You don't need to smoke meth dumbass
HERP DERP
HERP DERP
DEA forgets student in cell he has to drink his own piss and do meth to stay alive
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You are so fucking stupid it's not even funny. I can't even say ignorant. Jesus fucking christ, haven't you ever read a book?
Holy fuck.
If drugs were legal we would have the fucking cartels. HERP DERP
Holy fuck.
If drugs were legal we would have the fucking cartels. HERP DERP
sugar~glider
Member
if he was handcuffed he could still do a lot. its pretty easy to swing your arms under your legs to bring your hand in front. then it would be pretty easy to break glasses, lay out lines, and drink your own piss.
theBearJew
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hahaha
fujarome
Active member
there's actually a lot more to rosa parks than the "just a tired old woman who didn't want to get up" story everyone knows.
it was a highly organized political move, and they'd been trying on different bus systems across the country for months before rosa finally got noticed.
it was a highly organized political move, and they'd been trying on different bus systems across the country for months before rosa finally got noticed.
DADDYlongLEGS
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Well this story is being reported through several news channels now, I wonder if it is for real? It seems like all the different media sources are doing is copy/paste-ing the same story so I'm not sure if anyone is doing any real investigation. Given the outlandish nature of some of the claims (meth in holding cell, no staff around holding cell for five days, no water, someone attempting suicide with a pair of glasses, etc.), hopefully someone is doing some fact checking.
I'm going to wager that this story is (at best) a gross exaggeration of the truth.
inb4 news media look like idiots
I'm going to wager that this story is (at best) a gross exaggeration of the truth.
inb4 news media look like idiots
howlongcanausern
Active member
it's called hyperbole.
it's ridiculous to think that racial equality for citizens is on the same moral level as recreational drug use.
of course, this won't stop entitled college kids thinking they shouldn't go to jail for breaking the law.
it's ridiculous to think that racial equality for citizens is on the same moral level as recreational drug use.
of course, this won't stop entitled college kids thinking they shouldn't go to jail for breaking the law.
Huck_Norris
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he found it in his asshole. DUH!
I'm surprised nobody thought of this so far. OF COURSE it was already in the holding cell. RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT. Where's fuckin' Willy Wonka when you need him!?
I'm surprised nobody thought of this so far. OF COURSE it was already in the holding cell. RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT. Where's fuckin' Willy Wonka when you need him!?
Jesus fucking christ just stop already. The hole your in, you're digging it deeper.
YES THEY SHOULD ALL BE LEGAL. MAKING DRUGS ILLEGAL DOESN'T GET RID OF DRUGS. WHEN YOU MAKE SOMETHING ILLEGAL YOU CREATE ROOM FOR BLACK MARKET PROFITS. THE MORE ILLEGAL THE MORE PROFITABLE. WHEN SOMETHING IS HIGHLY PROFITABLE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO SUPPLY IT.
GET IT?
The drug war is not a war that can be won. It's retarded. We're putting a shit ton of people in jail for non violent drug offenses, filling our fucking prison system so that we have to start letting other people off. It's fucked. If somebody wants to do some h, that's there fucking business. You the hell are you to tell them they can't?
1st. The drug war is wrong. It's ridiculous to thing we can start policing morals in that sense. If someone wants to smoke a bowl of meth, they aren't hurting anyone but themselves. It's the same at the seatbelt laws. It's fucked and should be abolished.
2nd. It doesn't fucking work. Prohibition only makes things worse. IT drives down the quality, and brings crime into the mix. Now there are 0 controls. It doesn't matter if they're selling mdma or bathsalts, it's illegal so there aren't any checks. Theres no quality control. They don't have to list the ingredients on the label. Instead of somebody doing 100% pure methylenedioximethamphetimine, people are doing anything and anything. Instead of people doing a consistent strength heroin, it's up in the air everytime. They could barely get high from dealer a but could od on less from dealer b.
3rd. Our countries in the shitter as far as economics. Legalizing drugs would create a fuck ton of jobs, and a fuck ton of money from tax revenue. Instead of that money filing into organized crime.
4th. Organized crime. Gangs/cartels. So we want to get rid of gangs right? I'm pretty sure that's been a huge goal of our police efforts for years. Wouldn't it be nice if we could do a big one too punch and cripple them? Drugs are their main source of income. Gangs sell drugs to buy guns, gangs kill other gangs over turf to sell drugs. The drug war has created a lot of violence. The cartels.Many of the cartels existence is based almost entirely of of the drug trade. Producing and smuggling drugs is their income. IF you legalize drugs, why would people buy drugs(where the quality is unkown) from some sketchy ass gangbanger in the hood, when they can go into a store and purchase the product with a label that has the exact ingredients and the purity. They would be fucked. The gangs aren't going to get jobs at mcdonalds to pay for their weapons.
5th. Doing the same thing again expecting a completely different result is fucking retarded. With alcohol prohibition we learned that it was a retarded idea. It brought in crime, it had people drinking sketchy bathtub liquor, and the whole time it was illegal people kept drinking. Fuck, prohibition even caused us to get the income tax thanks to the dumb women who were pushing the whole movement.
Prohibition was a shit idea then, it's been a shit idea for the drug war, and it'll be a shit idea for the future. It didn't work, isn't working, and won't work in the future.
We need to end the drug war NOW!!!!!
YES THEY SHOULD ALL BE LEGAL. MAKING DRUGS ILLEGAL DOESN'T GET RID OF DRUGS. WHEN YOU MAKE SOMETHING ILLEGAL YOU CREATE ROOM FOR BLACK MARKET PROFITS. THE MORE ILLEGAL THE MORE PROFITABLE. WHEN SOMETHING IS HIGHLY PROFITABLE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO SUPPLY IT.
GET IT?
The drug war is not a war that can be won. It's retarded. We're putting a shit ton of people in jail for non violent drug offenses, filling our fucking prison system so that we have to start letting other people off. It's fucked. If somebody wants to do some h, that's there fucking business. You the hell are you to tell them they can't?
1st. The drug war is wrong. It's ridiculous to thing we can start policing morals in that sense. If someone wants to smoke a bowl of meth, they aren't hurting anyone but themselves. It's the same at the seatbelt laws. It's fucked and should be abolished.
2nd. It doesn't fucking work. Prohibition only makes things worse. IT drives down the quality, and brings crime into the mix. Now there are 0 controls. It doesn't matter if they're selling mdma or bathsalts, it's illegal so there aren't any checks. Theres no quality control. They don't have to list the ingredients on the label. Instead of somebody doing 100% pure methylenedioximethamphetimine, people are doing anything and anything. Instead of people doing a consistent strength heroin, it's up in the air everytime. They could barely get high from dealer a but could od on less from dealer b.
3rd. Our countries in the shitter as far as economics. Legalizing drugs would create a fuck ton of jobs, and a fuck ton of money from tax revenue. Instead of that money filing into organized crime.
4th. Organized crime. Gangs/cartels. So we want to get rid of gangs right? I'm pretty sure that's been a huge goal of our police efforts for years. Wouldn't it be nice if we could do a big one too punch and cripple them? Drugs are their main source of income. Gangs sell drugs to buy guns, gangs kill other gangs over turf to sell drugs. The drug war has created a lot of violence. The cartels.Many of the cartels existence is based almost entirely of of the drug trade. Producing and smuggling drugs is their income. IF you legalize drugs, why would people buy drugs(where the quality is unkown) from some sketchy ass gangbanger in the hood, when they can go into a store and purchase the product with a label that has the exact ingredients and the purity. They would be fucked. The gangs aren't going to get jobs at mcdonalds to pay for their weapons.
5th. Doing the same thing again expecting a completely different result is fucking retarded. With alcohol prohibition we learned that it was a retarded idea. It brought in crime, it had people drinking sketchy bathtub liquor, and the whole time it was illegal people kept drinking. Fuck, prohibition even caused us to get the income tax thanks to the dumb women who were pushing the whole movement.
Prohibition was a shit idea then, it's been a shit idea for the drug war, and it'll be a shit idea for the future. It didn't work, isn't working, and won't work in the future.
We need to end the drug war NOW!!!!!
fujarome
Active member
find me a single cartel that will throw in the towel and say "you know, they're right. They sure beat us!" and disband. It's organized crime, find ANYTHING and they will find a way to sell it, make it, or do anything to make money off it. That's like saying simply not using wallets anymore will end petty theft.
That's the weakest part of your argument. Other than it's pretty solid.
That's the weakest part of your argument. Other than it's pretty solid.
God you're fucking stupid. Drugs should not be illegal.
sugar~glider
Member
in fact, it is the definition of insanity
People were already thinking it and somebody already mentioned it on page 1
you lose
you lose
DADDYlongLEGS
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Who are you responding to?
Huck_Norris
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sugar~glider
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... like pulling your legs up to your chest and swinging your arms to the front so you actually have a range of motion...
Randy_Quench
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my thoughts exactly.
.AR6rider.
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Aren't you like 16?
forrest-cole
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o reallly? because after a few days of no eating or drinking you'r not going to be a normal person, it's not like the guy knew they would eventually find him. In his mind he thought they may not show up for weeks and just find him dead...
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Student in DEA custody forgotten without food or water for days
By Rory Devine, Lauren Steussy and Tony Shin, NBCSanDiego.com
May 2, 2012, 11:44 am
MSN.com
A San Diego college
student detained for several days in a county detention facility cell is
seeking an attorney and may be considering filing a civil lawsuit,
sources tell NBCSanDiego.
The 24-year old UCSD
engineering student was left in the cell for five days without food or
water, seemingly forgotten by the federal authorities who detained him.
He was one of seven people
detained after a Drug Enforcement Administration ecstasy raid in
University City on April 21, according to a DEA statement.
See video, read the original report at NBCSanDiego.com
"The individual was at the house by his own admission," the DEA confirmed Monday.
During the raid,
authorities said, they confiscated ecstasy, marijuana, prescription
medication, hallucinogenic mushrooms, and a white powdery substance that
was described as a synthetic hallucinogen. They said they also seized
numerous weapons, including a Russian rifle, handguns and thousands of
rounds of ammunition.
"Seven suspects were
brought back to county detention." One was released, but "accidentally
left in one of the cells," a statement from the DEA read.
The defendants were
brought back to the DEA office after the raid and processed. The
suspects were moved around the five cells at the detention facility
during the proceeding. None were strip or body cavity searched, the
DEA stated.
A law enforcement source told NBC 7 that the student was handcuffed and held in a room no larger than the average bathroom.
Sources
say a worker at the DEA discovered the man by chance about five days
later after hearing strange noises coming from the holding cells.
When authorities with the
DEA discovered that the student was still in the cell, they immediately
called emergency medical services. UTSanDiego.com reported that San
Diego fire officials said paramedics were called April 25.
In the cell, the detainee told authorities he found a white powdery substance, which he took, the DEA statement said.
Later testing revealed the substance was methamphetamine.
Sources close to the
student say he nearly died of kidney failure in Sharp hospital due to
the dehydration he experienced. He was treated for several days and
released.
He is not currently under arrest, authorities with the DEA said.
San Diego defense attorney Gretchen Von Helms says the victim could get millions if he files a lawsuit.
"In all my years of
practice I've never heard of the DEA or any federal government employee
simply forgetting about someone that they have in their care," she said.
"There has to be repercussions if people do not follow the safety and the care when they have a human being in their custody."
Former federal prosecutor
John Kirby said he’s familiar with the holding cells at the DEA office.
He told NBC 7 San Diego that the rooms have no bathrooms and the suspect
likely went without food or water.
Given his familiarity with
the DEA, Kirby said this incident is “inconceivable” because every
detainee is processed, and it would be hard to get lost in the shuffle.
“You talk about whether
they might have done it intentionally. No way, because somebody's career
is done over this,” added Kirby.
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ShredMasterPlus
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well that didn't work out well lol. Thread title sounded to good to be true but sounds like it is. The meth was a "white powdery substance" that he was snorting.
hears the link and I'll try copy pasting again.
By Rory Devine, Lauren Steussy and Tony Shin, NBCSanDiego.com
A San Diego college student detained for several days in a county detention facility cell is seeking an attorney and may be considering filing a civil lawsuit, sources tell NBCSanDiego.
The
24-year old UCSD engineering student was left in the cell for five days
without food or water, seemingly forgotten by the federal authorities
who detained him.
He was one of seven people
detained after a Drug Enforcement Administration ecstasy raid in
University City on April 21, according to a DEA statement.
Advertise | AdChoices
See video, read the original report at NBCSanDiego.com
"The individual was at the house by his own admission," the DEA confirmed Monday.
During
the raid, authorities said, they confiscated ecstasy, marijuana,
prescription medication, hallucinogenic mushrooms, and a white powdery
substance that was described as a synthetic hallucinogen. They said they
also seized numerous weapons, including a Russian rifle, handguns and
thousands of rounds of ammunition.
"Seven suspects
were brought back to county detention." One was released, but
"accidentally left in one of the cells," a statement from the DEA read.
The
defendants were brought back to the DEA office after the raid and
processed. The suspects were moved around the five cells at the
detention facility during the proceeding. None were strip or body cavity
searched, the DEA stated.
A law enforcement source told NBC 7 that the student was handcuffed and held in a room no larger than the average bathroom.
Sources
say a worker at the DEA discovered the man by chance about five days
later after hearing strange noises coming from the holding cells.
When
authorities with the DEA discovered that the student was still in the
cell, they immediately called emergency medical services. UTSanDiego.com
reported that San Diego fire officials said paramedics were called
April 25.
In the cell, the detainee told authorities he found a white powdery substance, which he took, the DEA statement said.
Later testing revealed the substance was methamphetamine.
Sources
close to the student say he nearly died of kidney failure in Sharp
hospital due to the dehydration he experienced. He was treated for
several days and released.
He is not currently under arrest, authorities with the DEA said.
San Diego defense attorney Gretchen Von Helms says the victim could get millions if he files a lawsuit.
"In
all my years of practice I've never heard of the DEA or any federal
government employee simply forgetting about someone that they have in
their care," she said.
Advertise | AdChoices
"There has to be repercussions if people do not follow the safety and the care when they have a human being in their custody."
Former
federal prosecutor John Kirby said he’s familiar with the holding cells
at the DEA office. He told NBC 7 San Diego that the rooms have no
bathrooms and the suspect likely went without food or water.
Given
his familiarity with the DEA, Kirby said this incident is
“inconceivable” because every detainee is processed, and it would be
hard to get lost in the shuffle.
“You talk about
whether they might have done it intentionally. No way, because
somebody's career is done over this,” added Kirby.
hears the link and I'll try copy pasting again.
By Rory Devine, Lauren Steussy and Tony Shin, NBCSanDiego.com
A San Diego college student detained for several days in a county detention facility cell is seeking an attorney and may be considering filing a civil lawsuit, sources tell NBCSanDiego.
The
24-year old UCSD engineering student was left in the cell for five days
without food or water, seemingly forgotten by the federal authorities
who detained him.
He was one of seven people
detained after a Drug Enforcement Administration ecstasy raid in
University City on April 21, according to a DEA statement.
Advertise | AdChoices
See video, read the original report at NBCSanDiego.com
"The individual was at the house by his own admission," the DEA confirmed Monday.
During
the raid, authorities said, they confiscated ecstasy, marijuana,
prescription medication, hallucinogenic mushrooms, and a white powdery
substance that was described as a synthetic hallucinogen. They said they
also seized numerous weapons, including a Russian rifle, handguns and
thousands of rounds of ammunition.
"Seven suspects
were brought back to county detention." One was released, but
"accidentally left in one of the cells," a statement from the DEA read.
The
defendants were brought back to the DEA office after the raid and
processed. The suspects were moved around the five cells at the
detention facility during the proceeding. None were strip or body cavity
searched, the DEA stated.
A law enforcement source told NBC 7 that the student was handcuffed and held in a room no larger than the average bathroom.
Sources
say a worker at the DEA discovered the man by chance about five days
later after hearing strange noises coming from the holding cells.
When
authorities with the DEA discovered that the student was still in the
cell, they immediately called emergency medical services. UTSanDiego.com
reported that San Diego fire officials said paramedics were called
April 25.
In the cell, the detainee told authorities he found a white powdery substance, which he took, the DEA statement said.
Later testing revealed the substance was methamphetamine.
Sources
close to the student say he nearly died of kidney failure in Sharp
hospital due to the dehydration he experienced. He was treated for
several days and released.
He is not currently under arrest, authorities with the DEA said.
San Diego defense attorney Gretchen Von Helms says the victim could get millions if he files a lawsuit.
"In
all my years of practice I've never heard of the DEA or any federal
government employee simply forgetting about someone that they have in
their care," she said.
Advertise | AdChoices
"There has to be repercussions if people do not follow the safety and the care when they have a human being in their custody."
Former
federal prosecutor John Kirby said he’s familiar with the holding cells
at the DEA office. He told NBC 7 San Diego that the rooms have no
bathrooms and the suspect likely went without food or water.
Given
his familiarity with the DEA, Kirby said this incident is
“inconceivable” because every detainee is processed, and it would be
hard to get lost in the shuffle.
“You talk about
whether they might have done it intentionally. No way, because
somebody's career is done over this,” added Kirby.
.AR6rider.
Active member
...not meth.
Randy_Quench
Active member
you got me..
but hey, nice contribution to this thread.
and FUCKING LOL to the people who think they would do meth THAT THEY FOUND IN A HOLDING CELL because they were dehydrated. this guy was a nutcase and tried killing himself with his glasses. get real NS.
but hey, nice contribution to this thread.
and FUCKING LOL to the people who think they would do meth THAT THEY FOUND IN A HOLDING CELL because they were dehydrated. this guy was a nutcase and tried killing himself with his glasses. get real NS.
Abu_Hajaar
Active member
btw, it costs taxpayers $22,000 per year to keep some kid who got got busted with some sort of drug in jail.
Charlie_Kelly
Active member
It's cool that you wrote all this shit I could care less to read. It's also cool you call me stupid and ignorant when you are the one talking about a situation that, if it ever happens, wouldn't be for a long time.
Stop living in a fucking fantasy world. We are talking about real life where drugs ARE illegal. I agree, if drugs WERE legal it would solve the problem, but they're not, so shut the fuck up.
I also agree with all your point except number 1. I don't have a problem with someone doing meth and chilling in their house. But if they do meth, get in a car, think they are black jesus, and cause a 10 car accident killing three innocent people on their way home from work, then I do have a problem. And don't tell me the rate of deaths attributed in some way won't go up if drugs are legalized because if you don't believe that you are fucking dumb. Look at alcohol, it's legal and yet 4% of all deaths world wide are attributed to alcohol. Now imagine coke, heroin, meth, and all those fucked up drugs are easily accessible. Shit would be fucked.
It's cool that you think legalizing drugs will solve the problem, but it also has the potential to create a bigger problem. You're getting married right? Well imagine a world where in 10 years if you have kids, they have to grow up in a neighborhood around heroin a meth junkies. That's a large possibility.
You just need to start thinking long term buddy.
Stop living in a fucking fantasy world. We are talking about real life where drugs ARE illegal. I agree, if drugs WERE legal it would solve the problem, but they're not, so shut the fuck up.
I also agree with all your point except number 1. I don't have a problem with someone doing meth and chilling in their house. But if they do meth, get in a car, think they are black jesus, and cause a 10 car accident killing three innocent people on their way home from work, then I do have a problem. And don't tell me the rate of deaths attributed in some way won't go up if drugs are legalized because if you don't believe that you are fucking dumb. Look at alcohol, it's legal and yet 4% of all deaths world wide are attributed to alcohol. Now imagine coke, heroin, meth, and all those fucked up drugs are easily accessible. Shit would be fucked.
It's cool that you think legalizing drugs will solve the problem, but it also has the potential to create a bigger problem. You're getting married right? Well imagine a world where in 10 years if you have kids, they have to grow up in a neighborhood around heroin a meth junkies. That's a large possibility.
You just need to start thinking long term buddy.
Charlie_Kelly
Active member
I'm just saying that if we were to legalize all drugs, like aboetionator thinks, if alcohol is 4%, how much will all drug related death's contribute to that number
Bill.Nye
Active member
We have no reason the number will go up at all, and we have some reason to think it would go down. Drug abuse is a medical problem, not a legal one, and focussing resources on locking up drug abusers prevents us from being able to give treatment to the people who actually need it.
Plus, Marijuana doesn't kill anyone.
Plus, Marijuana doesn't kill anyone.
Charlie_Kelly
Active member
Clearly you're missing what I'm saying so I'll try to simplify it one more time for you.
Alcohol is legal. 4% of all the deaths in the world are related to alcohol.
If drugs are legal like alcohol, and I mean all drugs since abortionator foolishly thinks that would be beneficial, what's to say the number of deaths attributed to drug use wouldn't go up.
The chances for drug addiction would sky-rocket. You think it's bad now? It would certainly get much worse.
I'm not talking about marijuana. Marijuana is a plant that is practically harmless. I'm talking about hard drugs...
Alcohol is legal. 4% of all the deaths in the world are related to alcohol.
If drugs are legal like alcohol, and I mean all drugs since abortionator foolishly thinks that would be beneficial, what's to say the number of deaths attributed to drug use wouldn't go up.
The chances for drug addiction would sky-rocket. You think it's bad now? It would certainly get much worse.
I'm not talking about marijuana. Marijuana is a plant that is practically harmless. I'm talking about hard drugs...
panojibber
Active member
Physical symptoms of alcohol withdrawal are deadly.
Physical symptoms of Cocaine withdrawal, morphine withdrawal... Are not deadly.
You can overdose on alcohol, you can overdose on painkillers.
They're really not that different, and one leads to much worse driving.
Physical symptoms of Cocaine withdrawal, morphine withdrawal... Are not deadly.
You can overdose on alcohol, you can overdose on painkillers.
They're really not that different, and one leads to much worse driving.
Bill.Nye
Active member
I understand exactly what you're saying and I'm telling you you're wrong. We have no reason to believe that use of hard drugs would go up if they were made legal and we have several historical precedents and a coherent theory to suggest that deaths and other complications from those drugs would go down. When we outlawed alcohol, deaths from alcohol went up, not down. We need to put the money we spend on locking people up into treatment and prevention. We would do 100x more good at a fraction of the cost.
Charlie_Kelly
Active member
You can overdose on almost every single drug there is. And I'm not even talking about the addiction. I'm talking about the deaths attributed while on these drugs I.e. people thinking it's smart to drive, jump off buildings, go on killing sprees, etc.
Charlie_Kelly
Active member
How can you tell me I'm wrong? This is all hypothetical. You are basing your argument off prohibition. Alcohol is completely different from the hard drugs I mentioned.
And please can you give me 1 source proving that there were more alcohol attributed deaths before prohibition than after.
And please can you give me 1 source proving that there were more alcohol attributed deaths before prohibition than after.
Bill.Nye
Active member
I'm telling you that you're wrong because you're basing an assumption off nothing and going against the best historical comparisons we have. Sure, it's hypothetical, but that doesn't mean we are just randomly probing in the dark and guessing. We can look at history and when we do, it leads us to believe that legalizing drugs will not make the situation worse, and will very likely make it better.
Here's a link about prohibitionhttp://druglibrary.org/prohibitionresults1.htm
And here's an article about how drug overdoses and needle related HIV cases fell in Portugal after they decriminalized heroin, LSD, cocaine, and pot.
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=portugal-drug-decriminalization
That's why I'm saying you're wrong.
Here's a link about prohibitionhttp://druglibrary.org/prohibitionresults1.htm
And here's an article about how drug overdoses and needle related HIV cases fell in Portugal after they decriminalized heroin, LSD, cocaine, and pot.
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=portugal-drug-decriminalization
That's why I'm saying you're wrong.
joshua
Active member
This this this, guy posts in every drug related thread, and he sounds like a typical 16 year-old with rich parents who smokes weed at preppy parties on weekends, and thinks he has got the whole drug thing figured out.
REALITY CHECK: Hard drugs are bad news. My dad owns a roofing company, and since the work is so crappy a lot of guys who have hit rock bottom end up working there, and let me tell you I will NEVER touch hard drugs after working with those dudes. Meth, pills, all the stuff ruins lives bud.
REALITY CHECK: Hard drugs are bad news. My dad owns a roofing company, and since the work is so crappy a lot of guys who have hit rock bottom end up working there, and let me tell you I will NEVER touch hard drugs after working with those dudes. Meth, pills, all the stuff ruins lives bud.
Charlie_Kelly
Active member
And thank you. I still disagree but at least you actually made your point valid.