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american beer rating sites pumping the tires of american breweries....

bro, story, cool.
 
^ not to mention that anyone with an email address can sign up for an account on either of those websites and review beers.

did you happen to click on any of the reviewers (site members) names?

coincidently, the first 10 i clicked at random were american citizens.
 
i love how typically ignorant and uninformed american you are.

UR #1

atleast in your own eyes.

im going to go wash down my whale blubber sandwhich with a nice cold piss water canadian beer.
 
First of all that's the point, anyone and everyone can rate the beers which not only creates a wide range of beer tastes and preferences in the reviewers but also people with varying degrees of beer "experience" in my opinion this only enhances the legitimacy of these lists.

and yes, the majority of the reviewers are american, so what? Americans have access to more types of beer from more places on earth than almost any other country. Your favorite canadian beer didn't make this list because Americans decided to rate it low due to some sort of nationalistic duty it was rated low because it just isn't that good.

 
ah, gotcha.

so a bunch of people with no background or understanding of what they are talking about meet on a website and rate beers and this list is supposed to be taken as credible?

Thats like using wikipedia to write your thesis.

lets get real here.

you think american beer is better. cool, i get it.

i think canadian beer is better. cool.

not that youll ever admit it, but Canada has much more strict food and beverage quality control laws.

quality ingrediants = quality products.

The biggest problem, is molson, coors and sleeman are our largest breweries. they have world famous commercials. people see these commercials and think every single canadian drinks canadian, except for canadians.

moosehead is our fourth largest macrobrewery. ever had a moosehead? i highly fuckin doubt it.

and yes, ill completely agree, americans do have access to more types of beer, they also produce and distribute more types of beer. however popularity does not equal quality.

you wont find moosehead on any american run beer "rating" website despite them controlling 15%!! of the canadian market with a single product.

not because its not good, but because its unfuckinheard of.

how do you rate something you have never heard of let alone tasted?

you dont.
 
Well i'm not going to talk about the website anymore because it doesn't really matter. But i will say this, if you would actually take a look at the sites i think you would find them a lot more credible than you do now.

also,http://www.ratebeer.com/brewers/moosehead-brewery/41/

And i'm also going to leave this here
http://www.worldbeercup.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/WBC12-Winners-List1.pdf

your argument about canadians having better food and beverage control holds little relevance in this matter since pretty much every microbrewery in the world is using the best ingredients possible to make the highest quality beer possible in order to stand out in such a small market.

I don't really know where you are going with the rest of your post but i think you've made one thing clear in this thread. You've had very little exposure to american micro brews because you're holding onto this old belief that americans do not and cannot make a good beer. Hell, for the most part we are at the forefront of the beer industry nowadays. With many brewers in Europe looking towards the U.S. for inspiration.

Canada makes some great beers but don't dismiss a beer just because it's from america. Do some research. drink some beers. I would be kind of interested to know what beers you do like from America.

 
Moosehead? Thats the brewery you choose to represent canada because you think its "unfuckingheard" of? fucking moosehead??

You can't swing your dick in a decent packy without it hitting a bottle from them...

you're a fucking joke

moosehead....unheard of...hahahahahahaha
 


so youre not

going to talk about the website because it doesn’t really matter? yet you

brought it up in the first place. Then you reference the same site again, plus

a new one. but the sites dont matter??

i did actually take a look at the sites. hence how i knew they were american.

hence how i knew the "Critics" aka site members were american. hence

how i came to the conclusion that anyone with an email address can

"critique" a beer, which on ratebeer.com is practically just voting

for your fav.

just because i dont agree with you, doesn’t mean i didn’t "actually take a

look at the sites".

my argument about canadians having better food and beverage control holds a ton

of relevance in this matter if you could look at it from a civil understanding,

and not a close minded "competition like" view.

its not a knock, its a fact. we have higher and more demanding federal laws

regarding food and beverage processing and ingredients. Therefore the products

produced in canada are TYPICALLY of higher quality production and final

product. again, not always the case, but typically.

i would love to know how you have any merit claiming that microbrew's use the

best ingredients possible? i think youre making an awfully vast assumption just

because it is a niche market. a lot of premium or premier products are sold and

labelled that way just to appeal to a different market. It does not necessarily

mean the best materials or ingredients were used in the manufacturing process.

You know exactly where i was going with the rest of my post, which is exactly

why you didnt answer my question. Moosehead is canadas 4th largest brewery.

have you ever had a moosehead?

im going to guess you have not, and thats just a guess, i could be wrong.

However if you have not had a moosehead, im fairly comfortable in saying you

probably also have not tried any of canadas microbrews.

and for the record, ive actually had quite an exposure to not just the american

beer market, but the world. If were going to swing dicks here why not make it

count? My girlfriend of 6 years is a professional fromagerie and practicing sommelier.

i dated her the entire time she was studying and continue to do so now that she

is employed full time. does that make ME an expert? of course not, but i can

promise you i have been to more beer/wine samplings, tastings, breweries,

microbreweries, festivals, product launches etc etc etc than the average bear.

I also happen to live in toronto, which is home to the most breweries in

canada. In fact i live within about a 5 minute drive from:

denisons,

black oak, bellwoods, great lakes brewery, amsterdam, cest what, mill street,

indie ale house, granite, steam whistle, cheshire valley, cameron's, colo,

spearhead, beer academy, three brewers, black creek historic, kensington, saint

andre, cool brewing, old credit, trafalgar, molson, labatts, junction etc..

most of these breweres i can walk to in under 20mins.

and thats just the main ones in torono that youll find in a typical lcbo,

nevermind all of ontario. which if i were to make an educated guess, is home to

another 100+ breweries atleast.

Oh, and while i was studying downtown i worked partime in a bar. Look it up,

its called Rhino. It has a rolodex of 200+ beers from something like 40

different countries, all bottles. again, just guessing, but if you count the

consistently rotated taps there has got to be 300 different beers, easy. as i

mentioned before, none of this makes me an expert, but i love beer.

Whats funny though, is within everything i wrote throughout this thread i never

once said that americans do not and can not make a good beer.

not once did i say that.

america can make great beer.

unfortunatly though, im my opinion, they make way way way way more shitty beer

than good beer.

again, i would love to know where you read that brewers in europe look towards

the states for inspiration?

They have belgium and germany, i dont think they need any help.

canada does make some great beers, especially for our population size.

america also makes some great beers, but you damn well better for a country

your size.

i think you have made one thing clear in this thread, and that is that you

think im just some dumb little canadian who wears a toque all year round and

hates the states cause im "jelly" of their girth.

You have the same predetermined opinion of me being a toothless hockey player

who lives in a igloo as i do of you being a southern inbred slackjaw yokel.

i have drank some beers, i have done some research. Dont assume that just

because i dont agree with you means that i dont know what the F im talking

about.

i would be kind of interested to know what canadian beers you have even HAD,

let alone enjoy.

·

 
pipe down kid.

my point was that for being canadas 4th largest brewery, its pretty fuckin small.

are you even old enough to drink beers legally??
 
bartender at sunset grill and tap for almost 4 years during and slightly after graduating college..I've probably forgotten more about beer then you've ever learned

100+ taps, nearly 400 different bottles and a beer menu that would give you vertigo

Not sure why youre alll about moosehead again - talking shit about moosehead isn't something to be proud about

I'm a fan of tons of Canadian brew - I'd drink a unibroue 7 days a week and twice on sunday if possible but you sound like the biggest douche alive trying to act superior about a countries microbreweries when the U.S. has an approximate metric fuck ton of amazing brewers

Dropping this pic again, maybe you'll come to your senses

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hmm, i doubt that. seeing as how there is a very likely chance ive got a few years on you, and i started legally drinking at 19, not 21.

im not all about moosehead, it was an example.

between you and i, im not even a huge fan of moosehead. their cracked canoe is awesome though.

i sound like the biggest douche alive because i dissagree with you?? makes sense.

yes, i saw your pic the first time. lots = better, right??
 
lol.

i love how this site works.

you state your opinion through logical reasoning and experience and get called out for "caring far too much".

im not embarrassed kanadianbacon, should i be?

whats embarrassing is through everything written in this thread, thats what you choose to contribute.

way to use that brain power you got there kid.
 
I can't say that I like beer, at all, but, I admire your persistence. A good argument reinforced by solid information, and you know when people resort to insults, they are normally at the point of defeat, without accepting it for themselves. You have my vote of confidence and respect from a debate about "beer" hahaha. +K for you my friend. Also, the fact that you are Canadian probably helps, but meh, bias is inevitable.
 
Look at the fucking websites.

The first ones I picked are for reasons I have already

explained. Although according to you since these people don’t rate beer for a

living and most are from America

their opinions are invalid. Fine, but I can tell you that if you would look at

the site these people take beer very seriously and in general offer some very

valid opinions and critiques. Literally any beer that you can think of is

listed on that site which goes to show how big and diverse the site is. This

site creates its best of list through the interpretation of every reviewer of

almost every beer imaginable. In my opinion it is the ultimate list.

I referenced the site

again after reading this in your last post. “you won’t find Moosehead on any American

run beer “rating” website despite them controlling 15% of the Canadian market

with a single product” Well there you go.

I put down that second link because it is the 2012 results

from the world beer cup which is a major international beer competition. You

seemed to have a hard on for professional judging well here it is, and the

results are the same. But I guess you didn't look at that link either.

To my claim that most microbreweries use the best products

possible, yes that is an assumption although I don’t think it’s an outrageous

one.

“It’s not a matter of personal opinion

it’s a matter of professional opinion

Look up any annual world beer rating list.

Canada, Belgium, Germany, all almost lead the way.

America,

no where to be found.

And these lists are compiled by professional brewers, beer

tasters, and sommelier’s…

Not your average 18 year old on NS

The only people that defend American breweries are, get

this, Americans.”

it was this post that really set me off. It’s just so

completely wrong that I couldn't help but assume you didn't know what you are

talking about. And I’m still not so sure you do in regards to American beer. Not

to mention you still seem to be under the impression that we don’t get Canadian

beers down here. I grew up in Vermont and spent

a fair amount of time in Michigan and the PNW

and I can tell you Canadian beer is represented fairly in the United States. Although most of the time you’re getting what’s produced directly north

of you which can be a pain sometimes.

Phillips brewing, Central City, Half Pints, and Bellwoods are

all great canadian breweries. But there are 10 breweries just as good in the U.S. for each one in Canada. Everything you wrote about toronto can be said about any decent sized city in america.

Here’s an article I found about European brewers looking at

the U.S.

for inspiration. Granted it's brewers who are looking to copy the north american microbrewery concept and not the more traditional brewers who already have their niche

http://www.latitudenews.com/story/us-craft-beers-gain-fans-in-europe/
 
Every time I've travelled down to the States (Washington, Oregon, Cali) they have been the nicest most genuine people I have ever talked to and I've come to the conclusion based on the Americans that I've met experiences in Canada (B.C.) that we treat them as well as they treat as and it all reciprocates.
 
I have only one real prejudice towards Canadians. That being they love to say" well we are not as bad as the Americans". My times in the couvre and Whistler. They are great people. They seem like PNW ers to me

And the ones down here are nice and i try be very nice to them. My only bad time involving a Canadian was last January. I was in Sydney with my family. We were on the boat from Manley to Sydney. And my mother and i were up front talking and man came up and said. " ah so nice to se fellow Canadians". I said sorry sir. I am an American

He then proceded to accost me verbally. And i snapped and said some mean shit. And he stormed off. I think it may have been Scott.
 
Do you know Melanie?

And really with THAT discerning of a palette you'd drink Unibroue 7 days a week? I mean it's a decent brewery but it's definitely middle of the road.

 
Then you don't listen carefully enough, or your used to it, or your say it your self with out realizing it. Fact is I went to college in the U.p of Michigan, which is a stones throw from the boarder. And everyone up there said aboot, same goes for most of canada, except for quebec.

 
Then you don't listen carefully enough, or your used to it, or your say it your self with out realizing it. Fact is I went to college in the U.p of Michigan, which is a stones throw from the boarder. And everyone up there said aboot, same goes for most of canada, except for quebec.

 
Drank beer all over the world...... And it's pretty much same shit different pile. Sorry guys...... Micros are pretty awesome everywhere. Big batch is pretty shit everywhere. I am a fan of Fin Du Monde, and Trois Pistole..... But some of that New Belgium stuff is pretty fucking tasty.

I will say this though people from the south are weak as fuck. Jesus you guys can't handle weather.
 
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