I think they still are a very noticeable company, pretty much 1/3 of the skiers at my mountain ride Armada, 1/3 rides Line, and the other 1/3 rides other skis. They have some of the best skis out there right now and are a very legit company. As for their riders...do you really think of Phil Casabon (who is in the slopestyle finals at X right now) and Mike Hornbeck as AMs? I mean even their National team is ill with Ian Provo, Chris Turpin, Sean Logan, Taylor Seaton (who was supposed to compete in Pipe tonight, but had to pull out due to injury), Zach Davison, and Riley Leboe. They structure their team very differently, but it really doesn't matter what "team" their on cause they're all killing it. I think they are still one of the best companies out their right now.