whether or not they were ridden at both mounts.
 
13755597:SkiBum. said:
Well why did you buy skis then had bindings set to big and had to be remounted. Sounds dumb.

Also, did you expect the company to give you a free pair after you attempted to bitch at them? Lol...

I bought them because like most people I do not have a thousand bucks to spend on a setup I want...
 
13755597:SkiBum. said:
Well why did you buy skis then had bindings set to big and had to be remounted. Sounds dumb.

Also, did you expect the company to give you a free pair after you attempted to bitch at them? Lol...

Also asking a company for some accountability when some one who is paid by them to represent their brand goes and does something bad is not bitching at them it's stating the facts. Also I did not ask any thing of on3p I have no idea where you are getting that from?
 
13755609:_salty_ said:
Also asking a company for some accountability when some one who is paid by them to represent their brand goes and does something bad is not bitching at them it's stating the facts. Also I did not ask any thing of on3p I have no idea where you are getting that from?

what, specifically, did you want On3P to do?
 
13755623:_salty_ said:
I don't understand the question then that is pretty specific

"making it right" is not specific. that is very general and subjective.

did you want them to fire jake doan? did you want them to give you a new pair of skis?

what specifically did you want On3P to do? specifically?
 
topic:_salty_ said:
Let me start this off by saying I used to be a big fan of on3p, I rode their skis for 2 years prior and this would have been the third so I'm not just hating. This is going to be a long ass thread so grab some popcorn and sit back... and hopefully learn from my mistake of trusting accountability from team riders and on3p because I know a lot of their riders sell on here.

So to start it off I bought a pair of On3p Prester off Jake Doan on March 28th, Jake told me the skis were like new with one mount and they came with a pair of pretty cosmetically beat up fks 140's but they worked perfectly physically.(he had me send the money to his wife)

So I got the skis no problem and gave them the quick look over and nothing seemed out of place, a few months passed because it was the middle of the summer and I was not touching the skis, then came the day when I sold the fks off them (personally I do not like the orange, too flashy that's why I sold them). So I go to pull the bindings off the skis and I first notice that the little metal bracket in one of the heel pieces is missing (pictured below)

Here is the piece

Then I noticed that the skis had two mounts on them and the one that wasn't supposed to be there is right where I wanted to remount them, so at this point I am furious and go to text Jake about what he sold me-here is our conversation

IMAGES REMOVED DUE TO PERSONAL INFORMATION BEING POSTED PUBLICALLY

So basically he stopped texting me and started ignoring me, so I just tried to move on and I was able to still sell the bindings to someone for $115 and yes of course they knew about the part missing and there exact condition.

The more I thought about what happened the more mad I got, so I decided to email On3p and tell them what happened hoping there would finally be some accountability given. I explained to them what happened and I even sent them all the screenshots and info I had. After what seemed like my interrogation they said they would look into it. To add insult to injury throughout the whole thing they never apologized or said I'm sorry for a representative of there company ripping me off . A week or two passed and they emailed me asking if I had an update and of course Jake was not responding so I had none. Then after that they just stopped emailing so I was just shit out of luck and still am.

I was not going to make this thread but with winter approaching and the skis being more valuable as fire wood than skis to me I figured loosing that $260 should be a lesson I learned and shared with everybody. Don't trust Team riders and look over your gear with a super fine tooth comb even if it means pulling off bindings. Also don't ever trust a company to pull through and do the right thing (especially On3p).

TLDR: Jake Doan screwed me over by selling me a pair of skis not as described then when asked to correct his bad decision he refused making excuses. Then when going to On3p and telling them a representative of their Company and Brand ripped me off they made no apology and pretty much ignored the issue.

So you're trying to basically not spent any money on skis? Wouldn't that be ripping people off to ride a ski for a fair bit of time, and then turn around and sell them for what you paid?

**This post was edited on Nov 27th 2016 at 5:51:04pm
 
13755632:Jibberino said:
So you're trying to basically not spent any money on skis? Wouldn't that be ripping people off to ride a ski for a fair bit of time, and then turn around and sell them for what you paid?

/thread
 
Pretty sure you got functioning skis with functioning bindings, as advertised, for a good price. You can't reasonably expect them to be brand new when you're getting them for that price.
 
13755623:_salty_ said:
I don't understand the question then that is pretty specific

13755626:californiagrown said:
"making it right" is not specific. that is very general and subjective.

did you want them to fire jake doan? did you want them to give you a new pair of skis?

what specifically did you want On3P to do? specifically?

OP, what say you?
 
IDK how to mount skis, so I'm kinda biased but a) yeah he ripped you off but he wasn't a total asshole about it b) after two people using them the skis won't be in good condition anyway and c) mad clickbait
 
13755586:_salty_ said:
How so skis were not as described?

From the Original Thread:

"-mounted once for a 27.5 full tilt at 2cm back, and one ski was mounted twice by accident but the holes were filled right away and never skied on."

/thread
 
13755644:Mingg said:
From the Original Thread:

"-mounted once for a 27.5 full tilt at 2cm back, and one ski was mounted twice by accident but the holes were filled right away and never skied on."

/thread

Dumbass. OP should snowboard instead.
 
13755644:Mingg said:
From the Original Thread:

"-mounted once for a 27.5 full tilt at 2cm back, and one ski was mounted twice by accident but the holes were filled right away and never skied on."

/thread

While I agree OP is unrightfully butthurt, this was the description for the Jeffries? (Or other ski), not the presters
 
Also pretty shady to include ON3P in this. You didn't buy from them and their skis aren't the issue. They don't owe you a damn thing and saying they're a terrible business for not giving your entitled ass anything is lame as fuck.
 
13755644:Mingg said:
From the Original Thread:

"-mounted once for a 27.5 full tilt at 2cm back, and one ski was mounted twice by accident but the holes were filled right away and never skied on."

/thread

If you read the thread those were for the Jeffries not the presters
 
13755641:californiagrown said:
OP, what say you?

Well I want on3p to tell Jake make the situation right, I'm open to ideas but right now I think that looks like me sending the skis back to him and getting the $260
 
it's not ON3P's responsibility to babysit their riders 3rd party dealings. Plus its seems you should have known there was another set of holes in the ski. The only issue here is maybe the binding was missing the plate but you shouldn't have waited months to bring that up. for all we know you lost it while you were taking the bindings off of the skis.

also probably not cool to post someone's phone number without their consent.
 
13755652:Mingg said:
Also pretty shady to include ON3P in this. You didn't buy from them and their skis aren't the issue. They don't owe you a damn thing and saying they're a terrible business for not giving your entitled ass anything is lame as fuck.

No they don't owe me a damn thing but when someone who represents their company does something shitty it deserves to be called out. The reason I am including them is because when I brought the issue to their attention they did nothing.
 
13755663:_salty_ said:
No they don't owe me a damn thing but when someone who represents their company does something shitty it deserves to be called out. The reason I am including them is because when I brought the issue to their attention they did nothing.

Since you're a fan of airing personal grievances online maybe someone should post your phone number so we can all talk about this
 
13755663:_salty_ said:
No they don't owe me a damn thing but when someone who represents their company does something shitty it deserves to be called out. The reason I am including them is because when I brought the issue to their attention they did nothing.

Dude just stop what you are doing is the biggest dick move Ive seen on NS in years.
 
I removed the images with Jake's personal info. Personal info should not be posted publicly in the forums.

For the sake of the thread, I've edited them and will post them back up here. I'll respond to the thread in a bit.

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this is honestly mad funny. hope ON3P makes an instagram post blasting this kid to make it even.
 
He did show a picture of the ski's with holes in them and the bindings off. He could have meant mounted once before. I agree the situation does suck but that's just life. Sorry to hear man.
 
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Waiting for iggy or jakes response like
 
You bought a pair of used skis. Onp3 had nothing to do with your purchase so I see no reason for you to bitch about them. If they have a policy about their riders selling their old skis and if that policy was violated then that is something they will deal with internally. Either way, that has nothjng to do with you and onp3 as a company. You made a private transaction and should be dealt with privately with the person you bought them from. If you aren't willing to take some bad with the good buying used, suck it up and save your money for another year and buy new. When you have the funds.

I bought a lawn tractor this summer. The guy didn't tell me the engine leaked, the deck was put on wrong and fell off the second time I started it. Well he wasn't going to take it back so I sold it before I even used it to mow and told the new buyer about he problems. I lost $100 in the end but manned up and dealt with it. I got a push mower for now...cost me $50 and takes me twice as long to mow my lawn but I sucked it up until next year. Suck it up, man.

Onp3 doesn't owe you shit, if you are indeed looking for some sort of compensation from them.
 
Came here to defend core brand and good homie. Apart from the fact that's not his wife I think this thread is under control lol.
 
13755659:_salty_ said:
Well I want on3p to tell Jake make the situation right, I'm open to ideas but right now I think that looks like me sending the skis back to him and getting the $260

So you want a refund because you didn't read the sellers description well?

And now you feel it is prudent to try and intentionally cost a company sales because you are getting emotional about a mistake you made.

How in gods name is on3p at all responsible for this? Why the fuck did you drag their name through the mud?

You are such an entitled little bitch. Fucking Christ you are dumb too.
 
This whole thing is a scam to cover up the fact that he sent some dudes wife $375.00, for who knows what. There never was any skis.
 
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