Does skiing have the highest number of underground riders that arent pro that should be

theoz

theoz

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so I was wondering if you thought skiing has the highest number of underground riders that arent pro that should be pro per capita than other sports.

ie i can think of at least 6 guys who are better than alot of pros and that should be on big contracts but dont get shit casue ski companies are stingy.

garret russel, jeff thomas, james hillier, Bernie Rosewow , cory zila, benny ryerson, Jhohan kristofers to name a few..

is this a ski thing or do you think it happens in other sports
 
Being pro doesn't always have to do with if one skier is better than someone who is a pro, doesn't exactly mean they should be pro. Most "pro" skiers do comps and do WELL in them or win them, i guess it depends on what you think a pro is.
 
yea, and the reason is that the industry supporting freeskiing isn't big enough to support those kids.
 
I think skiing has more underground riders than snowboarding, because if you go to any given hill there will be that one amazing group of skiers that you've never seen or heard of and they just rip, while there might be only a couple of good snowboarders who may or may not be sponsored already.
 
WHat about like skateboarding. So many more people skate board. Im sure there are tons of sick sick am skaters who dont get shit
 
I'd say skating/skiing/rollerblading/surfing are all pretty much on the same plane. So many pro snowboarders than skiers IMO.
 
Yeah man, even the top level skate pros don't get shit. Rock climbing/Bouldering is like that too... by buddy was amazing and all he ever got was shoes and chalk.

There's plenty of sports out there where people who excel don't get shit. There's also plenty of people who everyone thinks are better than the pros in our sport, but who actually aren't consistent enough if you threw them in the REAL pro game.

Its much harder than it looks in the movies...

I think skiing has its fair share, but I'm sure its no different than any other sport.

 
i think pro skaters are starting to get a lot more recognition tho cause skating has become such a money maker like pro skaters are starting to get a lot better and bigger sponsors and shit but then alot of em get accused of selling out lol
 
totally agree.

All those people out there who arent sponsored are no doubt really good. But it kinda takes something more than really good to go pro. YOu have to know the people, you have to be someone with a unique attitude, and you have to be banger 100% of the time you know? I think everyone gets to the level they deserve.
 
I think snowboarding has way more then skiing does. There are tons of really good boarders all over, but not many skiers.
 
I would say there are TONS of skiers who could go pro, but can't since there aren't really that many grass root companies that will front them. Look at snowboarding, every tom dick who can throw down a 360 can get spamcered. This is because snowboarding has indie companies for everything from bags, to wax, bindings, boards, and even boots. Like most ski sales still come from the big shots ( salomon, Rossi, dynastar, etc). Many of those companies have grassroot teams that are LOADED with tallent, not to mention the kids who have hook ups in the company.

Now your best bet to go pro is to find a SUPER small up and coming company and show your stuff to them ( movement, faction,etc). Then to take a major comp after.
 
theres what, a hundred thousand people on ns.. sure there is a handful that could be pro... look at skateboarding, you have people all over the planet that could be pro. theres a much larger pro margin for skatng. so many sick kids.
 
if you open up the debate to mainstream sports, its the same deal. how many pro basketball players are there? 150-200? how many awesome bball players are there? i'm sure many more than however many good skiers there are.
 
there are a shit load that might be able to. but the thing is, you gotta be able to do good in comps every time, and stick that huge trick in the BC cause you only get one shot at it and so on. it takes more than being good though your attitude, marketing abilities and so on are what are looked into if you wanna be sponsistorcized by a big time company...
 
it takes the want to be a pro as well. I mean, the game is more then just a day skiing with your friends...

i donno, the love of skiing is a powerful thing, much more powerful then some of the shit that comes along when you get into the indusrty.
 
no way. do you know how many kids skateboard? or snowboard? almost every action sport has a shit load of rippers who aren't recognized.
 
i swear this is the 100th time i've heard you hype these same people. let it go, they all slay and will continue to slay until people are on their nuts as much as you are.
 
skating has alot of sick ams. idk theres alot of great skiers and boarders who can ride with the pros but i think skating takes the crown for this
 
BIKING. the end. I know tons of kids who could be sponsored. And i know kids who kill and are sponsored. At my local bike hill i ride with 2 that should be spnacerozied pretty much every day.
 
Uh, no.

It just seems like it because it's such a small community and the difference between a pro and an am/unsigned athlete is consistency and innovation, and the gap doesn't seem that small alot of the time.
 
That's not true at all. I lived at Squaw for years, and the vast majority of the people throwing down hard on the mountain were skiers. That may or may not be true in the park, but I see far more guys on skis who kill it on the mountain then on boards. There might well be more good boarders in the park, I don't know.
 
What good snowboarding jibbers that want to make a career for themselves go to squaw to make it though?

That's like using your home mountain to base your opinion. Sure there might be a group of kids that have been skiing for so long that they have no reason to not be good, and there may be a ton of shitty snowboarders, but in the high levels of both sports snowboarding in my opinion has much more ignored talent.
 
i no surfing has aton of kids around the world that cant afford to enter comps and stuff so theyre not heard of. skating and skiing are probably higher though
 
there are definitly alot of underground skiers who rip, but i would say skating has way more kids who arent sponsauritized, like these young-ass heshers who can kickflip 10 stairs. little bastards
 
except there is no draft in skiing. basketball signs a certain amount per year, and a certain amount leave. everyone gets their chance, and if you blow it your done in most circumstances. and theres the college age limit in which you can enter, unless you skip college ball and go straight to pro.

theres none of that in skiing. if your 10 or 20 you can go pro. think about it.
 
all board sports or sports insspired by it (skating, skiing, surfing, snowboarding, rollerblading, bmxing etc) is bound to have a whole bunch of nasty riders who dont get widespread recognition. they are all sports that are about doing your own thing and having fun! they are anti competition sports even though comps are a huge driving force they are completley against competition against others. my favourite riders are nasty and are not and will never be sponsered. FUCK COMPS!
 
all board sports or sports insspired by it (skating, skiing, surfing, snowboarding, rollerblading, bmxing etc) is bound to have a whole bunch of nasty riders who dont get widespread recognition. they are all sports that are about doing your own thing and having fun! they are anti competition sports even though comps are a huge driving force they are completley against competition against others. my favourite riders are nasty and are not and will never be sponsered. FUCK COMPS!
 
every mountains different, big white has 3 or 4 pro snowboarders and 2 or 3 boarders that will go pro but not many skiers. Silver Star which is pretty close to big white on the other hand, has a wack of pro skiers but not really any snowboarders. different resorts have people that are good, but they arent necesarily trying to go pro, there just enjoying skiing
 
We still do not have any clear definition of what constitutes an Am or a Pro, or when an Am becomes a Pro. Fixing this might do a bit to help the younger kids come up. Look at Pep Fujas article in an old Skeeze for a good viewpoint.
 
eh im not to worried about the difference. i figure if i ever get good enough to even have the thought "i wonder if i could be a pro at this" ill worry about it. cause im pretty hard on myself and think i suck at shit when i could be good.....
 
You guys are fucking idiots.

The only reason you think that there are more underground "pro's" than any other sport is because this is the only one you pay attention to.

Skate, Surf, Bike, Kayak, Wakeboard, Climbing.

Go think outside the box.
 
regardless of what sport your looking at, you don't get sponsored out of a bubble... there are so many people out there that are good enough at their respective sports to be sponsored or go pro, but its never going to happen unless they make themselves known. This applies to any sport, not just action sports... My cousin is 19, hes 6'7" lefty, and throws a baseball 91 consistently. He has good placement and has a really good change up. But hes a retard and thinks that he is going to get drafted purely because he is a 6'7" lefty pitcher... but its never going to happen because no one knows he exists because he doesn't put his name out there.

If your a nasty skier, or boarder, or skater, or anything else you have to want to be sponsered... you have to find reps who can hook you up. They arent going to know you exist by word of mouth alone... unless your like Pep and you ride around with Tanner and Tanner starts saying your the next big thing... but seeing as that most people dont ski with Tanner... that isnt going to happen.
 
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