DEA forgets student in cell he has to drink his own piss and do meth to stay alive

Obviously, anyone who doesn't acknowledge that is a moron. The question is not if hard drugs are bad news, it's should we outlaw them and lock users in jail, or should we decriminalize them and treat drug addiction like the medical problem it is? I suggest the latter.
 
Idk man, what about the next generation? Imagine growing up in an environment where hard drugs are not frowned upon and are as easy to get as cigarettes or alcohol? I mean, every group of kids out there experiments with cigs and alcohol, imagine 12 year olds just getting some meth from a corner store that doesn't check id/care at all? That would be so messed up.

Also, think of the crazy corporate power cigarette companies have, now imagine a company like that but with something FAR more addicting and dangerous, not good.
 
Perhaps jailing isn't the best option, hard drug addicts definetely need medical assistance more than anything, but those people are not easy to work with and most will not just go to rehab everyday out of their own will. Sometimes jail is the only way to assist them, but jail also sucks and sometimes unfortunate events like the OP happen, but thats just life, and there is no easy solution to the problem.
 
I think hard drugs should be decriminalized but not legal for sale. I mean alcohol is a drug that can be abused fairly heavily without to much care at all and you just blackout and wake up the next morning. Sure it can kill you but I mean unless you choke on your own vomit or literally funnel a 26er of jack(and even that won't kill some people) There going to be fine.

As far as hard drugs look at prescriptions so many people can overdose on pain medications and they are produced very scientifically in a laboratory and made to be the same strength and everything that people are arguing would be good for all the street drugs. Sure if you legalize cocaine maybe it wont be the end of the world but I mean I don't want to live in a world where an 18/21 in the states year old can go to the local Drug store and grab themselves a couple crack rocks some meth and heroin. I just think its morally wrong supplying those substances. Weed, I think should be legalized 100% for so many reasons including the fact that it being currently labeled with all these other drugs exposes people to them that would not normally go looking.

I do agree that it would make a huge hit on crime but I feel like legalizing weed would still take billions out of the black market industry.

Sparks notes, Weed can be legalized, I don't want to live in a planet with 18 year olds going to the store for crack.
 
Just because they're legalized doesn't mean they won't be "frowned upon." Cigarettes are and always have been legal, but usage has plummeted since the 50s (http://www.gallup.com/poll/109048/us-smoking-rate-still-coming-down.aspx) because knowledge has spread about how bad it is for you and it's become less socially acceptable. Smoking is fucking horrible for you, but should we make cigarettes illegal? There's already a corner store for hard drugs that doesn't ID, it's called drug dealers. Studies routinely show that kids get marijuana easier than alcohol because dealers don't ID. If you legalize the drugs and sell them in legitimate establishments that ID, there will be less demand for street dealers and therefore less opportunities for kids to buy from dealers. I don't think that there's a large number of people that are only not doing meth because it's illegal. I think that people who don't do meth will continue to not do meth if it were legal.

In holland, where pot is legal, kids smoke less pot than american kids where pot is legal.
 
put yourself in their shoes man, what the fuck would you do after 4 days of being handcuffed in a bathroom sized jail cell..you would think that its the end and you might die, you would go from any thing you can do to stay alive, to trying to end it quickly rather than slowly. You go crazy and start tripping naturally with 3 days of no water...
 
no you read it way wrong. we have no information about the meth, the white powdery substance was probably dmt and it was confiscated during the inital bust
 
Source? I did some googling and couldn't find anything indicating it was fabricated, in fact I found a few sources where the DEA admitted that they forgot about him and left him in a cell.
 
You apparently didn't read the article I posted

In the cell, the detainee told authorities he found a white powdery substance, which he took, the DEA statement said.

Later testing revealed the substance was methamphetamine.

 
lol.you first. every single post you made in this thread contributed NOTHING. I agree with most of the stuff abrotionator said because it makes sense but anyone with half a brain would realize that making drugs legal would mostly likely be the downfall of the cartels. Doesn't mean making them legal is a smart decision. Plus, he just reiterated stuff most people with half a brain would understand. Doesn't mean he "knows his shit".
 
I'll bet the meth was in his anal cavity and he happened to "stumble" upon it when he took a shit in the cell
 
Ya reallly. after a few pips of meth you'r not going to be a normal person, it's not like the guy couldn't have thought "They gotta come back some time"

All the meth he smoked/had stashed in his rectum made him forget about the long weekend so he drank his own piss cuz he's a weirdo
 
The guy was arrested on April 21st... Day after 420.

He was kept in a holding cell, SEPARATE from anyone else (not normal), which apparently was just a closed room (he was banging on the door so I'm assuming he couldn't see out, so banging on the door was his only way to communicate), that just happened to have a bag of meth sitting on the floor.

So, he was handcuffed and more or less kept in solitary for smoking marijuana. None of his story makes any sense.

This story is ridiculous, and anyone that believes it is a fucking idiot.
 
well its been reported on pretty much every major media source in the states and Canada they have interviewed the guy and he is sueing. It doesn't sound like they forgot sounds like they did it on purpose.
 
if someone wants to do meth, they are going to do meth if it's legal or illegal. making something legal will not increase the amount of drug use. the reason i don't snort cocaine is because it's fucked and i'd prefer not to be addicted, NOT because it's illegal
 
You are making the assumption that more people would do hard drugs if they were legal...I'm pretty sure after the Portugal decriminalization drug use did not go up (but I'm not bothered enough to fact check...sorry)

Do I smoke weed

Yes

Is weed illegal

Yes

Do I smoke meth

No

Is meth illegal

yes

Obviously talking about myself doesn't prove anything, but legality doesn't effect use. The people who would smoke meth when it was legal are already using it now. Same for heroin etc etc.

May be a slight raise in Marijuana, cocaine, and mdma use, but I doubt any of the other drugs would see significantly more use if they were legal.
 
You are either the single most stupid 15-22 year old ever, or the single most brilliant 27-30 year old troll.

Ok read more carefully. Spotted the improperly used "there" in place of "their." Definitely the single most stupid 15-16 year old ever.

Please cut your wrists, arms, fingertips, toes, and the space in between your digits and drown in a bathtub of lemon juice.

Is there a case for legalizing some drugs? Sure. I won't ever do them, but there is a case.

Meth? Heroin? How much of a joke are you?

I suppose that the parents who criminally neglect their kids because of their drug habits "aren't hurting anybody." I suppose the same goes for the people who get killed in wrecks when truck drivers and meth addicts finally crash while behind the wheel?

People like you are the reason this country is on a downward turn. You are completely incapable of using the amazing brain that was placed in between your ears by whatever creation or evolutionary process you choose to believe in. In your case, I suppose it's more accurate to say in between your ears which, in turn, are in between your ass cheeks.
 
Just wikid the portugal drugs laws and actually use of illegal drugs has gone up and drug related deaths are exactly the same.

Observations

There is no reliable information about drug use, injecting behaviour or addiction treatment in Portugal before 2001, when general population surveys commenced. The only information about drug use before that time was the indicators on lifetime prevalence amongst youth, collected as part of the European School Survey Project on Alcohol and Other Drugs (ESPAD).

Thorough studies on how the various efforts have been implemented have not been conducted. Thus, a causal effect between strategy efforts and these developments cannot be firmly established.[8] There are, however, statistical indicators that suggest the following correlations between the drug strategy and the following developments, from July 2001 up to 2007:

  • Increased uptake of treatment.[8]
  • Reduction in HIV diagnoses amongst drug users by 17%[13]
  • Reduction in drug related deaths, although this reduction has decreased in later years, and the number of drug related deaths is now almost on the same level as before the Drug strategy was implemented.[8][13] However, this may be accounted for by improvement in measurement practices, which includes a doubling of toxicological autopsies now being performed, meaning that more drugs related deaths are likely to be recorded.[14]
  • Reported lifetime use of illicit drugs increased from 7.8% to 12%, lifetime use of cannabis increased from 7.6% to 11.7%, cocaine from 0.9% to 1.9%, ecstasy from 0.7% to 1.3%, and heroin from 0.7% to 1.1%[13] It has been proposed that this effect may have been related to the candor of interviewees, who may have been inclined to answer more truthfully due to a reduction in the stigma associated with drug use.[14] Statistical trends in neighboring Spain and Italy during the same period also suggested an unclear relation between decriminalization and increased drug use, comparatively.[14]
  • Drug use among adolescents and "problematic" users declined.[14]
  • Drug-related criminal justice workloads decreased, while the amount of drugs seized increased in quantity.[14]
  • Decreased street value of most illicit drugs, some significantly.[14]

[edit] Legal status of cannabis in Portugal

[edit] Consumption and possession

In Portugal, recreational use of cannabis is forbidden by law; also the medicinal use is not yet officially recognized (there are a debate and some law projects in the Portuguese Parliament). Portugal signed all the UN conventions on narcotics and psychotropic to date. With the 2001 decriminalization bill, the consumer is now regarded as a patient and not as a criminal (having the amount usually used for ten days of personal use is not a punishible crime) but repression persists. One can be sent to a dissuasion committee and have a talk or must pay a fee. According to libertarian think tank the Cato Institute, illegal drug use among Portuguese teenagers declined after 2001, and 45 percent of the country's heroin addicts sought medical treatment. But critics of the policy, such as the Association for a Drug-Free Portugal, say overall consumption of drugs in the country has actually risen by 4.2 percent since 2001 and claim the benefits of decriminalization are being "over-egged."
 
Hard to say whether more people are doing drugs though, just looks like more people admit to doing drugs...But either way, that just shows that decriminalization has its ups and downs.
 
True thats what I'm saying its not so crystal clear like a lot of people in this thread are trying to make it out to be. Also if drug use is going up these people are still getting there drugs illegally through dealers which means orginized crime will actually profit more from this which is another negative
 
Lol retard. Did you miss the part about how use won't actually increase if meth and heroin were legal? That meth head who forgets his baby in the car in 100 degree heat all day will be doing it regardless of the legal status of drugs. The only difference is that if they were legal he would be able to openly seek help and won't be directly funding proper criminals.

I'll leave it at that because clearly you (and that Granite bell end) are too thick to actually understand a more expansive argument.

And LOL @ all the skeptic Google try hards. You guys are on new levels of retarded for not believing this story considering it's been published by basically every single major news network in Europe and North America. But you wouldn't know that, you only know how to Google enough porn for your next fap.
 
In Portugal where they did legalize it use went up so really there is more then one side to the story. Your post contributed absolutely nothing.
 
That actually seems believable to me, maybe someone who was in there before ditched it before they had a chance to find it on him to avoid extra charges. Do they clean those things all the time?
 
well bud I don't see whats wrong with that wikipedia article, the fact is that there isn't really any proof either way that decriminlization is actually that effective. So maybe next time actually post some knowledge rather then more useless posts
 
???????can you even read? fine we'll go with your article

  • Increased uptake of treatment.[8]

ok

  • Reduction in HIV diagnoses amongst drug users by 17%[13]



ok

  • Reduction in drug related deaths, although this reduction has

    decreased in later years, and the number of drug related deaths is now

    almost on the same level as before the Drug strategy was implemented.[8][13]

    However, this may be accounted for by improvement in measurement

    practices, which includes a doubling of toxicological autopsies now

    being performed, meaning that more drugs related deaths are likely to be

    recorded.[14]

so the amount of deaths reduces or at worst remains constant yet our detection methods are significantly better and efforts doubled. sounds like a + 1 to me. don't forget the end of drug related VIOLENCE (aka gangbangers killing each other, cops and innocents) that full legalization would bring.

  • Reported lifetime use of illicit drugs increased from 7.8% to 12%,

    lifetime use of cannabis increased from 7.6% to 11.7%, cocaine from 0.9%

    to 1.9%, ecstasy from 0.7% to 1.3%, and heroin from 0.7% to 1.1%[13]

    It has been proposed that this effect may have been related to the

    candor of interviewees    , who may have been inclined to answer more

    truthfully due to a reduction in the stigma associated with drug use.[14] Statistical trends in neighboring Spain and Italy during the same period also suggested an unclear relation between decriminalization and increased drug use, comparatively.[14]

so people are admitting their drug habits more now, there isn't an increase in use. if you really want to push it and say there is (there isn't) well those numbers are miniscule anyways.

  • Drug use among adolescents and "problematic" users declined.[14]

ok

  • Drug-related criminal justice workloads decreased, while the amount of drugs seized increased in quantity.[14]

ok

  • Decreased street value of most illicit drugs, some significantly.[14]

ok

jesus "bud", looks like you posted an article that very clearly proves the insanity of the war on drugs. did you even read what you posted?

 
you're joking, right?

yeah, cause you know, imma try meth just because it's legal now. Criminalization of drugs is like saying: hey public, you're too retarded to make decisions on your own. i get how certain people are predisposed to taking up hardcore drugs and totally fucking up their life, but if you can control the point of access (centralized locations), you can not only control the dosage, but the educational side of things. furthermore, eliminate the monopoly the drug cartels have; thus, reducing drug crimes and the backlog they have on our judicial system. in turn, allowing the police to focus their attention on the real fucked up people in the world (i.e., the rapists and the murders). btw, your last sentence is beyond ironic. oh well. too bad, so sad.
 
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