Can you ruin your brain with psychedelics ?

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I’ve taken more than my fair share of shrooms and acid. I definitely don’t feel fried like DARE would claim. But I also knew xankilla before he went off the deepend and he is pretty much what I’d imagine being fried is like. Do you think psychs fry people with extended use or high doses? Stories?
 
Yes you can. I know plenty of perma spunions. Then again some of my friend eat heavy amounts semi regularly and do fine. One of my buddies split half a sheet in 3 day camping trip with another friend. They were lit Im sure but I just talked to him the other day and hes fine. Also I know some people that were weird af before psychedelics.

Idk, they def have gnar impacts with certain mental health issue. Always worth being careful because they are powerful substances. I'll eat a small amount of mushrooms anyrime but ai won't east acid anymore and will very very rarely smoke deemsters.

My threshold of too much is lower than it used to be. Idk. I like being able to function in normal society ither than being a weird dude with some head injuries and mental health issues. But I know what amounts I need to explore and learn, or just have fun. I don't push it. I don't need to impress anyone and I'm not trying to get that lit.
 
yes, ask [tag=261198]@DolanReloaded[/tag]

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Yes, but the damage from overuse of psychedelics manifests years later, many years later, and its subtle but devastating.
 
Psychedelics will melt the subjective illusions of your personal psychology and the illusions objective/subjective reality around you (this process can happen subconsciously aswell)

Now, this can be a beneficial to improving your life. However a constant breaking down of these walls lets too much of reality in, you realise you are a small creature with a laughable amount of power who lives an illusory life in the face of annihilation.

Very few men can bear this burden of undoubtable knowledge on their own psyche. It is the basis of psychosis - the realisation of duality that we are a rotting body with an infinite mind.

You have to build the walls of your own reality up after psychedelics and for most people (and by most I mean quite literally 99.9%) creating a more “positive” life is adequate. That is whatever you think is a bad habit in life IE: to much scrolling the internet.

The doses one can take without destroying their psyche, depends on the individuals composition.
 
First time this chick I knew tripped, she kept on spouting off on how we are all spiritually connected and that we should all be together yada yada. I’m just here to have a good time, she just became a kook. When drugs are fucking with peoples minds, they think they’ve suddenly found the keys to life.
 
yeah ever i noticed i’ve started to get something similar to adhd because of drugs. in no way do i do a lot of drugs but it definitely affects you.
 
I ate a bunch of brownies in college and had one of the worst times ive ever had from drugs. Sometimes when i smoked weed i would have a bad trip but you can always just shut the lights off, close your eyes, and wake up a few hrs later feeling fine. But when i ate weed i started having a bad trip but i couldnt just escape it like with smoking weed. I felt like shit for like 2 days straight and vowed never to do anything psychadelic again. If somebody slipped me acid without me knowing i would probably start to cry, knowing that there would probably come a time in the next 24-36 hrs where i would want to get off the merry go round but wouldnt be able to.

ive thought about trying dmt, because it only lasts a few minutes, but who knows maybe i would have a bad trip from that too.

ive heard many people talk about having a total mental collapse from psychadelics like lsd. Im not the only one.

I dont know how Hunter S Thompson could burn so hard on psychadelics and still feel at home in his mind afterwards. Hes got an amount of sheer grit that i dont seem to come close to having.

i feel like sometimes its ok to admit your limitations. When it comes to psychadelics im a huge pussy
 
It’s not the drugs that ruin your brain, it’s the fake woke culture that goes along with it. Some kids take sheets of acid and are fine, others do shrooms once and then develop an enlightened superiority complex.
 
I think they can be very useful for people with depression/PTSD/anxiety. They would make the most synical bastard see the beauty the world has to offer. I was watching a video recently, a woman with clinical depression taking ayahuasca for the first time. Long story short, he has a breakthrough moment where she sees spider on the ground and one of the people in the room puts a glass over it and she thanks the guys for not stepping on it. In that moment she realised that she has more care and compassion for a small spider than she has ever shown herself.

I have has similar breakthroughs on shrooms where everything seems so clear and you can’t believe you have never thought of these things before. I think they are great for a change in perspective when you are feeling stagnant or stuck in a rut.

Ive personally only ever heard of one person that ever was permanently fucked up after taking too much. He and a friend of mine took about 25 doses of acid each over 2 days at a festival. My buddy was fine but unfortunately his friend never really came back and was diagnosed with schizophrenia. It’s kind of a chicken and the egg scenario. Likelihood is that he would have developed schizophrenia anyway but the 2500mg of acid was a catalyst.

I also have personal experience. I did a about 1g of shrooms with some guys I worked with when they came to my house. One of the guys started acting really strange, and started freaking out a little. We told him to just go into my room and try and chill and listen to some music. He came out like 2 mins later and was still acting very anxious and saying he didn’t feel good. We decided to change tactics and try to get to the bottom of why he was feeling shitty and some family issues came up which I won’t go into detail. Later, he started to believe he was dead and we were all dead too, sounds like he was on the brink of ‘ego-death’ as it can be very scary but doesn’t really make sense with the low dose. He then started saying that he needed to kill himself in order to wake up. This is the point when we had to start phsically restraining him so he wouldn’t go into the kitchen and try and get knives.

He started acting completely normal after about 30 mins of freaking out, so we kinda chilled a bit but obviously kept an eye on him. He then went to the washroom and suddenly we hear him saying ‘HELP HELP, IM DYING, I NEED HELP, COME QUICK!’

I run into the washroom and he is on the phone so I take the phone out of his hands and he had dialled 911 and was speaking to the operator. At this point I said fuck it and spoke to the operator and told him to call an ambulance because this dude was becoming a danger to himself. I told him that he was talking about killing himself so he called the cops too. My house was 40 mins in either direction from the cop shop or hospital so it took them forever to get there. My one buddy was holding him down while I was on the phone to the operator for about an hour. Operator was real chill and was saying things like ‘damn, talking to Someone I don’t know on the phone for an hour is the last thing I would want to do if I was on mushrooms’.

The cops ended up coming and the dude just stood in my kitchen facing the wall with his eyes closed, the cops were standing 10ft behind him and trying to talk to him, he wouldn’t respond. He then randomly fell backwards into the floor like a tree being felled in the woods. The police then picked him up and took him to the ambulance and took him to hospital. I saw him at work 3 days later. He was totally normal and apologised and said it brought up some fucked up shit that happened to him from his childhood.

TL;DR, if you had fucked up shit has happen to you, don’t take too many psycadellics. Or do in a controlled environment with a therapist and it may help you. Don’t do too much if you have a family history of schizophrenia.

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when I was in my late teens and early 20's I was fine with tripping and loved it, but eventually I maxed out on it and my mind told me nope, no more, and I totally just stopped enjoying it, have stayed away since. I think we all have a threshold point where you max out on tripping, and taking it past that point is when you risk a psychotic break from reality.
 
Actual schizophrenia is not caused by drugs. I don’t really believe real LSD or shrooms will cause damage. The people I have seen get messed up all took other stuff mostly booze
 
14149243:OregonDead said:
Actual schizophrenia is not caused by drugs. I don’t really believe real LSD or shrooms will cause damage. The people I have seen get messed up all took other stuff mostly booze

The only people I have seen become 'Never the same' from drugs were from opiates. Fuck that shit.
 
14149104:Emma_Watson said:
yes, ask [tag=261198]@DolanReloaded[/tag]

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**This post was edited on Jun 11th 2020 at 2:05:53am

dolans the poster child of fetal alcohol syndrome
 
How do you guys feel about acid flashbacks? people full of shit or nah? That's one of reasons I pussy out with lsd. I really wish the shit was re-legalized so there could be actual research done on long term effects.
 
14149129:CLQ said:
First time this chick I knew tripped, she kept on spouting off on how we are all spiritually connected and that we should all be together yada yada. I’m just here to have a good time, she just became a kook. When drugs are fucking with peoples minds, they think they’ve suddenly found the keys to life.

Some people just do drugs to get fucked up and pretend that their some super spiritual person because they smoked weed or ate a bunk dose at a festival once.

Other people do get a lot out it. It can open up a realm of creativity that allows one to build something amazing or make great changes to their life. It can be something people do to get high af with no real gains and no real consequences. It can send people to the point where they are pretty much show. That said some people were already shot before, and some people either already had mental illnesses, or some form that was triggered or made worse by doing too much.

Like anything else. It can be awesome, but it can also be bad. The spunions that think everyone eating a 10 strip will solve all there problems are delusional, but there is a lot that can be gained through psychedelics.
 
14149173:JAHBRADOR said:
I think they can be very useful for people with depression/PTSD/anxiety. They would make the most synical bastard see the beauty the world has to offer. I was watching a video recently, a woman with clinical depression taking ayahuasca for the first time. Long story short, he has a breakthrough moment where she sees spider on the ground and one of the people in the room puts a glass over it and she thanks the guys for not stepping on it. In that moment she realised that she has more care and compassion for a small spider than she has ever shown herself.

I have has similar breakthroughs on shrooms where everything seems so clear and you can’t believe you have never thought of these things before. I think they are great for a change in perspective when you are feeling stagnant or stuck in a rut.

Ive personally only ever heard of one person that ever was permanently fucked up after taking too much. He and a friend of mine took about 25 doses of acid each over 2 days at a festival. My buddy was fine but unfortunately his friend never really came back and was diagnosed with schizophrenia. It’s kind of a chicken and the egg scenario. Likelihood is that he would have developed schizophrenia anyway but the 2500mg of acid was a catalyst.

I also have personal experience. I did a about 1g of shrooms with some guys I worked with when they came to my house. One of the guys started acting really strange, and started freaking out a little. We told him to just go into my room and try and chill and listen to some music. He came out like 2 mins later and was still acting very anxious and saying he didn’t feel good. We decided to change tactics and try to get to the bottom of why he was feeling shitty and some family issues came up which I won’t go into detail. Later, he started to believe he was dead and we were all dead too, sounds like he was on the brink of ‘ego-death’ as it can be very scary but doesn’t really make sense with the low dose. He then started saying that he needed to kill himself in order to wake up. This is the point when we had to start phsically restraining him so he wouldn’t go into the kitchen and try and get knives.

He started acting completely normal after about 30 mins of freaking out, so we kinda chilled a bit but obviously kept an eye on him. He then went to the washroom and suddenly we hear him saying ‘HELP HELP, IM DYING, I NEED HELP, COME QUICK!’

I run into the washroom and he is on the phone so I take the phone out of his hands and he had dialled 911 and was speaking to the operator. At this point I said fuck it and spoke to the operator and told him to call an ambulance because this dude was becoming a danger to himself. I told him that he was talking about killing himself so he called the cops too. My house was 40 mins in either direction from the cop shop or hospital so it took them forever to get there. My one buddy was holding him down while I was on the phone to the operator for about an hour. Operator was real chill and was saying things like ‘damn, talking to Someone I don’t know on the phone for an hour is the last thing I would want to do if I was on mushrooms’.

The cops ended up coming and the dude just stood in my kitchen facing the wall with his eyes closed, the cops were standing 10ft behind him and trying to talk to him, he wouldn’t respond. He then randomly fell backwards into the floor like a tree being felled in the woods. The police then picked him up and took him to the ambulance and took him to hospital. I saw him at work 3 days later. He was totally normal and apologised and said it brought up some fucked up shit that happened to him from his childhood.

TL;DR, if you had fucked up shit has happen to you, don’t take too many psycadellics. Or do in a controlled environment with a therapist and it may help you. Don’t do too much if you have a family history of schizophrenia.

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Word that's wild. A good friend I used to ski with all the time back east went off. I ate acid with him a few times. Def smoked weed together every day at the hill. Ate mushrooms a couple times i think too.

He's been in an out if the hospital. Has schizophrenia. Doesn't believe he does. Has posted basically paranoid that his family is lying to him and out to get him. And other stuff.

He was a normal enough guy but you never know whats going on in people's heads, what their medical history is, or even what they're up to. Maybe he did a bunch of shit, maybe he barely even did stuff and was already hesding that route. Maybe something happened in life that triggered shit.

Def sucks to watch a friend go through that. I was happy to ski with him a few years back and catch up a bit. He was doing alright at that point. Hope he still is. Good dude.

Good your shroom friend was fine after.
 
14149292:theabortionator said:
Some people just do drugs to get fucked up and pretend that their some super spiritual person because they smoked weed or ate a bunk dose at a festival once.

Other people do get a lot out it. It can open up a realm of creativity that allows one to build something amazing or make great changes to their life. It can be something people do to get high af with no real gains and no real consequences. It can send people to the point where they are pretty much show. That said some people were already shot before, and some people either already had mental illnesses, or some form that was triggered or made worse by doing too much.

Like anything else. It can be awesome, but it can also be bad. The spunions that think everyone eating a 10 strip will solve all there problems are delusional, but there is a lot that can be gained through psychedelics.

Yeah I agree, I think everyone should trip at least once in their life. I also think that it can certainly help people and their problems in life, let’s then think of new things and be creative. It only bothers me when people trip and then think they have the answers to lifes questions such as what happens after death?
 
14149372:satanworshipper said:
Conclusion: It really all depends on the person.

yeah man , most people with underlying mental disorders are often not diagnosed and have never had a proper assessment , combine that with psychedelics and it's a crap shoot at best.
 
14149291:Biffbarf said:
How do you guys feel about acid flashbacks? people full of shit or nah? That's one of reasons I pussy out with lsd. I really wish the shit was re-legalized so there could be actual research done on long term effects.

It’s complete bullshit and I’m fucking pissed. I want to trip for free dammit
 
Yeah theres a woman in my town who took like half a sheet of acid and is now really messed up. She just walks around all day kicking leaves
 
14149290:Bdoobz said:
See also: Syd Barrett

Shit's sad.

14149291:Biffbarf said:
How do you guys feel about acid flashbacks? people full of shit or nah? That's one of reasons I pussy out with lsd. I really wish the shit was re-legalized so there could be actual research done on long term effects.

Shit's real. Are a lot of people full of shit? maybe, hell a lot of people are full of shit in general. Everyone's different best bet is too get it wrong a decent source and start small. Beer can be fun too be like "woah bro I drank fitty beers man!" but psychedelics aren't a contest. I'm not going to pitch the psuedo intellectual "It's so spiritual bro it's a sacrament" but just be careful. It can be a great thing, and it can be not that great a thing. If you're really worried about it maybe wait a bit, but if you're in a chill mindset at the opportunity comes up with the right people and setting maybe check it out.

14149437:DIRTYBUBBLE said:
It’s complete bullshit and I’m fucking pissed. I want to trip for free dammit

It's not bullshit and flashbacks aren't really good a lot of the time. And could be bordering on a persons potential entrance into psychosis. Taking droogz and getting fucked up is fun, just chilling and feeling like you're tripping randomly, not fun. I guess if you're doing yoga or meditation to try and bring on those states naturally or whatever that's different.
 
14149305:CLQ said:
Yeah I agree, I think everyone should trip at least once in their life. I also think that it can certainly help people and their problems in life, let’s then think of new things and be creative. It only bothers me when people trip and then think they have the answers to lifes questions such as what happens after death?

Ironically its now known as a shitty party drug but MDMA actually changed my life more than any other psychedelic I tried. It was like I became this ultimate version of myself with no self doubt or negative feelings. Afterward I actually made it a point to try to be that way in my every day life. The problem is people just take it to go YOLO at EDM shows without respecting the therapeutic value of it. MDMA is actually one of the best therapies for people with PTSD.

Shrooms was a hell of an experience because I took 1/8th my first time and got lost in the woods above Boulder for like 8 hours and ended up with the sun going down and no hope of finding a trail or anything. Luckily, I did a lot of backpacking back in the day or I probably would have lost it. It was crazy being alone out there though with the forest breathing around me like a single alive entity. Ironically, the part that fucked me up the most was walking back through Chataqua park and finally thinking I was safe and back to civilization and someone put a 'welcome back to the matrix' sticker with a security camera over it on the gate by that parking lot. I remember looking at it thinking and was about 50% about to turn around and head back into the woods.

Acid is fun but I never really got much out of it except for some interesting mild visuals and synthesia which I actually enjoyed quite a bit. I have only done lower doses though.

That is the thing about psychedelics, they are a window to look through but at the end of the day you need to get up and walk through the door.
 
14149291:Biffbarf said:
How do you guys feel about acid flashbacks? people full of shit or nah? That's one of reasons I pussy out with lsd. I really wish the shit was re-legalized so there could be actual research done on long term effects.

I've never experienced them, and I've been eating quite a lot of acid for years. I also do not know anybody who has ever experienced this

I think it is grade A propoganda. The basis of the claim is that LSD is stored in your spine or something like that. How can that be possible when LSD is incredibly water soluble? It wouldn't be able to stick anywhere in your body. If you get clean acid, it can be pretty benign for most people. However, finding clean acid is a task in itself in 2020. Most of it is weak and dirty

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14149530:Rparr said:
I've never experienced them, and I've been eating quite a lot of acid for years. I also do not know anybody who has ever experienced this

I think it is grade A propoganda. The basis of the claim is that LSD is stored in your spine or something like that. How can that be possible when LSD is incredibly water soluble? It wouldn't be able to stick anywhere in your body. If you get clean acid, it can be pretty benign for most people. However, finding clean acid is a task in itself in 2020. Most of it is weak and dirty

**This post was edited on Jun 12th 2020 at 4:47:11am

Was gonna mention that harmless is the wrong word but now I agree. There's a lot of stuff in the world that can kill you. Acid is pretty safe. Unfortunately the yolo vibe or ignorance from some people, harsh legal penalties, and easy to buy rando Chinese stuff, things are pretty funky.

It's shitty though. Now k has fallen into the same boat. Molly has already been shot just got more shot.

People are going to do drugs, so make it super illegal to have real drugs, let people buy fake drugs, and get sendy on that rc life. Seems smart. Our drug policies in this country and around the world are outdated af.
 
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