Charlie_Kelly
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14177148:Lonely said:So I looked at some of the stuff again. The warrant was originally signed as a no-knock, then it was changed to a knock and announce not long before the warrant was served. According to the New York Times that interviewed some neighbors, a few said they did not announce and a couple said that they did. The AG confirmed that they announced with only one witness. Surprised they did not bring more in, at least that I heard about. All cops should have body cams. I do not understand why some departments are against them. They would do more to help officers than hurt them. Especially when it appears there was some false reporting by the police in the actual report. Intentional or not it really doesn't help their case.
It still blows my mind that someone who was in there home, late at night, and did not shoot at police was shot and killed by police and not even a manslaughter charge was brought forward. It scares me as a gun owner, that using my firearms to defend myself could easily get me killed.
I mean, look at these two cases.
In case one, the man answers the door with his gun, sees the police, and gets down on his knees while waist banding his firearm, which I believe he owned legally.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...an-shot-dead-cop-answering-door-gun-hand.html
In the second case, a woman was shot dead by a rookie cop who was scared of her dog
https://www.fox4news.com/news/ex-ar...d-for-killing-woman-while-trying-to-shoot-dog
People can argue it is a high-stress job but the fact of the matter is that there needs to be an entire system overhaul. People who aren't committing crimes shouldn't have to fear getting shot and killed by police. The number of people we should be okay with dying that way is 0. There needs to be more accountability so we don't have to deal with cases like this. If one of my old roommates went to prison, I shouldn't have to fear that my life will be ended while doing nothing wrong by poorly trained cops.
I read The NY Times article, they seem to be the only source saying the no knock warrant was changed. I’ll have to follow up on that.
“Court records show that Louisville police obtained a warrant with a no-knock provision for Taylor's apartment approved by Jefferson Circuit Judge Mary Shaw, though police and prosecutors have said that the officers knocked and announced themselves before breaking down the door.”
https://www.courier-journal.com/sto...-taylor-fact-check-7-rumors-wrong/5326938002/
Here’s a link to the affidavit which breaks down the probable cause police had:
https://reason.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/Breonna-Taylor-search-warrants.pdf
And here is the article where I got the information about the 5 no-knock warrants:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.courier-journal.com/amp/3467112001
This is from an article summarizing the interview with Mattingly when he describes the events of the night (And references the neighbor who heard them knocking):
“At one point in his interview, Mattingly describes a moment when a neighbor exchanged some words with Brett Hankison, who Interim Chief Robert Schroeder terminated in June. Mattingly told investigators Hankison seemed "worked up," and he tried getting him to relax.”
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wh...view/417-06549281-7240-4ecb-875a-07c726841fea
And here’s another source stating that it was a no-knock warrant but Mattingly was instructed to knock:
“Though the narcotics warrant that police say they were serving at Taylor's door was a so-called no-knock warrant, Mattingly told investigators the officers were instructed to knock on the door.”
https://www.cbs58.com/news/new-audi...nflicting-accounts-of-breonna-taylors-killing
A lot of varying accounts, though the majority of the facts seem to line up. This is far from over (Pending lawsuits and the like) so I’m sure we will keep getting updated information.
**This post was edited on Sep 24th 2020 at 9:00:48pm