Dianne feinstein/anti gun activists.

[toastyteenagers]

I'm a fan of guns.

maybe we should make people take like 3- 1 hour classes on gun safety before we hand them a gun.

Maybe tighten up background checks too.

 

[PacificRimJob]

Just wanted to share a really shitty pic I made for some other folks who really don't like this witchView attachment 727686

That makes her look like a gun whoring pilgrim cooking up some skittles.

 

[japanada]

80% lowers FTW! Build what you want and stay off the books.

 

[SFB]

Just wanted to share a really shitty pic I made for some other folks who really don't like this witchView attachment 727686

i chuckled

 

[Culture+]

fucking stuck up liberals

here is my 2 cents

If you don't want a gun. fine. but if you think taking away guns regardless of type. shove it up your ass. guns are a part of american society and a baseline from the Constitution. taking away guns don't solve shit you shit-for-brains liberals .

AT THE VERY LEAST

learn about guns and how they operate before you open mouth about any Regulations or Bans

Ima keep my AR in the back of my jeep Because i fucking can

#realtalk

and im not even a republican, this shit just gets me heated

 

[PacificRimJob]

If you don't want a gun. fine. but if you think taking away guns regardless of type. shove it up your ass.

Literally nobody is really saying this...

Assault weapons and handgun bans are the only real gun control that gets enacted. Your sweet hunting rifle is ultra safe.

 

[PASKIINGSUCKS]

Literally nobody is really saying this...

Assault weapons and handgun bans are the only real gun control that gets enacted. Your sweet hunting rifle is ultra safe.

Agreed. Anyone for or against guns that thinks the government is gonna take our guns away is just foolish. Never happen in this country. Not that I give a shit, I'd eventually like to own a handgun for hunting or fun shooting but other than that my guns are hunting guns and will never be taken away or banned.

 

[iH8pow]

Literally nobody is really saying this...

Assault weapons and handgun bans are the only real gun control that gets enacted. Your sweet hunting rifle is ultra safe.

good, cause my "hunting rifle" can cut a man in half from a mile away

 

[SamtheEagle]

I gotta say it took me purchasing a firearm to realize how increadibly easy it is to purchase a firearm. At the very least can we have a waiting period.... I know statistically it wouldn't do much but at least it makes someone consider purchasing a firearm and not do it in the heat of the moment. I know most gun deaths aren't from a heat of the moment purchase of a gun but its better than nothing.

 

[PacificRimJob]

good, cause my "hunting rifle" can cut a man in half from a mile away

I gotta say it took me purchasing a firearm to realize how increadibly easy it is to purchase a firearm. At the very least can we have a waiting period.... I know statistically it wouldn't do much but at least it makes someone consider purchasing a firearm and not do it in the heat of the moment. I know most gun deaths aren't from a heat of the moment purchase of a gun but its better than nothing.

Yeah, simply put, gun control activists don't really want to take away guns as much as put checks on people purchasing them. NRA twats are fully embedded with the weapons manufacturers, and use bullshit Red Dawn fear tactics like "pretty soon they'll take away all of our guns, then come storming into your front door and haul you off to the gulags".

...they think of guns almost as a nuclear deterrent. "as long as we have them, they won't come for us - mutually assured destruction, and all that"

 

[SamtheEagle]

good, cause my "hunting rifle" can cut a man in half from a mile away

Yeah, simply put, gun control activists don't really want to take away guns as much as put checks on people purchasing them. NRA twats are fully embedded with the weapons manufacturers, and use bullshit Red Dawn fear tactics like "pretty soon they'll take away all of our guns, then come storming into your front door and haul you off to the gulags".

...they think of guns almost as a nuclear deterrent. "as long as we have them, they won't come for us - mutually assured destruction, and all that"

I'd agree. I have no problem making them harder to get. Perfect example is Australia. They had like 7 mass shootings (more than 2 people shot) in the 10 years leading up to their gun control reform and like 1 in the 10 years since. Those numbers are not perfectly accurate since I don't remember precisely. My favorite part of their gun control is as simple as forcing anyone who purchases a gun to give a reason. Simple yet I think would be a huge deterrent for a lot of people. Once again it doesn't really stop anyone from getting one but is an extra step where some of the bad people who are legally buying firearms might have been stopped.

 

[Dolan.Escobar]

In switzerland, a model society, guns are not only allowed, they are required for citizens to own. Whats their violent crime rate? Virtually zero.

The problem in america isnt the guns. Dumb people tend to be more violent than intelligent people. If gun owners had to take an iq test before buying a gun, violent crime would hit the floor

 

[deleted5]

In switzerland, a model society, guns are not only allowed, they are required for citizens to own. Whats their violent crime rate? Virtually zero.

The problem in america isnt the guns. Dumb people tend to be more violent than intelligent people. If gun owners had to take an iq test before buying a gun, violent crime would hit the floor

yeah people with military training, in Florida you can literally buy a gun at a garage sale with no paperwork. most people want that to be illegal, you can have the gun you just have to acquire it with a little more looking into the person.

 

[PacificRimJob]

I'd agree. I have no problem making them harder to get. Perfect example is Australia. They had like 7 mass shootings (more than 2 people shot) in the 10 years leading up to their gun control reform and like 1 in the 10 years since. Those numbers are not perfectly accurate since I don't remember precisely. My favorite part of their gun control is as simple as forcing anyone who purchases a gun to give a reason. Simple yet I think would be a huge deterrent for a lot of people. Once again it doesn't really stop anyone from getting one but is an extra step where some of the bad people who are legally buying firearms might have been stopped.

Even if you need a reason, everyone's just going to always claim protection... I mean, even in Breaking Bad, homie buys an illegal revolver under the guise of protection... (yes, I know, it's a show, but still)

In my perfect world, this would be the thing.

-Hunting rifles, shotguns, and non semi-automatic weapons will have about the same amount of control they have now. The gun-show loophole will be closed, however.

Semi automatic rifles and Handguns will need a license to own - similar to concealed carry. Any unlicensed firearm will be treated like if they found you with some illegal drugs. Any illegal firearm will be treated like you have a lot of illegal drugs. Expanded magazines and other shit that increases the lethal nature of a weapon will require weapons safety certifications and shit.

...Treat it like cars. Yeah, getting your basic license to drive a car is easy, but if you're driving a truck or something more serious (and dangerous) you need additional examinations, and it takes longer to get your certs. If you're going to use such weapons for protection, it should be documented.

Yeah, I get it... Red Dawn. The commies will look on the list and see who has weapons, and intern them first? That shit ain't happening. It never happened. It won't happen. Get over it. If somehow I'm hilariously wrong and all else fails, fine - storm the Bastille, right?

I understand there are plenty of guns out there that are illegal and circulating and stuff... why not transfer this war on drugs funding and bullshit to a war on illegal guns that are legitimately intended to maim and kill people? Sounds a lot more productive than going after peaceful potheads.

 

[howlongcanausern]

In switzerland, a model society, guns are not only allowed, they are required for citizens to own. Whats their violent crime rate? Virtually zero.

The problem in america isnt the guns. Dumb people tend to be more violent than intelligent people. If gun owners had to take an iq test before buying a gun, violent crime would hit the floor

switzerland is 94% educated white people.

not true?

 

[PacificRimJob]

switzerland is 94% educated white people.

not true?

Switzerland is also like the most civilized country in the world. Even if they rob you they are somehow nice about it. They're extremely non-violent and they haven't even been involved in a war in god.. ever?

 

[SamtheEagle]

Even if you need a reason, everyone's just going to always claim protection... I mean, even in Breaking Bad, homie buys an illegal revolver under the guise of protection... (yes, I know, it's a show, but still)

In my perfect world, this would be the thing.

-Hunting rifles, shotguns, and non semi-automatic weapons will have about the same amount of control they have now. The gun-show loophole will be closed, however.

Semi automatic rifles and Handguns will need a license to own - similar to concealed carry. Any unlicensed firearm will be treated like if they found you with some illegal drugs. Any illegal firearm will be treated like you have a lot of illegal drugs. Expanded magazines and other shit that increases the lethal nature of a weapon will require weapons safety certifications and shit.

...Treat it like cars. Yeah, getting your basic license to drive a car is easy, but if you're driving a truck or something more serious (and dangerous) you need additional examinations, and it takes longer to get your certs. If you're going to use such weapons for protection, it should be documented.

Yeah, I get it... Red Dawn. The commies will look on the list and see who has weapons, and intern them first? That shit ain't happening. It never happened. It won't happen. Get over it. If somehow I'm hilariously wrong and all else fails, fine - storm the Bastille, right?

I understand there are plenty of guns out there that are illegal and circulating and stuff... why not transfer this war on drugs funding and bullshit to a war on illegal guns that are legitimately intended to maim and kill people? Sounds a lot more productive than going after peaceful potheads.

In Australia protection or home defense are not valid reasons. Only things like hunting are

 

[PacificRimJob]

In Australia protection or home defense are not valid reasons. Only things like hunting are

Lol. Yeah, but again. Australia isn't the USA. There's no way Protection doesn't go in there as a valid reason.

 

[AT-AT]

If people want to cause harm they will. They don't need a gun to do so. In america, more people are killed with the use of a knife, than by a shotgun and rifle combined.
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/uc...s.-2011/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-8

If you really wanted to do damage you go into you local hardware store and buy a bag of fertilizer.

 

[deleted5]

If people want to cause harm they will. They don't need a gun to do so. In america, more people are killed with the use of a knife, than by a shotgun and rifle combined.
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/uc...s.-2011/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-8

If you really wanted to do damage you go into you local hardware store and buy a bag of fertilizer.

cool fallacy man.

 

[Gods_Father]

cool fallacy man.

stats are a fallacy? you usually love using stats to justify your stance on gun ownership, why are the stats he posted any different from the stats you use? oh, b/c they don't align with your mentality.

 

[PacificRimJob]

It's a fallacy because it's irrelevant what causes more deaths... Heart attacks and cancer also cause more deaths. Are you going to say we should make heart attacks illegal? That's about how ridiculous it is to use that fallacy.

The fact of the matter is, guns cause death. They cause death in a way where the murderer can leave little trace, and kill from a distance (can't do that with Knives or Hammers or whatever), they cause a shitload of accidents, and if there's a way to avoid this by making it more difficult to obtain the ones that are designed without practical purposes involved, then it could potentially stem the ease of a killer from getting their hands on one.

If you really want me to play with the fallacy, however... You can't snipe someone with a knife. You can snipe someone with a scope mounted on an AR15, though. I'd argue that a guy with a semi automatic and a scope mounted and a shitload of bullets has the ability to cause way more harm than a guy with a knife.

 

[Gods_Father]

It's a fallacy because it's irrelevant what causes more deaths... Heart attacks and cancer also cause more deaths. Are you going to say we should make heart attacks illegal? That's about how ridiculous it is to use that fallacy.

The fact of the matter is, guns cause death. They cause death in a way where the murderer can leave little trace, and kill from a distance (can't do that with Knives or Hammers or whatever), they cause a shitload of accidents, and if there's a way to avoid this by making it more difficult to obtain the ones that are designed without practical purposes involved, then it could potentially stem the ease of a killer from getting their hands on one.

If you really want me to play with the fallacy, however... You can't snipe someone with a knife. You can snipe someone with a scope mounted on an AR15, though. I'd argue that a guy with a semi automatic and a scope mounted and a shitload of bullets has the ability to cause way more harm than a guy with a knife.

ok thanks, that would make zzzz a hypocrite because he uses the exact same fallacy when he posts stats to defend his stance on gun ownership lol.

 

[PacificRimJob]

ok thanks, that would make zzzz a hypocrite because he uses the exact same fallacy when he posts stats to defend his stance on gun ownership lol.

Not sure what you're referencing, but zzzzz has never been one to make his case very well.

 

[PASKIINGSUCKS]

It really doesn't even matter guys. In 10 years anyone will be able to sit at home and 3d print any gun they want and there will be no tracing it whatsoever.

Kidding, but not really kidding.

 

[PacificRimJob]

It really doesn't even matter guys. In 10 years anyone will be able to sit at home and 3d print any gun they want and there will be no tracing it whatsoever.

Kidding, but not really kidding.

I can't wait to print out a Saturn 5 rocket and launch your mom to the moon.

 

[deleted5]

stats are a fallacy? you usually love using stats to justify your stance on gun ownership, why are the stats he posted any different from the stats you use? oh, b/c they don't align with your mentality.

On two kinds of guns yeah, ok let's only see the use of machetes and triangle blades used in murders o no its even lower than the two kinds of guns your talking about, because there not legal to own by your logic let's ban everything because of my one sided statistic. See how that's flawed? We should not ban guns just not make it leagle to buy them with almost no paperwork, again in Florida you can buy them in a garage sale with no paper work. Make sure people are responsible enough to have them because people are the problem. Not really sure how you can argue against that point.

 

[Jeebus.]

pic in OP didnt work, here it is

She just loves to paint the picture that everyone is as ignorant about guns as she is.

 

[AT-AT]

On two kinds of guns yeah, ok let's only see the use of machetes and triangle blades used in murders o no its even lower than the two kinds of guns your talking about, because there not legal to own by your logic let's ban everything because of my one sided statistic. See how that's flawed? We should not ban guns just not make it leagle to buy them with almost no paperwork, again in Florida you can buy them in a garage sale with no paper work. Make sure people are responsible enough to have them because people are the problem. Not really sure how you can argue against that point.

If you are referencing my post, you must not have looked at the link. It's from the FBI, and it uses all weapon types used in homicides, not just guns.

Even death by Fist, Hand, Feet etc. are responsible for more homocides than rifles or shotguns.

 

[PacificRimJob]

She just loves to paint the picture that everyone is as ignorant about guns as she is.

I mean, how she got an AK with a 150 rnd drum is beyond me... and it's so obviously not loaded.

but still.. I doubt she's ignorant about guns so much as being cherrypicked here. She's an old fogey as far as senators go, but she's probably more along the lines of what I'm saying than anything...

 

[Jeebus.]

I mean, how she got an AK with a 150 rnd drum is beyond me... and it's so obviously not loaded.

but still.. I doubt she's ignorant about guns so much as being cherrypicked here. She's an old fogey as far as senators go, but she's probably more along the lines of what I'm saying than anything...

Cant get a compromise for a gun law so just hop on the extremists side, Seems pretty smart. OP just warned us about people like you.

 

[PacificRimJob]

Cant get a compromise for a gun law so just hop on the extremists side, Seems pretty smart. OP just warned us about people like you.

Lol Extremist? Did you read anything that I just said in this thread?

I'd hardly call me an extremist at all... Hell, I wouldn't even call Feinstein one. Someone like Bernie Sanders, maybe... but then again he's bantering half the time anyway and you can't take everything he's saying in it's entire literal sense.

 

[PacificRimJob]

If you are referencing my post, you must not have looked at the link. It's from the FBI, and it uses all weapon types used in homicides, not just guns.

Even death by Fist, Hand, Feet etc. are responsible for more homocides than rifles or shotguns.

And that doesn't fucking matter... because how many knives, fists, hammers and wrist watches have been responsible for deaths at more than 50 feet? That's the point. You can't compare Guns to Fists and Knives. You can't punch someone through the skull. Hell, you would find it pretty difficult to stab someone through the skull... but a gun? no problem, bud.

Guns are effective as fuck at killing. Whey they are used, they are almost always going to lead to a death or some sort of serious injury. You can get in all the fist fights you want, chances are pretty low you're going to die from one in comparison to a gun dual...

 

[deleted5]

If you are referencing my post, you must not have looked at the link. It's from the FBI, and it uses all weapon types used in homicides, not just guns.

Even death by Fist, Hand, Feet etc. are responsible for more homocides than rifles or shotguns.

Re read my post you completely missed what I said.

 

[PASKIINGSUCKS]

I can't wait to print out a Saturn 5 rocket and launch your mom to the moon.

Wait what?? Can't tell if you're seriously upset with me here over that comment or just goofing off ha.

In any case, anyone who thinks this technology isn't on the way is fooling themselves.

I mean hell, right now if you know where to look and put your mind to it you can buy metal bending jigs, all moving parts, and plans to manufacture your own fully auto ak-47 and build it in your basement. It's not even that expensive or time consuming. I mean we aren't talking about space travel here, it's moving parts and springs and wood for christ's sake.

 

[PacificRimJob]

Wait what?? Can't tell if you're seriously upset with me here over that comment or just goofing off ha.

...yes. I'm serious about blasting your mom to the moon with my Saturn 5 rocket.

 

[PASKIINGSUCKS]

...yes. I'm serious about blasting your mom to the moon with my Saturn 5 rocket.

Ok ok, wasn't sure, it's hard to tell with that serious Dingo mask on in your Icon.

 

[californiagrown]

Honsestly, anyone who agrees with OP is either

A) Ignorant as Fuck

B) Sheltered as Fuck

C) Stupid as Fuck

D) Evil as Fuck

Have you seen what america is comprised of? People suck.

There are a ton of ways to make the situation better. Severley limit the amount of ammo you can buy per year. Like literally 6 bullets/shells per year. Oh you go hunting more than that? get more accurate. Make the ammo super expensive like $25 per bullet/shell. Want to hunt more than that? great, prove that you have gone hunting enough in the pat 5 years to warrant the amount of ammo you are buying.

You want home protection? give people bean bag guns. hitting someone at point blank range with one of those bad boys will put them the fuck down quick...but its tough to kill people with one of those.

The government should start a program that pays $2000+ for each assault weapon and handgun that gets turned in. Make it extremely profitable for the 'hood to turn in their guns. make it worth their while.

If you ever have the need to go to war with the US government, guess what? you already lost fucker! your chance to stop them, and change the course of history was 20 years prior when policies began to be enacted by the folks voted into office.

Fucking ignorant, stupid people with beliefs that they haven't reflected upon and questioned since they were instilled by their parents fucking suck.

 

[PacificRimJob]

Honsestly, anyone who agrees with OP is either

A) Ignorant as Fuck

B) Sheltered as Fuck

C) Stupid as Fuck

D) Evil as Fuck

You forgot one.. White as fuck

 

[SFB]

Honsestly, anyone who agrees with OP is either

A) Ignorant as Fuck

B) Sheltered as Fuck

C) Stupid as Fuck

D) Evil as Fuck

Have you seen what america is comprised of? People suck.

There are a ton of ways to make the situation better. Severley limit the amount of ammo you can buy per year. Like literally 6 bullets/shells per year. Oh you go hunting more than that? get more accurate. Make the ammo super expensive like $25 per bullet/shell. Want to hunt more than that? great, prove that you have gone hunting enough in the pat 5 years to warrant the amount of ammo you are buying.

You want home protection? give people bean bag guns. hitting someone at point blank range with one of those bad boys will put them the fuck down quick...but its tough to kill people with one of those.

The government should start a program that pays $2000+ for each assault weapon and handgun that gets turned in. Make it extremely profitable for the 'hood to turn in their guns. make it worth their while.

If you ever have the need to go to war with the US government, guess what? you already lost fucker! your chance to stop them, and change the course of history was 20 years prior when policies began to be enacted by the folks voted into office.

Fucking ignorant, stupid people with beliefs that they haven't reflected upon and questioned since they were instilled by their parents fucking suck.

that was some of the dumbest shit i have ever read. protect yourself with beanbag guns? your fucking kidding right? people like you who act like government sheep and dont give a fuck about having rights and being able to protect yourself are whats wrong with america. your opinion has been discarded

 

[californiagrown]

that was some of the dumbest shit i have ever read. protect yourself with beanbag guns? your fucking kidding right? people like you who act like government sheep and dont give a fuck about having rights and being able to protect yourself are whats wrong with america. your opinion has been discarded

The stupid as fuck, ignorant part of america that hasnt reflected upon or challenged their beliefs since they were instilled by their parents and sheltered community of their youth, is who YOU belong to.

You are the problem with america, and by default the world.

Its pretty shitty that you take pride in being jingoistic, and close minded.

 

[PASKIINGSUCKS]

Honsestly, anyone who agrees with OP is either

A) Ignorant as Fuck

B) Sheltered as Fuck

C) Stupid as Fuck

D) Evil as Fuck

Have you seen what america is comprised of? People suck.

There are a ton of ways to make the situation better. Severley limit the amount of ammo you can buy per year. Like literally 6 bullets/shells per year. Oh you go hunting more than that? get more accurate. Make the ammo super expensive like $25 per bullet/shell. Want to hunt more than that? great, prove that you have gone hunting enough in the pat 5 years to warrant the amount of ammo you are buying.

You want home protection? give people bean bag guns. hitting someone at point blank range with one of those bad boys will put them the fuck down quick...but its tough to kill people with one of those.

The government should start a program that pays $2000+ for each assault weapon and handgun that gets turned in. Make it extremely profitable for the 'hood to turn in their guns. make it worth their while.

If you ever have the need to go to war with the US government, guess what? you already lost fucker! your chance to stop them, and change the course of history was 20 years prior when policies began to be enacted by the folks voted into office.

Fucking ignorant, stupid people with beliefs that they haven't reflected upon and questioned since they were instilled by their parents fucking suck.

You're trolling right??

I'm gonna just assume you don't hunt because there is so much wrong with your first paragraph it is laughable. Yes let's make it hard for average folk to fill their freezer with cheap wild game that is both nutritious and big industry hormone and chemical free(for the most part anyway). Let's just simply use Doves as an example, since Dingo mentioned bacon wrapped dove the other day and I'm still drooling. As a pennsylvanian I can go by my migratory bird license and bag 15 dove per day if I want. That's way more than 6 shells even assuming I'm a perfect shot like you say everyone should be, I'd bet my life you can't down every single dove flying 100 feet over your head while sitting in a field.

Your second paragraph I actually agree with believe it or not. My home defense shotgun is loaded with non kill rubber buckshot right at this moment and I wouldn't hesitate one ounce to put an intruder with a weapon flat on his ass with it.

I like your third paragraph too, but your bucks are a little low, 5,000 might get people turning in guns a little faster.

I'm not even gonna comment on your last pointed paragraph.

Unlike you I actually appreciate the pro gun pro hunting traditions and values I was taught by my parents and grandparents and I enjoy the adventures I have been on and the experiences I have had in the woods and field because of it.

Just out of curiosity, do you hunt Mr. CaliforniaGrown?

 

[Casey]

In the state of Washington the seller of a gun in a private sale has no responsibility or liability to know who they are selling to. Felon, crazy, terrorist, doesn't matter. I don't think people should be getting in trouble for shit someone else does with a gun that they used to own, but having no rules or requirements of who and how you can sell firearms is just stupid. But you say that and people go crazy and the NRA shows up in a paranoid frenzy with their million dollar political campaigns.

 

[PacificRimJob]

that was some of the dumbest shit i have ever read. protect yourself with beanbag guns? your fucking kidding right? people like you who act like government sheep and dont give a fuck about having rights and being able to protect yourself are whats wrong with america. your opinion has been discarded

First of all, Penn would kick your ass for using his photo there.

Second of all, do you need to KILL someone to protect yourself? A bean bag or pepper spray or other non-lethal methods are perfectly capable of protecting someone. Hell, if you want to be a real badass, learn fucking karate so you can disarm someone with your bare hands.

You know how all Gun Toting rednecks love Chuck Norris? Yeah, well they forget homie doesn't need a gun and almost never used one even as Walker Texas Ranger. He also didn't kill people when he was under threat, he just made them a silly bitch, laying on their back, about to get some texas justice rammed up their ass..

Don't buy a gun. Take Karate classes, you wimpy ass bastards.

and better yet, don't even hunt with a gun, or traps. That's laaaaaame. Go fucking hunt a deer by jumping out of a tree like a ninja, or at least bowhunt the fucker to prove you have a skill (also, make your bow by hand like a real hunter, you unoriginal piece of shits)

 

[PacificRimJob]

In the state of Washington the seller of a gun in a private sale has no responsibility or liability to know who they are selling to. Felon, crazy, terrorist, doesn't matter. I don't think people should be getting in trouble for shit someone else does with a gun that they used to own, but having no rules or requirements of who and how you can sell firearms is just stupid. But you say that and people go crazy and the NRA shows up in a paranoid frenzy with their million dollar political campaigns.

There are like infinity more rules about selling someone a car (also at times considered a deadly weapon) than there are for gun transactions.

 

[AT-AT]

And that doesn't fucking matter... because how many knives, fists, hammers and wrist watches have been responsible for deaths at more than 50 feet? That's the point. You can't compare Guns to Fists and Knives. You can't punch someone through the skull. Hell, you would find it pretty difficult to stab someone through the skull... but a gun? no problem, bud.

Guns are effective as fuck at killing. Whey they are used, they are almost always going to lead to a death or some sort of serious injury. You can get in all the fist fights you want, chances are pretty low you're going to die from one in comparison to a gun dual...

Are guns more effective yes. That's not where I was going. If you are to ban guns the next reasonable thing to do is to ban knives, and then after knives are "gone", the next thing you ban is fists. That is if you are going by number of homicides committed by each.

Each law would continue to make people "safer." That is where your logic would take you. If you ban guns and it makes people safer, you would then have to ban knives because it would make people safer, and onward and onward

 

[SFB]

Are guns more effective yes. That's not where I was going. If you are to ban guns the next reasonable thing to do is to ban knives, and then after knives are "gone", the next thing you ban is fists. That is if you are going by number of homicides committed by each.

Each law would continue to make people "safer." That is where your logic would take you. If you ban guns and it makes people safer, you would then have to ban knives because it would make people safer, and onward and onward

look at the UK, first they banned guns, and now knives, and their violent crime rate is very high.

 

[californiagrown]

You're trolling right??

I'm gonna just assume you don't hunt because there is so much wrong with your first paragraph it is laughable. Yes let's make it hard for average folk to fill their freezer with cheap wild game that is both nutritious and big industry hormone and chemical free(for the most part anyway). Let's just simply use Doves as an example, since Dingo mentioned bacon wrapped dove the other day and I'm still drooling. As a pennsylvanian I can go by my migratory bird license and bag 15 dove per day if I want. That's way more than 6 shells even assuming I'm a perfect shot like you say everyone should be, I'd bet my life you can't down every single dove flying 100 feet over your head while sitting in a field.

Your second paragraph I actually agree with believe it or not. My home defense shotgun is loaded with non kill rubber buckshot right at this moment and I wouldn't hesitate one ounce to put an intruder with a weapon flat on his ass with it.

I like your third paragraph too, but your bucks are a little low, 5,000 might get people turning in guns a little faster.

I'm not even gonna comment on your last pointed paragraph.

Unlike you I actually appreciate the pro gun pro hunting traditions and values I was taught by my parents and grandparents and I enjoy the adventures I have been on and the experiences I have had in the woods and field because of it.

Just out of curiosity, do you hunt Mr. CaliforniaGrown?

People don't hunt for food. They hunt for the enjoyment of the hunt. similar to fishing. don't fucking even try to say different. you know its true. The meat you get from it is just a bonus...with very, very few exceptions.

I dont hunt. i have been hunting on a couple of occasions and was raised around the outdoors, and have 3 very close friends who are avid hunters. But no, i wouldnt say i hunt.

So, you are saying that the large number of bullets you were able to buy were the reason for great memories you created with your grandparents, and the love of the outdoors you cultivated? No. It was the adventure and time spent together, not the split second of shooting the gun.

Traditions and long held values are not inherently good. And in this case they are remnants of a looooong bygone era where people HAD to hunt for their food, and HAD to use guns to protect themselves.

 

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People don't hunt for food. They hunt for the enjoyment of the hunt. similar to fishing. don't fucking even try to say different. you know its true. The meat you get from it is just a bonus...with very, very few exceptions.

I dont hunt. i have been hunting on a couple of occasions and was raised around the outdoors, and have 3 very close friends who are avid hunters. But no, i wouldnt say i hunt.

So, you are saying that the large number of bullets you were able to buy were the reason for great memories you created with your grandparents, and the love of the outdoors you cultivated? No. It was the adventure and time spent together, not the split second of shooting the gun.

Traditions and long held values are not inherently good. And in this case they are remnants of a looooong bygone era where people HAD to hunt for their food, and HAD to use guns to protect themselves.

 

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look at the UK, first they banned guns, and now knives, and their violent crime rate is very high.

Yeah no shit if you ban guns people are going to use other things. Guns were banned and I got hit with a baseball bat instead of getting shot, see banning guns dosen't work. Would you rather have a high chance of getting assulted or stabed or getting shot. I never understood that argument there murder rate is still lower than ours.