4 grand is cheap? okay, maybe to some..but why the new HD cam? i'm not familiar with it at all except by name, but i don't think i'd drop 4K on a piece of brand new technology. i would wait until more companies had developed HD on video because it's sure to have some bugs or problems somewhere. maybe not, but damn...for $4000 i would snag an XL1 or even the PD150. i know the 150 is more of a jounalism cam, but i use it at school and i love it. the picture is amazing. it's used for many many TV shows. broadcast quality for sure. plus it's almost the identical body to the VX1000/2000/2100...all of which are huge with skating, skiing, and anything else like it.