they're really fun skis. they are soooo at home in fresh pow, especially in the trees. if you ski a lot of steep stuff or a lot of chopped up snow/crud, you're gonna want something beefier. i ski about 50% trees (whenever there's fresh) and they are just so flippin sick. i can take lines through trees that i wouldn't even dream of trying on my other skis. plus the symmetricalness makes them sick switch. they need to constantly be on edge though. they hold an edge great, but going straight is sketchy. they definitely aren't fast either.
it's been said over and over, but i'll say it again. these aren't a big mountain ski. fun as hell though