when i had my mini, the battery would freeze up and lose all its life in about 5 minutes if it was -5 or colder which sucked. now i have a shuffle and love it, its industructable, light and cheap. all i put on it is my ski playlist so it holds enough for me. also if it falls out of your pocket, its so light it stays attatched to your headphones so its pretty much impossible to lose it.