A Letter to My Former Priest

well then you are a fucking kook if you would prefer to kill them instead of just not getting pregnant in the first place when you know that you don't want kids...

people even abort now because of undesired gender which is cool for some i guess...
 
So true, what I really disagree with is people who turn up to church once a week and then go home and do not live as they should and call themselves Christian. Put it this way if you sit in your garage for two hours a sunday does that make you a car? No, no more so than sitting in a church for two hours a sunday does that make you a Christian. Christian means like Christ or little Christs, so if you're going to call yourself Christian live like one.
 
i completely despise christianity, but live probably pretty christian. apart from this whole "love god/jesus" horsecrap, i try to help people whenever i can, be nice to everybody and try to make others smile.

if you need a religion to be nice to others, no problem. most important is that you are trying to make this world a better place. obviously there are macro-issues that noone of us can change, but we all have an influence on how the people in our direct environment feel every single day.
 
so when does an embryo turn into a baby? at what point in time does abortion turn into manslaughter/murder? are post-birth abortions ok?

 
You're a fucking asshole. There are VERY convincing arguments both for and against abortion which have nothing to do with religion. Quit acting like there is some huge consensus and the other side of the argument is just making shit up. This isn't global warming.
 
i'm confused... people don't die because of "Republicancare," they die because they sustain a fatal injury or succumb to a lethal illness... if they are close to death and they show up at the ER, they will be cared for as well as possible and will figure out their finiancial issues later.
 
liked this, did you get a response? it's amazing to think that of all organizations the Catholic church is trying to feel persecuted, a simple look at history shows that the catholic church was probably one of the greater or greatest perpetrators of manipulation, persecution, violence, ignorance, etc...
 
people die because they get old, smoke cigs or eat food that is fucking horrible for them.

2 leading causes of death in america are heart disease and cancer(lung). No healthcare system will fix this. Regulations on what people can put in food and cigarettes may help though...to much money in that bullshit though to make the change there.
 
Stubbornness or dogma to be more precise is a human characteristic that is not exclusive or more prevalent in 'religious people'.

The conventional wisdom of theology tells us that ethics is all to be gained from religion. Atheists are content with this and respect that. They fail to acknowledge there was any reasoning behind the ethical intentions and resort to there Utilitarianism. There is so much more to religion than ethics and crazy absurd stories. Those stories attempt to reason with questions science can not answer. Of course the Christians, the Muslims, the Buddhists, the Jewish, and Tao are not willing to change their ideas because they see their reasoning suitable for their questions.

I am not trying to push agnosticism on anyone, or self judgment. I just want you to think and question your beliefs and how you define terms such as Faith, Justice, Piety, or whatever you may overlook
 
nope. the hospital is obligated to provide care, so they will do everything they can to save your life regardless of your financial situation.
 
He is a bit of an asshole, but mostly just uneducated. Trust me, he is a kid that works at my local mountain who is just too young to know jack shit so don't jump to conclusions and get offended.
 
Sorry, but I believe you need to start giving less of a fuck and stop wasting time on shit like this. Like seriously, what to you expect is going to come out of this letter, maybe a little self-satisfaction and a smirk? like get real, there are much larger problems in the world so shut the fuck up and tell me when you do something useful.
 
Thougth it was well written letter. However, when the founding fathers are described as diest, it is more a discriptive of that they had no single set standard as to their belifs or ideals of God and religion rather than the traditional diest belif (God as some mystic being that cannot be understood and is a noninterfering entity). Really the only of the founding fathers that could be described under the definition of modern diesm (and even a stretch at that) would be Thomas Jefferson. He believed Jesus to be more or less the most enlightened philosopher to ever live (look up the Jefferson Bible). However, even Jefferson would be described as closer to Unitarist.

The majority of the founding fathers however belonged to Congregationalist, fundamentalist, or some form of the Protestant movement.
 
Just because he called the other guy an asshole, doesn't mean you aren't one too. You are acting as if there is one clean cut side to this as well, which is 'we shouldn't kill babies.' You are doing the exact same thing the other guy did.

You are here implying that those who think abortion is pretty much always justified are uneducated.
 
Not at all. If you look at the other abortion thread you'll see that I also believe in freedom of choice. The option should be available but if people decide they do want to terminate then they should be educated enough to know what they are actually doing lol. He is uneducated because he is a kid that could not make sense of things and called me a moron. His stance on abortion had nothing to do with it, sorry if that's how it looks but I'm definitely not a bigot like that kid.
 
what the catholic church is protesting is that they can not get an exemption to not provide contraception and abortions under obamacare because they are not considered a church because they employee people that are not catholic.

I am against obamacare as whole for political reasons, but I dont get what the big deal is. The church is against contraception, birth control, and abortion. Why make them provide it to its employees? why would the writers of this not consider that.

I think you misunderstood the priest's message also.
 
Did you miss the entire debate revolving around this topic? The whole "woman have trouble paying for birth control because its expensive, but some woman need it for things beyond birth control" controversy? Thats the reason for why they are making them provide it. Its not completely unwarranted. (not saying disagree or agree)

Regardless of how you feel with the final outcome of the issue, I don't think you can claim the writers of this bill didn't consider the fact the catholic church opposed this. They just thought other concerns outweighed.
 
You make them provide it to their employees because a woman should never have to quit her job because her boss doesn't like the care she needs.
 
This is what you idiots don't get. Do you have a health insurance plan? Do you pay taxes? You're already paying for somebody's healthcare when they make poor health choices. People pay for your healthcare when you make poor health choices. Like getting injured skiing for example. That's the idea of insurance...everybody pays into the pot and withdraws from it when they need it.
 
If its more than a page long, its not worth my time. Sounds to me like you wasted yours writing it, then posting it here.
 
The actual cost of your healthcare is significantly higher than your deductible. That's where the insurance i.e. other people's money comes in. The money you pay periodically to your health insurance agency goes to pay for other people's healthcare costs. There ya go. Also, if you pay taxes then you pay for Medicare/Medicaid which goes to pay for other peoples healthcare regardless of what kind of health decisions they're making.
 
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