Breonna Taylor Case: One officer charged with 3 counts wanton endangerment. $15k cash bond.

14177148:Lonely said:
So I looked at some of the stuff again. The warrant was originally signed as a no-knock, then it was changed to a knock and announce not long before the warrant was served. According to the New York Times that interviewed some neighbors, a few said they did not announce and a couple said that they did. The AG confirmed that they announced with only one witness. Surprised they did not bring more in, at least that I heard about. All cops should have body cams. I do not understand why some departments are against them. They would do more to help officers than hurt them. Especially when it appears there was some false reporting by the police in the actual report. Intentional or not it really doesn't help their case.

It still blows my mind that someone who was in there home, late at night, and did not shoot at police was shot and killed by police and not even a manslaughter charge was brought forward. It scares me as a gun owner, that using my firearms to defend myself could easily get me killed.

I mean, look at these two cases.

In case one, the man answers the door with his gun, sees the police, and gets down on his knees while waist banding his firearm, which I believe he owned legally.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...an-shot-dead-cop-answering-door-gun-hand.html

In the second case, a woman was shot dead by a rookie cop who was scared of her dog
https://www.fox4news.com/news/ex-ar...d-for-killing-woman-while-trying-to-shoot-dog

People can argue it is a high-stress job but the fact of the matter is that there needs to be an entire system overhaul. People who aren't committing crimes shouldn't have to fear getting shot and killed by police. The number of people we should be okay with dying that way is 0. There needs to be more accountability so we don't have to deal with cases like this. If one of my old roommates went to prison, I shouldn't have to fear that my life will be ended while doing nothing wrong by poorly trained cops.

I read The NY Times article, they seem to be the only source saying the no knock warrant was changed. I’ll have to follow up on that.

“Court records show that Louisville police obtained a warrant with a no-knock provision for Taylor's apartment approved by Jefferson Circuit Judge Mary Shaw, though police and prosecutors have said that the officers knocked and announced themselves before breaking down the door.”
https://www.courier-journal.com/sto...-taylor-fact-check-7-rumors-wrong/5326938002/

Here’s a link to the affidavit which breaks down the probable cause police had:
https://reason.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/Breonna-Taylor-search-warrants.pdf

And here is the article where I got the information about the 5 no-knock warrants:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.courier-journal.com/amp/3467112001

This is from an article summarizing the interview with Mattingly when he describes the events of the night (And references the neighbor who heard them knocking):

“At one point in his interview, Mattingly describes a moment when a neighbor exchanged some words with Brett Hankison, who Interim Chief Robert Schroeder terminated in June. Mattingly told investigators Hankison seemed "worked up," and he tried getting him to relax.”
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wh...view/417-06549281-7240-4ecb-875a-07c726841fea

And here’s another source stating that it was a no-knock warrant but Mattingly was instructed to knock:

“Though the narcotics warrant that police say they were serving at Taylor's door was a so-called no-knock warrant, Mattingly told investigators the officers were instructed to knock on the door.”
https://www.cbs58.com/news/new-audi...nflicting-accounts-of-breonna-taylors-killing

A lot of varying accounts, though the majority of the facts seem to line up. This is far from over (Pending lawsuits and the like) so I’m sure we will keep getting updated information.

**This post was edited on Sep 24th 2020 at 9:00:48pm
 
Didn't read anything in the thread but here's my take: the no knock warrant might be justified in some cases where there's a high probability of escape or in terrorist examples, however do that shit during the day when you can see. Her boyfriend was there and shot a cop in the leg, very much left out of the news, so that's when they opened fire. She was definitely in the wrong place at the wrong time. The charges were determined by a jury with ALL the facts, which we might never know, so I'm deferring on this one. Fucked? Yes. Murder? Absolutely not.
 
14177343:Charlie_Kelly said:
I read The NY Times article, they seem to be the only source saying the no knock warrant was changed. I’ll have to follow up on that.

“Court records show that Louisville police obtained a warrant with a no-knock provision for Taylor's apartment approved by Jefferson Circuit Judge Mary Shaw, though police and prosecutors have said that the officers knocked and announced themselves before breaking down the door.”
https://www.courier-journal.com/sto...-taylor-fact-check-7-rumors-wrong/5326938002/

Here’s a link to the affidavit which breaks down the probable cause police had:
https://reason.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/Breonna-Taylor-search-warrants.pdf

And here is the article where I got the information about the 5 no-knock warrants:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.courier-journal.com/amp/3467112001

This is from an article summarizing the interview with Mattingly when he describes the events of the night (And references the neighbor who heard them knocking):

“At one point in his interview, Mattingly describes a moment when a neighbor exchanged some words with Brett Hankison, who Interim Chief Robert Schroeder terminated in June. Mattingly told investigators Hankison seemed "worked up," and he tried getting him to relax.”
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wh...view/417-06549281-7240-4ecb-875a-07c726841fea

And here’s another source stating that it was a no-knock warrant but Mattingly was instructed to knock:

“Though the narcotics warrant that police say they were serving at Taylor's door was a so-called no-knock warrant, Mattingly told investigators the officers were instructed to knock on the door.”
https://www.cbs58.com/news/new-audi...nflicting-accounts-of-breonna-taylors-killing

A lot of varying accounts, though the majority of the facts seem to line up. This is far from over (Pending lawsuits and the like) so I’m sure we will keep getting updated information.

**This post was edited on Sep 24th 2020 at 9:00:48pm

Yeah, I have varying things from varying newsources. Likely because most news places are reporting other places reporting
 
I have no sympathy for the uniquely american practice of letting cops do whatever the fuck they want and not get in trouble. And im a trump supporter.

i think you could get rid of the 33% of cops who are authority-loving(abusing) assholes and the country would still be a safe place.

If you want to defend your home,

buy a gun and defend your home like a man.

If you need the cops to defend you ur a fucking pussy.
 
14177387:DolanReloaded said:
I have no sympathy for the uniquely american practice of letting cops do whatever the fuck they want and not get in trouble. And im a trump supporter.

i think you could get rid of the 33% of cops who are authority-loving(abusing) assholes and the country would still be a safe place.

If you want to defend your home,

buy a gun and defend your home like a man.

If you need the cops to defend you ur a fucking pussy.

Cops do more than just defend people. They're largely the first on scene to violent crimes and traumas.
 
14177387:DolanReloaded said:
I have no sympathy for the uniquely american practice of letting cops do whatever the fuck they want and not get in trouble. And im a trump supporter.

i think you could get rid of the 33% of cops who are authority-loving(abusing) assholes and the country would still be a safe place.

If you want to defend your home,

buy a gun and defend your home like a man.

If you need the cops to defend you ur a fucking pussy.

Wow dolan I have to say I agree with you on this one. Never thought I'd see the day
 
14177417:ronders_ said:
Wow dolan I have to say I agree with you on this one. Never thought I'd see the day

Most reasonable people find libertarians pretty reasonable even if they arent libertarian themselves. I may be a radical libertarian, but im definitely a libertarian.

And yeah the state of police in the us should look to libertarian utopias like switzerland and czech rep. where police only enforce laws pertaining to robbery and violence.

its like the whole united states is full of ppl who watch CSI and law and order and think the country is crawling with evil criminals who will overthrow the whole country if they dont arrest and imprison as many of these bad people as possible.

of course some people are pieces of shit who deserve to be in jail. But america has per capita the highest incarceration rate in the world by far.

Its ridiculous.
 
[tag=261198]@DolanReloaded[/tag] bro hardo libertarians are far from trump supporters.

Most libertarians are just closet Republicans.
 
14177420:DolanReloaded said:
And yeah the state of police in the us should look to libertarian utopias like switzerland and czech rep. where police only enforce laws pertaining to robbery and violence.

That's factually incorrect, Switzerland does not just enforce laws pertaining to robbery and violence. Top of mind example would be a speeding or parking ticket, very much enforced in Switzerland.

You really need to stop constantly making shit up.
 
Bro this is his life, he has nothing else.

14177426:Monsieur_Patate said:
That's factually incorrect, Switzerland does not just enforce laws pertaining to robbery and violence. Top of mind example would be a speeding or parking ticket, very much enforced in Switzerland.

You really need to stop constantly making shit up.
 
14177361:Lonely said:
Yeah, I have varying things from varying newsources. Likely because most news places are reporting other places reporting

The Courier Journal (which I cited twice) is the most circulated newspaper in Kentucky. They’ve been constantly updating the story. I trust them more than I do a NY Times, Fox, or CNN article (considering a lot of their reporting is “get the story out first, ask questions later”). It is crazy how we may never get the full story but that’s nothing new.
 
What do you get out of supporting cops that kill ppl?

14177487:Charlie_Kelly said:
The Courier Journal (which I cited twice) is the most circulated newspaper in Kentucky. They’ve been constantly updating the story. I trust them more than I do a NY Times, Fox, or CNN article (considering a lot of their reporting is “get the story out first, ask questions later”). It is crazy how we may never get the full story but that’s nothing new.
 
14177110:MiIfHunter said:
fuck off, bootlicker.

have one of your family members get killed by a pig and then tell me that bullshit

i think its time for ppl to start going chicken huntin'


My family are not criminals........nor affiliated with criminals.

so no. No my family has not been killed by a "cop"
 
Cops r dirty

14177504:Stainr said:
My family are not criminals........nor affiliated with criminals.

so no. No my family has not been killed by a "cop"

**This post was edited on Sep 25th 2020 at 12:08:41pm
 
14177507:MiIfHunter said:
They’re called pigs or bacon or fat fuck donut eaters

cops are ass licks and it pirates

YARRR HARRR DEE HARR

You’re a terrible troll... I didn’t know your name was synonym with cop seeing as how you fit the description above.
 
14177243:ronders_ said:
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Jesus, get those loggers some guns.
 
14177650:Poikenz said:
Jesus, get those loggers some guns.

I need a drum mag to defend myself from widowmakers in the field. Those trees won't know what hit them
 
14177127:MiIfHunter said:
police officers are the most insecure, paranoid, scared, schizophremic, pathetic, and unconfident motherfuckers around.

yea, must take one to know one.
 
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