Can we stop giving Tanner Hall FWT wildcards?
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FreezyBreezy
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14484175:skierman said:
Cry me a river old man!
SteezyYeeter
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14484173:FreezyBreezy said:
jeez i'm sorry i didn't put a period at the end, ur such a nerd ?
Farmville420
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Hank right, tanner the goat but I’d Rather see Levi, pnorvell, Jonah w, bennie smith, thayne or wachs any day and no bias at all
SavageBiff
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He also landed on his neck, which I enjoyed waaaay more than the triple backie. Nothing he does looks smooth, he sets and looks like he’s stiff and afraid or taking a shit.
14483981:kalle. said:
snowfinder
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Who cares if they toss in one big name to get some marketing/media. That skier waiting in his shadows can go drop a decent edit and get more attention than competing in the FWT.
SavageBiff
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This, I really don’t think Tanner is taking away anything from anyone, like, he’s not causing someone to go un noticed, and if he’s beatin someone, then they just need to get better or give up cause he’s waaay past his prime
14484274:snowfinder said:
hank.ski
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There are hundreds of ams and probably a dozen pros who would love to have that spot. The wildcard is supposed to add a dimension of unpredictability. In Andorra, they invite a local dude with a day job. In Austria, they invited an FWQ winner and he smoked everyone. I think it's more interesting when they bring new faces into the fold
14484284:SavageBiff said:
snowfinder
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14484297:hank.ski said:
All those ams and pros should ski better and earn a spot on the tour.
snowfinder
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Oh look a video about Tanner Hall has 20k views in 3 days. Why dont they add a real wildcard to the tour? This is why.
Brocka_Flocka
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We all know they wanted Candide but had to settle for they guy with the weed tattoo ?
Farmville420
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14484304:snowfinder said:
Just because it makes sense doesn’t mean it isn’t shitty? I don’t think OP was asking why Tanner got the wildcard, but just that it’s stupid. Same with real ski, like yeah it’s funny and crazy cuz he’s old but real ski is a locked in tens of thousand views to a hundred something views and some dudes deserve that exposure wayyyy more than tanner did. He literally filmed a damn near backcountry segment and hitting two rails like it’s just annoying for kids actually trying to make careers or names for themselves
snowfinder
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14484317:Farmville420 said:
Think the people that need to pay for these events care about some kid trying to make it in skiing?
Farmville420
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14484325:snowfinder said:
Wow so jaded and edgy, ofcourse they don’t their actions show it every time that’s why ppl will complain every time they do some dumb shit
snowfinder
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14484331:Farmville420 said:
Difference between jaded and being realistic. People have been complaining about comp line up forever does it ever change? No.
Want to see your fav skiers in a comp make one and invite them.
first_rodeo
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SKI BOSS is a true legend.... coming back from injuries and addiction i like the story and seeing him compete.
Who cares about the FWT, get Tanner back on NS
thankagaper
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real freestyle skiing, on real mountains.
triple flips belong on aerial kickers, trained in bathing suits to perfect execution.
triple flips belong on aerial kickers, trained in bathing suits to perfect execution.
SavageBiff
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I def agree looking at it from that perspective, I always hope to see the wildcards take it, and yah I’d rather see some unknown local ripper
At the same time, I’m never disappointed watching tanner eat shit
At the same time, I’m never disappointed watching tanner eat shit
14484297:hank.ski said:
IsaacNW82
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Yea, I kinda agree. I love Tanner but I think if he wants to do this FWT thing he should prioritize it. And when he does stuff like bailing on the Bec, the FWT should make it clear that he can't dabble here, there are plenty of deserving people who will take that wildcard spot much more seriously.
Not to excuse Tanner, but it does seem like the FWT is enabling him to act this way by inviting him back after a snub like that. I think there's nothing wrong with inviting an OG to the FWT, as long as they take it seriously and give that respect back by making the comp a priority.
Not to excuse Tanner, but it does seem like the FWT is enabling him to act this way by inviting him back after a snub like that. I think there's nothing wrong with inviting an OG to the FWT, as long as they take it seriously and give that respect back by making the comp a priority.
cyphers
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really surprised they tossed him another wildcard after he flaked on the bec. only top 2 guys from the fwq get a chance every season after spending thousands of $ and countless hours trying to make the tour. maybe offer #3 a wildcard instead of a guy who has previously demonstrated he doesn’t give a shit?
CT_CREW
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topic:hank.ski said:
You really don't find it cool/interesting to watch Legends of the sport compete against the young guns?...To me that is pretty dope
Also Tanner has put in the work/dedication to skiing over his career to deserve a wild card, doesn't matter if some people don't like his personality etc.
as for handing out wildcards to young talent, its like how do you just say yep this random young gun who is bad ass at skiing gets a wildcard, and all the other bad ass unknown skiers don't. The young bucks gotta compete/prove themselves for the spot.
Wildcards get handed out to people who have proven themselves.....Previous qualifiers, Legends of the sport etc.
(yes Pehota, Durstchi, and others you mentioned are also proven/deserving. I would bet if some of those dudes reached out for a wildcard they would prolly get one..but they prolly got their own shit going on)
anywho I think watching Tanner compete in FWT events is pretty damn exciting...
P.S. Try to imagine hucking shit as scary as they do after blowing up both ankles, both legs, both knees, an achilles, and who knows what else. Dude is an animal. Respect.
SavageBiff
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The dudes an asshole and idgaf what kinda vibes your perception tells you I’m giving off nor what you assume I would not do.
14484706:CT_CREW said:
While I agree with you that people who deserve and will use their invite should be prioritized, that is not the way the world works.
Yes those two other people you named did impressive tricks and skied well. But who was going to tune into the event to watch them? Maybe 20 people if you include their family? Events need to make money from advertising. Brands don't want to advertise in a space that no one is paying attention to. I'm willing to bet that when Tanner is added to the rider list you get at least 50% more viewers initially.
Yes those two other people you named did impressive tricks and skied well. But who was going to tune into the event to watch them? Maybe 20 people if you include their family? Events need to make money from advertising. Brands don't want to advertise in a space that no one is paying attention to. I'm willing to bet that when Tanner is added to the rider list you get at least 50% more viewers initially.
cydwhit
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I kinda sorta mostly agree. But I also think it's symptomatic of a bigger challenge the FWT faces.
I don't personally follow the FWT aggressively, I'll catch the highlight clips, but I'm not watching the live stream. However, I did watch several events live in 19/20 precisely because Tanner was competing and I wanted to see how he stacked up. So, if this is a marketing ploy, it worked on me. And for some reason, Durtschi's wildcard spot didn't motivate me the same way, I didn't care to watch.
And I totally understand what you're saying about opening up that spot to more young guns/talent that didn't qualify the traditional way, but I also think that's sorta the problem with my relationship with the FWT. It's hard to keep up with, there's not a ton of overlap between the skiers that impact my life, and the skiers on the tour, so I'm not watching. And it seems like a hard move to justify an established film skier, like many of the folks you mentioned, competing blind in variable snow just for whatever small bump they'd get from being in the FWT. Maybe I'm way off there, but it seems like a lot of risk and very little reward for most film skiers?
Anyhow, the FWT is sick, it's some of the rowdiest skiing you can watch, but somehow, for me at least, there's too much of a disconnect, it doesn't resonate with my experience as a skier, and it's not enough of an over-the-top spectacle to attract my attention either. But for some reason I can't fully articulate, I get way more hyped to watch Kings and Queens of Corbets, or a good video part than I ever do for the FWT. Maybe I'm broken?
I don't personally follow the FWT aggressively, I'll catch the highlight clips, but I'm not watching the live stream. However, I did watch several events live in 19/20 precisely because Tanner was competing and I wanted to see how he stacked up. So, if this is a marketing ploy, it worked on me. And for some reason, Durtschi's wildcard spot didn't motivate me the same way, I didn't care to watch.
And I totally understand what you're saying about opening up that spot to more young guns/talent that didn't qualify the traditional way, but I also think that's sorta the problem with my relationship with the FWT. It's hard to keep up with, there's not a ton of overlap between the skiers that impact my life, and the skiers on the tour, so I'm not watching. And it seems like a hard move to justify an established film skier, like many of the folks you mentioned, competing blind in variable snow just for whatever small bump they'd get from being in the FWT. Maybe I'm way off there, but it seems like a lot of risk and very little reward for most film skiers?
Anyhow, the FWT is sick, it's some of the rowdiest skiing you can watch, but somehow, for me at least, there's too much of a disconnect, it doesn't resonate with my experience as a skier, and it's not enough of an over-the-top spectacle to attract my attention either. But for some reason I can't fully articulate, I get way more hyped to watch Kings and Queens of Corbets, or a good video part than I ever do for the FWT. Maybe I'm broken?
cyphers
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14484874:cydwhit said:
it’s because ex racer europeans can only get hard for guys that ski a tech line through dogshit conditions. tricks and style are completely lost on them
for the record i like a healthy mix of both and it seems to be trending that way (see max palm). but freestyle still isn’t respected that much in the scoring
CT_CREW
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14484874:cydwhit said:
Weird man, I would think a backcountry oriented guy like you seem to be, would enjoy watching a tour live stream more than Corbets… not hating just observing…. I relate more to picking out the hardest line I could ride down a face, compared to meat bucking into Corbets. Although that is a fun watch too.
Brocka_Flocka
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14484894:Film. said:
hes gonna do a double backflip on IG
hank.ski
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I have a few theories about this, bc 6ou aren't the only skier I know who feels this way.
-they need better marketing for the athletes. They should be providing extensive interviews, hosting season edits, etc.
-they need to be less harsh about backslaps and butt touches, like Natural Selection.
-they need to livestream the qualifiers too.
-they need to land verbier on espn
-they need better marketing for the athletes. They should be providing extensive interviews, hosting season edits, etc.
-they need to be less harsh about backslaps and butt touches, like Natural Selection.
-they need to livestream the qualifiers too.
-they need to land verbier on espn
14484874:cydwhit said:
Brocka_Flocka
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14485324:hank.ski said:
They need to sell the rights to a streaming service and do a Drive to Survive sort of situation.
butterflywatcher
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14483975:SteezyYeeter said:
im not hating, just odd