Big mountain skiing is for old heads

if you ski big mountain as a young buck you are wasting your life away. real men slam hard in the park until they can literally only ski pow.
 
with the introduction of foam pits/air bags/water jumps, i think it has deterred some people from pursuing park without access to this facilities. likewise, with events like fwt becoming popular it really makes big mountain feel more attainable than park skiing for the average joe
 
“everybody wanna be a bodybuilder, don’t nobody wanna lift heavy ass weights!”

[video]https://youtu.be/5i5jGU9wn2M?si=p6dJJottcfnC6skV[/video]same goes for both freeride and freestyle.

I see freeriders lining up their 8-15 footers when theres a foot of new snow. But they disappear by 2pm.

and everyone wants to be a freestyler but don’t nobody wanna throw no goddamn trick!!! How many times have we been in the park with friends that ski everyday and they say “ima take it easy today” everyday. How many of you haven’t corked yet even tho you already have been skiing for over 4 years?

every sport can be judged like this its easy. Shallow thread
https://youtube.com/shorts/qq_t1_0-gfs?si=pF0mgaaRESsXlBPr

**This post was edited on Jan 12th 2024 at 9:46:46am
 
14579906:partyandBS said:
with the introduction of foam pits/air bags/water jumps, i think it has deterred some people from pursuing park without access to this facilities. likewise, with events like fwt becoming popular it really makes big mountain feel more attainable than park skiing for the average joe

I 100% agree with this statement but lets be real if ur only skiing park to go pro ur a loser anyways the whole essence of park riding is about doing your own thing and making cool vids.

**This post was edited on Jan 12th 2024 at 10:13:20am
 
14579910:b0ss said:
“everybody wanna be a bodybuilder, don’t nobody wanna lift heavy ass weights!”

[video]https://youtu.be/5i5jGU9wn2M?si=p6dJJottcfnC6skV[/video]same goes for both freeride and freestyle.

I see freeriders lining up their 8-15 footers when theres a foot of new snow. But they disappear by 2pm.

and everyone wants to be a freestyler but don’t nobody wanna throw no goddamn trick!!! How many times have we been in the park with friends that ski everyday and they say “ima take it easy today” everyday. How many of you haven’t corked yet even tho you already have been skiing for over 4 years?

every sport can be judged like this its easy. Shallow thread
https://youtube.com/shorts/qq_t1_0-gfs?si=pF0mgaaRESsXlBPr

**This post was edited on Jan 12th 2024 at 9:46:46am

Some people don’t wanna eat shit and I don’t blame them, I would never judge someone negatively for not pushing themselves or not corking or some shit. Plus u don’t need to go off axis to have sick jump game tbh.

I only judge peoples videos if their intent is to create actual good content. If ur unreal at skiing and your 5 min edit sucks you just wasted my time, its like watching a bad movie or something but if you’re just having fun the context and how I react to it is totally different
 
14579928:johnblaze said:
Tell me you suck at skiing without telling me you suck at skiing.

a good park skier will make an infinitely better big mountain skier than a big mountain skier will make a park skier. look at the transition of literally every park skier ever going to big mountain and doing it way better than any "strictly big mountain skier". you can learn proper ski technique way faster than you can learn shit in the park, kid.
 
14579977:DollaStoreHumper said:
a good park skier will make an infinitely better big mountain skier than a big mountain skier will make a park skier. look at the transition of literally every park skier ever going to big mountain and doing it way better than any "strictly big mountain skier". you can learn proper ski technique way faster than you can learn shit in the park, kid.

IMO most of the best skiers haven't really defined themselves as strictly either for the majority of their careers. The greats like Candide and THall have been doing both since like, 2000? And for the record both of those guys started out in moguls lol
 
all mountain skiing is for pure kooks. If I don't see people digging out features and lining up for the rope tow park on this epic snow weekend I am gonna be disappointed
 
14580011:IsaacNW82 said:
IMO most of the best skiers haven't really defined themselves as strictly either for the majority of their careers. The greats like Candide and THall have been doing both since like, 2000? And for the record both of those guys started out in moguls lol

go look at my original post idiot. thall is skiing only backcountry now cause he's a fucking old head and if he hits a park jump his knees and robo ankles will disintegrate. as a young buck he threw down in the park and street, and now as a grown ass man he skis pow. that's proper. he learned shit in the park and moguls (i would argue moguls are basically the park with extra steps) and took it to the backcountry and threw down some of the dopest shit ever. candide is an anomaly, and respect to the goat, but he also was learning tricks in the shit park before going to big mountain bullshit or whatever.
 
Ronnie's the greatest bodybuilder, but being barely able to walk in his 50s sounds pretty miserable. Probably not the right guy to emulate

14579910:b0ss said:
“everybody wanna be a bodybuilder, don’t nobody wanna lift heavy ass weights!”

[video]https://youtu.be/5i5jGU9wn2M?si=p6dJJottcfnC6skV[/video]same goes for both freeride and freestyle.

I see freeriders lining up their 8-15 footers when theres a foot of new snow. But they disappear by 2pm.

and everyone wants to be a freestyler but don’t nobody wanna throw no goddamn trick!!! How many times have we been in the park with friends that ski everyday and they say “ima take it easy today” everyday. How many of you haven’t corked yet even tho you already have been skiing for over 4 years?

every sport can be judged like this its easy. Shallow thread
https://youtube.com/shorts/qq_t1_0-gfs?si=pF0mgaaRESsXlBPr

**This post was edited on Jan 12th 2024 at 9:46:46am
 
14580017:DollaStoreHumper said:
go look at my original post idiot. thall is skiing only backcountry now cause he's a fucking old head and if he hits a park jump his knees and robo ankles will disintegrate. as a young buck he threw down in the park and street, and now as a grown ass man he skis pow. that's proper. he learned shit in the park and moguls (i would argue moguls are basically the park with extra steps) and took it to the backcountry and threw down some of the dopest shit ever. candide is an anomaly, and respect to the goat, but he also was learning tricks in the shit park before going to big mountain bullshit or whatever.

You clearly don’t know what thall is doing right now. If you watched his movie he was hitting 7s, landing flat and sliding rails in the street. Plus doing a quad backie, and even if it was into power, it was fucking big. And power can’t magically save your knees from the whole impact.
 
14580017:DollaStoreHumper said:
go look at my original post idiot. thall is skiing only backcountry now cause he's a fucking old head and if he hits a park jump his knees and robo ankles will disintegrate. as a young buck he threw down in the park and street, and now as a grown ass man he skis pow. that's proper. he learned shit in the park and moguls (i would argue moguls are basically the park with extra steps) and took it to the backcountry and threw down some of the dopest shit ever. candide is an anomaly, and respect to the goat, but he also was learning tricks in the shit park before going to big mountain bullshit or whatever.

lol tanners last two posts are hitting street in one and park in the other. Also there is a difference between big mountain skiing and building backcountry booters and freeride. Its pretty rare to see more than a 3 or back flip on the fwt and you can be a badass skier only knowing those two tricks.

I'd love to see a team big mountain comp of ex racers vs ex park skiers lol
 
14580042:Rock_Inhabitant said:
You clearly don’t know what thall is doing right now. If you watched his movie he was hitting 7s, landing flat and sliding rails in the street. Plus doing a quad backie, and even if it was into power, it was fucking big. And power can’t magically save your knees from the whole impact.

yeah and in 10 years he isn't gonna put out "L" where he's still hitting street shit and throwing down, he's gonna be 50 fucking years old making dad turns in pow and slamming into trees he's trying to gap IN THE BACKCOUNTRY OR ALL MOUNTAIN. also his quadback was bath tubbed to shit and didn't even ride out. if it wasn't quad no one would count that shit cause he just fell on his back and somehow life alerted his way back to his feet.
 
14580046:AndrewGravesSV said:
lol tanners last two posts are hitting street in one and park in the other. Also there is a difference between big mountain skiing and building backcountry booters and freeride. Its pretty rare to see more than a 3 or back flip on the fwt and you can be a badass skier only knowing those two tricks.

I'd love to see a team big mountain comp of ex racers vs ex park skiers lol

bro these mother fuckers are deploying dub backflips like its a barbarian in clash of clans, common as fuck.
 
Max Palm threw the first ever double backflip on the FWT in 2022. Even 720s are still really rare. A rodeo or flat 3 is more than enough to win if it's part of a great line.

14580048:DollaStoreHumper said:
bro these mother fuckers are deploying dub backflips like its a barbarian in clash of clans, common as fuck.
 
14580052:SlushSeason said:
Max Palm threw the first ever double backflip on the FWT in 2022. Even 720s are still really rare. A rodeo or flat 3 is more than enough to win if it's part of a great line.

dawg the fwt is new as hell, no shit it took until last year for a real athlete to be in it and throw some cool shit
 
14580052:SlushSeason said:
Max Palm threw the first ever double backflip on the FWT in 2022. Even 720s are still really rare. A rodeo or flat 3 is more than enough to win if it's part of a great line.

exactly, plus we're glossing over the fact that you gotta do it first try without any test hits. shit is insane
 
ok this shit's gone off the rails. my point is that for the average skier throwing down in the park when their young as fuck is the move, then moving to backcountry and other big mountain shit should be the method. none of you fucks are going to the X-Games or FWT so shut the fuck up with the "pro athlete did this, pro athlete did that" cause it's not even relevant to 100% of newschoolers posters.
 
also if you don't think charging alta/snowbird/jackson hole/palisades etc is just as hard on your body as park you're delusional. honestly it's more exhausting...
 
14580061:J_Steez said:
also if you don't think charging alta/snowbird/jackson hole/palisades etc is just as hard on your body as park you're delusional. honestly it's more exhausting...

yeah but dudes who just charge in alta/snowbird/jh/palisades etc could be doing way sicker tricks instead of just pointing 'em in the fall line. don't get me wrong its fun to charge, but you can learn to charge way easier than you can learn lots of tricks in the park. Way more likely that you'll be old and still able to charge through shit than old and able to still throw down in the park. Will it be hard on your body? yes, but not as hard as eating shit in the park over and over while trying to learn shit.
 
14580063:DollaStoreHumper said:
yeah but dudes who just charge in alta/snowbird/jh/palisades etc could be doing way sicker tricks instead of just pointing 'em in the fall line. don't get me wrong its fun to charge, but you can learn to charge way easier than you can learn lots of tricks in the park. Way more likely that you'll be old and still able to charge through shit than old and able to still throw down in the park. Will it be hard on your body? yes, but not as hard as eating shit in the park over and over while trying to learn shit.

i think you're right where the way is to learn a ton of tricks early in the park when youre made of rubber but also youre discounting the fact that going really fucking fast is cool. For a lot of skiers its dope if you can do tricks but the real dick measuring contest is who can get down the fastest and go the biggest. Plus the faster you go the more skiing you can do.
 
14580017:DollaStoreHumper said:
go look at my original post idiot. thall is skiing only backcountry now cause he's a fucking old head and if he hits a park jump his knees and robo ankles will disintegrate. as a young buck he threw down in the park and street, and now as a grown ass man he skis pow. that's proper. he learned shit in the park and moguls (i would argue moguls are basically the park with extra steps) and took it to the backcountry and threw down some of the dopest shit ever. candide is an anomaly, and respect to the goat, but he also was learning tricks in the shit park before going to big mountain bullshit or whatever.

Yea pretty much none of what you said about Tanner is true, he was doing dubs on park jumps last year and there are clips of him skiing big Alaskan faces from as far back as 2003.

FWIW I agree that park skills carry over to freeride more naturally than vice versa, but my main argument here is that more people than you think (pro or not) mess around with both, and to those who don't: why not? Are freeriders really missing out on anything if they session a pre-season rail? When you get a few feet of fresh, is struggling to get speed on jumps and digging out rails really more worth it than sending some natural stuff?
 
Park skiing was born from boredom / the skateboarding influence of the 90s. And nowadays the places where people continue to ski park (mostly) is where there is no big mountain to begin with and that’s their only option.

I grew up skiing pretty much only park on a 300ft vert hill in the east and now that I live out west, why the fuck wouldn’t I go hit cliffs and chutes when the snow allows for it? That’s real skiing and the predecessor of terrain parks anyways. Park is for the spring or periods between storms when all the upper mountain shit is rock solid.

If you only know how to ski fast and rip big mountain lines, you’re a good skier. If you only know park tricks and look like a kook making real turns, are you actually a good skier?
 
14580055:DollaStoreHumper said:
dawg the fwt is new as hell, no shit it took until last year for a real athlete to be in it and throw some cool shit

dude the fwt has being around for like 30 years. pipe down
 
14580099:officechair said:
Is big mountain skiing just regular skiing on a mountain? Someone help me out.

big mountain is a place in Montana. the renamed the ski area Whitefish Mountain Resort in 2007
 
Don't fully agree with OP but it is a fact that a lot more skiers transition from park/street to pow/backcountry/touring as they get older, rather than the reverse. There's a reason why that's the case. Big respect for people who are good at both.
 
All your arguments have been stupid and people should ski what they want but I agree that this seems the most fun way to do it. At skiing as a dad seems hype

14580063:DollaStoreHumper said:
yeah but dudes who just charge in alta/snowbird/jh/palisades etc could be doing way sicker tricks instead of just pointing 'em in the fall line. don't get me wrong its fun to charge, but you can learn to charge way easier than you can learn lots of tricks in the park. Way more likely that you'll be old and still able to charge through shit than old and able to still throw down in the park. Will it be hard on your body? yes, but not as hard as eating shit in the park over and over while trying to learn shit.
 
14580319:Clark456 said:
All your arguments have been stupid and people should ski what they want but I agree that this seems the most fun way to do it. At skiing as a dad seems hype

Dear Clark 456,

Thank you for your reply, while agree that many of my points have been rooted in baseless facts, I appreciate your admission that my proposed form of skiing may be the most enjoyable. Hope to see you up on the hill soon shredding park laps and slamming hard until you reach a ripe old age and can get pow turns in and send cliffs with your groms.

Much love and best wishes,

DMoney
 
14580322:DollaStoreHumper said:
Dear Clark 456,

Thank you for your reply, while agree that many of my points have been rooted in baseless facts, I appreciate your admission that my proposed form of skiing may be the most enjoyable. Hope to see you up on the hill soon shredding park laps and slamming hard until you reach a ripe old age and can get pow turns in and send cliffs with your groms.

Much love and best wishes,

DMoney

wait. shouldn’t his groms be slamming in the park?
 
I’m ‘old’ and I love riding the park. I’ve even had a couple days this season where I just hiked rails. I’m still learning new combos and tricks while waiting for the fun snow to arrive
 
All i'm gonna say is, for any skier either park or big mountain: let me see how you ski moguls. Then we can talk about whether you know how to ski or not.
 
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