Ever see someone with a gun in store and want to kick thier ass..

13469040:onenerdykid said:
So you guys think that should be a good thing for police to do? This should be the new SOP for Stateies?

Once you guys swap your flowery living conditions in the USA for Mexico, then I might believe you.

Do you know what a vacation is? Because I am not sure how you came to this conclusion.

And don't preach your bullshit my way. Your assumptions about people being bad is just as false as my assumption that they are good. That's the bottom line, trusting others.

Freedom is about trust not regulations
 
13469074:DubV134 said:
And don't preach your bullshit my way. Your assumptions about people being bad is just as false as my assumption that they are good. That's the bottom line, trusting others.

Freedom is about trust not regulations

Never said that people were inherently bad (or stupid, as you might have thought from my other post). Nor are we inherently good. We have the potential for both/either.

While a part of freedom is about trust (in that I hope you don't end mine), the idea of freedom also presupposes that you necessarily shouldn't do anything that would lead to taking away of another's freedom. This is then what all free beings think (or assume or take for granted) and this is how you arrive at a commonality of human rights. If you believe in freedom, you necessarily believe in human rights, and once you play that through into the world of human interaction and social contract you will see how it's not bullshit.

Just an FYI- don't confuse "freedom" with "what you want to do", that will conclude with you not being free.
 
13468791:californiagrown said:
those people are a legitimate threat to shoot up what ever store/place they just entered.

How is that not a good use of the police? i identified a mass murder threat and tried to do something about it.

I saw a sketchy looking guy with a gun walk into a walmart. how do you not immediatley call the cops? How does the guy who watched the LA theater shooter walk into a theater with a gun feel? probly not great, even though he was "supporting open carry".

well guess what. that mentality will allow more mass shootings to happen, and more people too be killed because no one has the fucking balls to warn them.

13468812:californiagrown said:
So you are getting angry and resorting to calling me names? Prime example of the type of emotionally ruled shithead running around with a gun that i am talking about.

this is why you cant have nice things.

and this is why we shouldnt be allowed to open carry.

First you say to call SWAT on someone who is open carrying just to give them the attention they want.

Now you say that instead this person is an automatic mass shooter threat because they're open carrying.

I saw a guy open carrying in walmart and I didn't even care because he wasn't a threat at all. He was grabbing milk and minding his own business.

Baha and some double standard your living when you're offended from being a called a name yet you insult people on a daily basis on here.
 
13469097:JAHpow said:
First you say to call SWAT on someone who is open carrying just to give them the attention they want.

Now you say that instead this person is an automatic mass shooter threat because they're open carrying.

I saw a guy open carrying in walmart and I didn't even care because he wasn't a threat at all. He was grabbing milk and minding his own business.

Baha and some double standard your living when you're offended from being a called a name yet you insult people on a daily basis on here.

Just to add fuel to the fire

If that man open carrying was black with some tats and gang colors on would you be threatened

Lolz
 
13469114:Lonely said:
Just to add fuel to the fire

If that man open carrying was black with some tats and gang colors on would you be threatened

Lolz

Grabbing milk?

Still no
 
13469114:Lonely said:
Just to add fuel to the fire

If that man open carrying was black with some tats and gang colors on would you be threatened

Lolz

lol. No.

When guys go undercover with gang elements they don't use holsters because it would 'give them away.'

The most dangerous holstered weapons to US citizens these days are those that belong to the police. If you see someone with a holstered weapon, you can be calm knowing that he is very unlikely to shoot you, unless he is a cop.
 
13469097:JAHpow said:
First you say to call SWAT on someone who is open carrying just to give them the attention they want.

Now you say that instead this person is an automatic mass shooter threat because they're open carrying.

I saw a guy open carrying in walmart and I didn't even care because he wasn't a threat at all. He was grabbing milk and minding his own business.

Baha and some double standard your living when you're offended from being a called a name yet you insult people on a daily basis on here.

I never insult people personally.

What are the reasons someone deems it necessary to open carry in a suburban environment? Especially when it's a rifle haha.
 
13469289:californiagrown said:
I never insult people personally.

What are the reasons someone deems it necessary to open carry in a suburban environment? Especially when it's a rifle haha.

That's a lie and you know it.

For the same reason they would carry it in an urban environment.

I will agree on why a rifle, that just seems cumbersome and "overkill"
 
13469328:JAHpow said:
That's a lie and you know it.

For the same reason they would carry it in an urban environment.

I will agree on why a rifle, that just seems cumbersome and "overkill"

I never personally insult people on here.

The reason folks move to the burbs is so they can live in a safer community. Guess the suburban open carriers didn't get that memo, huh? Now everyone is looking at them as the sketchy character.

Or do they just wanna be badasses? Let's be real, that's the reason most people do it. It's not out of need, but want. And people who want to be badasses and chose guns as their route scare the shit out of me.
 
13469289:californiagrown said:
I never insult people personally.

What are the reasons someone deems it necessary to open carry in a suburban environment? Especially when it's a rifle haha.

Yes you do
 
13469483:Lonely said:
Yes you do

No, you just take it personally when i make derogatory generalizations about those who follow a specific ideology. I specify you personally as having those terrible(yet usually funny) characteristics.
 
13469586:californiagrown said:
No, you just take it personally when i make derogatory generalizations about those who follow a specific ideology. I specify you personally as having those terrible(yet usually funny) characteristics.

Oh sorry I got it confused. It's all okay then since you make ignorant derogatory statements about groups not individuala. Okay I get it. And your argument of there's no need in a surburban environment to open carry is dumb. Go to a place like lavera and 8 mile strip in Detroit. Or Chicago's projects. But it really seems like you haven't been, but you continue to make assumptions anyways
 
13469367:californiagrown said:
I never personally insult people on here.

The reason folks move to the burbs is so they can live in a safer community. Guess the suburban open carriers didn't get that memo, huh? Now everyone is looking at them as the sketchy character.

Or do they just wanna be badasses? Let's be real, that's the reason most people do it. It's not out of need, but want. And people who want to be badasses and chose guns as their route scare the shit out of me.

CaliforniaGrownParanoid.

Youve personally insulted me multiple times.
 
13469692:Lonely said:
Oh sorry I got it confused. It's all okay then since you make ignorant derogatory statements about groups not individuala. Okay I get it. And your argument of there's no need in a surburban environment to open carry is dumb. Go to a place like lavera and 8 mile strip in Detroit. Or Chicago's projects. But it really seems like you haven't been, but you continue to make assumptions anyways

You don't know the difference between suburban and urban, huh?

Not to mention, guns seem to be doing lots of good in those areas... Lol.

Do you feel insulted now?
 
13469701:californiagrown said:
You don't know the difference between suburban and urban, huh?

Not to mention, guns seem to be doing lots of good in those areas... Lol.

Do you feel insulted now?

Hahaha again you show your ignorance. The rough parts of Detroit and Chicago are not downtown in the urban area. The most dangerous part of Detroit is not the just the inner city. Most neighborhoods and ringing suburbs ( 8 mile being the one that everyone knows) are more dangerous. Suburban single home areas surrounding the city are victim to most of gang related violence. Have you ever heard of devils night? So yes I do know the difference. I also know the area I'm talking about. And I don't feel insulted because I can not take your statements seriously
 
13469792:Lonely said:
Hahaha again you show your ignorance. The rough parts of Detroit and Chicago are not downtown in the urban area. The most dangerous part of Detroit is not the just the inner city. Most neighborhoods and ringing suburbs ( 8 mile being the one that everyone knows) are more dangerous. Suburban single home areas surrounding the city are victim to most of gang related violence. Have you ever heard of devils night? So yes I do know the difference. I also know the area I'm talking about. And I don't feel insulted because I can not take your statements seriously

So, you still have no idea what suburbia is. Or, you're a really inefficient, troll.
 
13469795:californiagrown said:
So, you still have no idea what suburbia is. Or, you're a really inefficient, troll.

A suburb is a residential area or a mixed use area, either existing as part of a city or urban area or as a separate residential community within commuting distance of a city

This is your idea of a suburb

0826_suburbs_cog.jpg


This is what suburbs can be and what I'm talking about

Detroit-empty-street.jpg


Your definition seems to be that a suburb or suburban area is a mostly shit area with low crime. The reality is in some places, it is not that. Those places are where I can understand the mentality of having a gun.
 
13469803:Lonely said:
A suburb is a residential area or a mixed use area, either existing as part of a city or urban area or as a separate residential community within commuting distance of a city

This is your idea of a suburb

0826_suburbs_cog.jpg


This is what suburbs can be and what I'm talking about

Detroit-empty-street.jpg


Your definition seems to be that a suburb or suburban area is a mostly shit area with low crime. The reality is in some places, it is not that. Those places are where I can understand the mentality of having a gun.

Dat thug mentality, right? That'll get you far.
 
13469888:californiagrown said:
Dat thug mentality, right? That'll get you far.

What even haha. This the classic I don't have a response ad hominem. Classy Cali grown.

Stay ignorant my friends
 
13469803:Lonely said:
A suburb is a residential area or a mixed use area, either existing as part of a city or urban area or as a separate residential community within commuting distance of a city

This is your idea of a suburb

0826_suburbs_cog.jpg


This is what suburbs can be and what I'm talking about

Detroit-empty-street.jpg


Your definition seems to be that a suburb or suburban area is a mostly shit area with low crime. The reality is in some places, it is not that. Those places are where I can understand the mentality of having a gun.

13469888:californiagrown said:
Dat thug mentality, right? That'll get you far.

You didn't even refute this? Lol
 
13470026:Lonely said:
You didn't even refute this? Lol

You cite exceptions, and reason with them as if they are the rule. I'm attempting to have a discussion with logical, rational thought and you simply are incapable of either.
 
13466547:S.J.W said:
Guns scare the living shit out of me. Coming from Australia where I rarely see guns, and when I see a police officer, or a secruity guard, etc holding a gun I don't trust them. Exact same when I went to America for a little holiday. Didn't like it one bit, didn't trust them and felt scared for pretty much my whole tripp. Yeah 99.9% of the time it's all good and I'm allowing my emotions to better my rational thinking. But it just takes one snap of the brain for someone to kill someone. Once you pull that trigger you can't get that bullet back. Where as if someone snaps and tries to beat me up I'm pretty confident I could handle them pretty easily.

TLDR, guns scare me, emotions over rational thinking.

hahahahahahahhahahahahaahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahaha
 
13470038:californiagrown said:
You cite exceptions, and reason with them as if they are the rule. I'm attempting to have a discussion with logical, rational thought and you simply are incapable of either.

I sure examples to show a different side. That's how an debate works lol
 
13470215:Lonely said:
I sure examples to show a different side. That's how an debate works lol

You seem like the kinda guy who cites cars being more deadly than guns as a reason for no gun control.

You are just really not good at seeing the similarities and differences between ideas.

You were probly pretty terrible at the "crack is to peanut as _______ is to door" section of the SATs, huh?
 
13470302:californiagrown said:
You seem like the kinda guy who cites cars being more deadly than guns as a reason for no gun control.

You are just really not good at seeing the similarities and differences between ideas.

You were probly pretty terrible at the "crack is to peanut as _______ is to door" section of the SATs, huh?

Well I did get a perfect act and graduated with a 4.23 but yeah whatever it's not relevant. The fact of the matter is you said there's no reason to carry in a surburban area, I gave examples where it would seem like a good idea. I'm actually for more gun control and have said so in other posts. And here it is again you personally insulting someone. I guess this site needed a new frenchy
 
13470370:Lonely said:
Well I did get a perfect act and graduated with a 4.23 but yeah whatever it's not relevant. The fact of the matter is you said there's no reason to carry in a surburban area, I gave examples where it would seem like a good idea. I'm actually for more gun control and have said so in other posts. And here it is again you personally insulting someone. I guess this site needed a new frenchy

you dont know what an insult is, huh?
 
13470383:californiagrown said:
oh man, you just dont get it do you?

Guess not you must know it all. Haha. This is exactly what people say when THEY don't get it.
 
13465814:skiforce1 said:
Before anyone says I hate guns I don't I own 3 of them a 7mm 08 a 12 gauge pump and a 410 signal shot. I use them to hunt and that's it. When I'm not hunting they aren't with me. I find no need to drive around with a weapon in my car. I know call me crazy.

All depends on where you live i guess.

I live in the middle of Atlanta, as a construction worker. That means I have a lot of valuable tools/equipment that makes me a target to be robbed, since this is quite easy to pawn.

I went out and bought a pistol, and keep it in my car the day that a man was killed in the Kroger parking lot for his work truck. Shot in the head, middle of the day. Left behind a wife and kids.
 
I would just chill the fuck out dude. Not a big deal or uncommon at all. You see 3 people open carrying and miss about 100 concealed carrying. Sure lots of them are douchey about it, but plenty of people do it for legitimate reason and do so responsibly and without anyone knowing or becoming uncomfortable.

Do I think I need one or have interest in carrying a gun? No, I think it'd be more of a hassle than a help. But others do an I really don't care. Those certainly are not the people I'm worried about. I'm worried about the psycho who no one bothered to say "Good Morning" to his whole life watching murderers get glorified on Fox News.
 
13466332:hotdog. said:
Dear OP,

If I was concealed carrying, and you attempted to beat my ass out of the blue, I would shoot you dead without thinking twice.

Sincerely,

-Hotdog. The gun owner concerned for his safety and society as to why someone decided to randomly attack me in public.

By attacking these people you would be creating a problem that can be solved easily by a fire arm. More likely to escalate whatever problem that they are having? Yea, if someone is threatening my life, my family, etc, I would pull my gun on them. It is completely legal, and quickly nullifies situations. If that person were to come at me and attempt to attack me, they die, end of story.

Bottom line, play stupid games win stupid prizes. You're pissed off Tommy Gunz has a gun in the grocery store? Well he's pissed off that he was mugged two weeks ago walking home from the grocery store.

Also just FYI, its common gun safety practice that if you pull a gun on someone you better use it, so, many people who do carry rarely actually draw on anyone.

Pretty sure it is still murder if you shoot and kill an unarmed man.
 
until you see me carrying and i beat you down for attempting to punch me in the face

But, think of this your in that same supermarket and a (insert racial slur here) comes in shooting, threatening to kill everyone. The guy with the gun shoots the (insert racial slur). now everything is fine and your safe instead of dead.
 
I have my CHL and carry regularly. I personally think open carry is dumb, but if its legal where you live and you want to walk around advertising that you are carrying then go for it.
 
A legally licensed concealed carry storeowner shot two robbers today in the southside of chicago today. Good on him, 99 percent of ppl that carry are just going about their business.
 
A dude had an open carry pistol at a biker group BBQ we had. Pissed my gf off so bad, I mean who needs a gun in a park at a large BBQ? Then again, it was like a mile away from Columbine High so who knows what that guy has been through. Guns to solve guns :-)

My gf is a pussy apparently, but I couldn't care less. I'll probably never open carry myself. I have some guns that all they do is sit away locked in the safe, but I've always wanted to stash one in the garage in case some road rager ever follows me home cause I drive so bad ass
 
What I'm really not a fan of is that the way the law works is that you effectively get to be an executioner for stuff like simple assault/battery and robbery/bugulary. Some junkie/povo person's just trying to steal your PlayStation, doesn't mean he has to die because you're 'defending your property'. The justice system exists for a reason.

Also, spend some time living in a (relatively) gun-free society. Not having to worry about guns being around just makes everything a bit more chill, especially cops.
 
The USA has a disease that is called guns. It's a mental illness that has been festering in it's citizens since the second amendment. there will never be a solution to gun violence in America until people realize guns shouldn't be a part of everyday life (except for hunting). but it's way too late to change the mindset, the plague is forever.
 
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