Dont mount your skis dead center

wesley.

wesley.

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This only really applies to "park rats" because I don't want to provide misinformation to people who spend more time in the woods. DONT GET CENTER MOUNTED SKIS

the center mount days are over... people are starting to realize it effects the skis performance (henrik, and clayton to name a few... not that this should influence your decision) and are mounting skis 1-2 cm back.

This is because it just makes more sense. When you're skiing, you want your shins against the front of your boots. The same thing applies to skiing switch. It gives you more control over the ski and you honestly will barley feel a difference.

That is all
 
Explain how mounting 1-2 cm back keeps my shins against my boots more than dead center.. And for switch.. Actually elaborate your whole argument, because as of now I would never ski anything anywhere that was center mounted.
 
no way, me too! I highly doubt if you have symmetrical skis that are center mounted it totally kills your preformance, please elaborate, why it is beneficial to us "park rats" to be mounted back?
 
it doesn't keep your shins against your boots. it provides more support for if your shins are against your boots. a lot of skis have flex patterns. a 2cm difference can completely change the way a ski will ski. If you know how to turn and actually ski, the ski will be easier to handle because there can be less resistance on the tip of the ski. Because of that you're using less force.

sorry if this is kinda confusing I'm having trouble explaining what i'm trying to say
 
by the way i used to strictly center mount but last year someone suggested i try 2 cm back. I personally feel like I have more control over my skis
 
those are meant to be center. Personally if the ski isn't symmetrical I won't mount dead center. They were not made to be mounted there and it makes more sense to go back a centimeter or two. It really is all personal preference though which is a big reason why we all love this sport.
 
so basically what you're saying is that I should not have my park skis with symmetrical flex, sidecut, dimensions and build center mounted?? Seems like that goes against the design of the ski...
Henrik has been skiing the ARV, which is a non symmetrical ski. So i understand why it isn't center mounted. But for a ski like the Amplid Provoke, Line TC or Afterbang that is designed to be center mounted I think that it makes sense to center mount them. Just my opinion.
 
I'd be interested in hearing a source on this...

And are you saying I should mount my symmetrical park skis at -2? Cause that doesn't make sense to me. Also, if people were starting to mount further back again, wouldn't there be less symmetrical skis as aposed to the more that are currently being produced?

Yes, mounting an directional ski at center does impact the skis ability, however, the idea behind center mounting is for more balance and lower swing weight. I don't see how mounting further back changes how I'm balance over the center of the ski. If you maintain a "proper" stance or "athletic" stance while skiing, yes, your knees are forward, but your center mass (waist, chest, shoulders) are over the mid-sole of your boot...then again maybe you're on to something with Henrik's stance...
 
So what you mean to say was skis like the Thall, Chronic, ARV etc. that are not symmetrical skis should not be mounted center? Because I totally agree with that.
Not trying to be a douche, just trying to clarify.
 
Henrik's stance, from what I've seen, is super hunched over and forward, calling for the extra cm's. But for an average skier with a conventional stance, center is super effective.
 
Also for the average skier who can actually ski instead of backseat the whole time will benefit more for 2 cm back with a non symmetrical ski
 
Mounting your skis 1-2 cm's back won't do shit. I'm with El_Barto. OP please inform me how 1-2 cm's would effect anything? Nothing wrong with this:

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So long as you can prove the logic is sharper than a marble.
 
Shouldn't you mount it in the middle of the sidecut? As in, the narrowest part of the ski? Because isn't that where it's designed to be mounted and designed to turn best at?

Also, I want to know how you know that these various pros are mounting back from center.
 
WTF? in your first post you say that one barely feels a difference, now you say it completely changes the way a ski feels. and the reason clayton and casabon dont ride center is because they have non symetrical park skis. why dont you tell that to jossi or hatveit? dont they know where to mount their skis? probably the reason they ski so bad...
 
so your recommending us, that non symetrical skis should not be mounted at center? no shit... well why do you think the companys recommended mounting line for non symmetrical skis is not the true center? how is that something new?
 
Most "park rats" don't ski with good technique, so it's not such a big deal being centred or -1. Binding and boot ramp has more to do with it. Also consider that the tail is lower than the tip on most skis so cord centre is actually forward of the centre of the running length.

-0.5 or -1 back of the centre of the running length is about right on a traditional camber park ski I think.
 
Obviously if you have a non-symmetrical ski and you want to ski a bunch of all mountain then mount a bit back. That gives you more ski to drive and puts your weight over the center of the sidecut.

But most people tend to mount center because they prioritize the park performance over the carving/skiing performance. Mounting center gives you the least swingweight and the most balanced ski on rails. That's why people do it and if that is their reasoning then they should continue to do so.

In general I think a lot of people who get on their high horse about center mounting ruining performance are frequently less good skiers than the 'park rats' they are accusing. Sure there are plenty of park skiers who have horrible technique but there are a lot more recreational skiers on traditionally mounted skis that are much worse. It's not the ski that makes the skier.
 
Seriously, I'm on center mounted Rossi Scratches which I previously had at -1. They carved a tiny bit better at -1, but like the difference was so negligible. Being farther back did put me in a better stance, I could drive my skis from the boot tongue a lot more, but nothing I wasn't able to compensate for when mounted center. I can still rail them and I actually prefer a centered ski in bumps, I find them quicker. On rails and skiing switch center was better. On any full camber park/frontside ski I'll most likely mount center regardless of dimensions; rocker is completely different though, IE halo's only have tip rocker and need to be mounted back to compensate.

For the record I believe most pipe skiers ski a bit back at like -1/-2, better stance and more edge grip; But if your complaining about not being able to 'ski' a centered ski go take some lessons.
 
I have 2009 Chronic cryptonites and was thinking about getting them center mounted. Never ridden a CM ski before..
 
OP what are you talking about? Please clarify yourself by stating everyone needs to mount 2cm back from center
 
Uh, been skiing for 20+ years, riding center mounted non-symmetrical park skis for 8 years. I've been doin just fine.
 
I could care less if the skis are symmetrical or not I like my bindings mounted center. It's all personal preference. Don't tell people how they should mount there ski.
 
if you say I can't feel a difference between center and -2, then I can't feel a difference between -2 and center

and therefore I shall take the option which reduces swing weight and centers my balance on rails

thanks for your advice, very wise
 
It's subjective, I went from 1.5cm back to center and symmetrical and never want to go back, who cares how others ski.
 
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