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14607128:VTshredder69 said:
stop crying that the wealthy don't pay their fair share of taxes then please.

I mean isn't the argument that they essentially live off loans bankrolled on their massive holdings and assets and essentially have 0 taxable income?

We aren't talking about your local neurosurgeon here pulling in 1.5 mil a year. Were talking billionaires who "make zero" right? That's what miffs people off
 
14607494:profa_212 said:
I mean isn't the argument that they essentially live off loans bankrolled on their massive holdings and assets and essentially have 0 taxable income?

We aren't talking about your local neurosurgeon here pulling in 1.5 mil a year. Were talking billionaires who "make zero" right? That's what miffs people off

Name one example of that? Because that's a complete lie. You think Mark Cuban or bill gates paid 0$ in taxes? That's a media lie thats been perpetuated by socialist bullshit.

Mark Cuban is ‘proud to pay’ $275.9 million in taxes: 'It’s crazy and unreal in so many ways' (msn.com)

How Much Do Amazon's Bezos, Tesla's Musk Actually Pay in Taxes? (gizmodo.com)

So because they paid below their respective tax rate, they're "miffing" people off. THey're still paying hundreds of millions.

Miss me with that bullshit

it's poor people who don't pay taxes. Like skiierman
 
14607509:VTshredder69 said:
Name one example of that? Because that's a complete lie. You think Mark Cuban or bill gates paid 0$ in taxes? That's a media lie thats been perpetuated by socialist bullshit.

Mark Cuban is ‘proud to pay’ $275.9 million in taxes: 'It’s crazy and unreal in so many ways' (msn.com)

How Much Do Amazon's Bezos, Tesla's Musk Actually Pay in Taxes? (gizmodo.com)

So because they paid below their respective tax rate, they're "miffing" people off. THey're still paying hundreds of millions.

Miss me with that bullshit

it's poor people who don't pay taxes. Like skiierman

I guess I don't see how billionaires paying a lower percent in taxes than a single mom is socialist bullshit but whatever man.

From your article "Michael Bloomberg, who only had a 4.1% average effective tax rate from 2013 to 2018" ......"Jeff Bezos paid a 23.2% tax rate from 2013 to 2018, far below the top tax rate of 37% that applies to the ordinary income of high-earning Americans"

you seriously can't comprehend how that makes people mad? And it doesn't make a person socialist to want people to pay their fair share lmao but whatever you say man.

I know your thoughts on the matter and I don't really care...but whatever I guess
 
14607527:profa_212 said:
I guess I don't see how billionaires paying a lower percent in taxes than a single mom is socialist bullshit but whatever man.

From your article "Michael Bloomberg, who only had a 4.1% average effective tax rate from 2013 to 2018" ......"Jeff Bezos paid a 23.2% tax rate from 2013 to 2018, far below the top tax rate of 37% that applies to the ordinary income of high-earning Americans"

you seriously can't comprehend how that makes people mad? And it doesn't make a person socialist to want people to pay their fair share lmao but whatever you say man.

I know your thoughts on the matter and I don't really care...but whatever I guess

I guess the difference between owning your own company and employing thousands of people and stimulating the economy is just different than being a single mom who works 9-5 in an office.

It's funny how the article fails to mention that 30% of government revenue is through payroll tax, which is also paid the by the corporation. The government gives you a break if you're employing people and contributing to GDP, all while still actually paying millions in taxes.

You really think taxing the shit out of the rich will long term help stimulate business growth, and therefore American GDP?
 
14606690:GayWolf420 said:
I fucked up on my tax filings last year and the IRS absolutely tanked my tax return this year. Less than $300 :(

Don't feel bad. I somehow fucked my witholding a few years ago and ended up with a 10k tax bill. This years return should finally wipe that out. But I've been paying $250 a month on it that I would have liked to see go someplace else.
 
14607526:cool270out said:
Anyone find it funny that the 30+ lounge immediately turned into old men yelling about taxes?

lol you're right.

Hopefully whatever our disagreements may be, we can all agree that TAXATION IS THEFT
 
Yeah man. SMH lol

But usa tax law is bullshit. My wife had to pay a few hundred in tax last year for income she made in a foreign country before she was a USA resident. Uncle Sam has some grubby little greedy hands.

14607526:cool270out said:
Anyone find it funny that the 30+ lounge immediately turned into old men yelling about taxes?
 
14607675:BradFiAusNzCoCa said:
Yeah man. SMH lol

But usa tax law is bullshit. My wife had to pay a few hundred in tax last year for income she made in a foreign country before she was a USA resident. Uncle Sam has some grubby little greedy hands.

Tha'ts royally fucked
 
Back on topic..kinda

handed my notice in at my new job today. Only been there 10 weeks, but i had an offer out of the blue and I had already decided the current place is not for me. I don’t really like the work, most of the people or the old and dirty office blocks. Would’ve been the easiest decision ever, but my manager (who gave me the job) is a genuinely nice guy and we really got along, so I feel like I’m almost letting him down and kinda awful for putting him through the whole hiring process again so quickly.

My time in Canada has been a wild ride so far.

**This post was edited on May 7th 2024 at 9:49:10pm
 
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how it feels reading this thread as someone in their 20s
 
14611451:armchair_skier said:
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how it feels reading this thread as someone in their 20s

Just wait my guy. The elixer of youth only lasts so long. In the words of the great billy madison "cheerish it"
 
14611497:VTshredder69 said:
I have side gray hairs, had them since i hit 30. BUt they're multiplying

Grays started sprinkling in when I was 21. Thanks to genetics and stressful times at that time of my life.

My hair is probably 30- 40% grays now.
 
14611497:VTshredder69 said:
I have side gray hairs, had them since i hit 30. BUt they're multiplying

14611573:nmwninjart said:
Grays started sprinkling in when I was 21. Thanks to genetics and stressful times at that time of my life.

My hair is probably 30- 40% grays now.

I can relate. I have the salt n pepper going on. Im going to wake up one morning and be completely grey.
 
14611497:VTshredder69 said:
I have side gray hairs, had them since i hit 30. BUt they're multiplying

My side grey came in about 27ish. But I've got a properly good hairline, so I'll never complain.

I've got a couple of friends my age who look like mini-me and my nickname at work is Ace from Ace Ventura lmao.

So yeah, I'll take a few grey hairs.
 
32 and I noticed my first grey chin hair recently. No side grey but male pattern baldness. Can’t win ‘em all lol

14611656:JmckR said:
My side grey came in about 27ish. But I've got a properly good hairline, so I'll never complain.

I've got a couple of friends my age who look like mini-me and my nickname at work is Ace from Ace Ventura lmao.

So yeah, I'll take a few grey hairs.
 
14611745:BradFiAusNzCoCa said:
32 and I noticed my first grey chin hair recently. No side grey but male pattern baldness. Can’t win ‘em all lol

The only issue I find is that having grey hairs means you typically need to impose wisdom, I’m a fucking retard so the grey hairs don’t really suit me
 
Life is different, but good. Kids really change things. I never thought I'd be someone who had kids, never really had an interest and honestly it just seemed like a shitload of work without much payoff, at least not in the short term. So now I have two daughters, four and 11months, the first was a complete accident. I work full time, my wife is lucky enough to have a great part time faculty position at the local university (no more of that adjunct bullshit), but we don't have any family nearby which by default forces her into the primary parenting role. So she has to find time between naps and general baby stuff to get her work done, she's also in grad school. Heavy burnout, the new baby is way more intense than our first. We don't have much of a life right now. I get out on the mtb or road bike once a week, got out skiing 7-8 times last season (mostly night skiing).

When they say your whole life changes when you have kids, they mean it. The lack of family support is the hardest part. My parents decided they'd rather support their other grandkids because my brother and his wife agreed to baptize them, so my parents moved 2 minutes away from them. Every time we call we get to hear about how "we took the kids for the afternoon so they could get their garden planted" or whatever else, like great we literally had to hire some neighborhood kid for three hours just to put down some mulch and get our garden beds prepped, but yeah we totally love hearing about how they deserve to have some time without the kids, we're lucky if we get an hour a month away from both of ours.

Our kids are great, they LOVE each other and there are plenty of things that make it worth the effort. But holy shit, it's so much fucking effort. My wife got pregnant about a year after I got my first real career job, and she had just been hired by the university, so we never got to enjoy the financially-stable part of our lives together, we kinda immediately went from dirtbags without kids to decent income but all of it goes to the kids (big "fuck you" to the cost of daycare in America). Sometimes I wish we could just go back to the pre-kids life. It's really the one thing in life that you can't be like, oh I don't like that maybe I'll do something to change the course of my life. Nope, they're here forever. Which is great, but also not.

Thanks for being my therapist, NS
 
14613169:treebeard said:
Life is different, but good. Kids really change things. I never thought I'd be someone who had kids, never really had an interest and honestly it just seemed like a shitload of work without much payoff, at least not in the short term. So now I have two daughters, four and 11months, the first was a complete accident. I work full time, my wife is lucky enough to have a great part time faculty position at the local university (no more of that adjunct bullshit), but we don't have any family nearby which by default forces her into the primary parenting role. So she has to find time between naps and general baby stuff to get her work done, she's also in grad school. Heavy burnout, the new baby is way more intense than our first. We don't have much of a life right now. I get out on the mtb or road bike once a week, got out skiing 7-8 times last season (mostly night skiing).

When they say your whole life changes when you have kids, they mean it. The lack of family support is the hardest part. My parents decided they'd rather support their other grandkids because my brother and his wife agreed to baptize them, so my parents moved 2 minutes away from them. Every time we call we get to hear about how "we took the kids for the afternoon so they could get their garden planted" or whatever else, like great we literally had to hire some neighborhood kid for three hours just to put down some mulch and get our garden beds prepped, but yeah we totally love hearing about how they deserve to have some time without the kids, we're lucky if we get an hour a month away from both of ours.

Our kids are great, they LOVE each other and there are plenty of things that make it worth the effort. But holy shit, it's so much fucking effort. My wife got pregnant about a year after I got my first real career job, and she had just been hired by the university, so we never got to enjoy the financially-stable part of our lives together, we kinda immediately went from dirtbags without kids to decent income but all of it goes to the kids (big "fuck you" to the cost of daycare in America). Sometimes I wish we could just go back to the pre-kids life. It's really the one thing in life that you can't be like, oh I don't like that maybe I'll do something to change the course of my life. Nope, they're here forever. Which is great, but also not.

Thanks for being my therapist, NS

Hello treebeard, other side of the fence here. Dual income no kids mid 30's high caliber careers plenty of income to have fun. The career will just take any free time you have if you don't have kids. I wish the fiancé and I had started a few years ago. Feeling my age, all my direction in life comes from my work and school, I feel like my friends with kids are much happier.

That's tough about your parents not being there for you the same way they are for your brother's kids. You and your wife will be stronger for it, wiser. Keep your head in the game and your chin up, we're here for you.
 
14613196:C.R.E.A.M said:
I feel like my friends with kids are much happier.

Yeah man because parents will never lie about the horrors of raising kids just so they can sucker their friends into having them so they can hang out again doing kid-related things.

Go ahead, get a girl preggo and see how it turns out. LOL fucking idiot.
 
14613210:skierman said:
Yeah man because parents will never lie about the horrors of raising kids just so they can sucker their friends into having them so they can hang out again doing kid-related things.

Go ahead, get a girl preggo and see how it turns out. LOL fucking idiot.

Don't be mad that no girl wants to bang you, incel.
 
14613210:skierman said:
Yeah man because parents will never lie about the horrors of raising kids just so they can sucker their friends into having them so they can hang out again doing kid-related things.

Go ahead, get a girl preggo and see how it turns out. LOL fucking idiot.

Awww missing your parents little guy? Tell me you came from a broken home without telling me you came from a broken home.

I think its time for a break from the keyboard, consider going outside ok?
 
14613214:C.R.E.A.M said:
Awww missing your parents little guy? Tell me you came from a broken home without telling me you came from a broken home.

I think its time for a break from the keyboard, consider going outside ok?

Point proven. All the jackasses reacting poorly got a girl preggo, didn't have the balls to abort and now they lash out in anger.
 
14613169:treebeard said:
Life is different, but good. Kids really change things. I never thought I'd be someone who had kids, never really had an interest and honestly it just seemed like a shitload of work without much payoff, at least not in the short term. So now I have two daughters, four and 11months, the first was a complete accident. I work full time, my wife is lucky enough to have a great part time faculty position at the local university (no more of that adjunct bullshit), but we don't have any family nearby which by default forces her into the primary parenting role. So she has to find time between naps and general baby stuff to get her work done, she's also in grad school. Heavy burnout, the new baby is way more intense than our first. We don't have much of a life right now. I get out on the mtb or road bike once a week, got out skiing 7-8 times last season (mostly night skiing).

When they say your whole life changes when you have kids, they mean it. The lack of family support is the hardest part. My parents decided they'd rather support their other grandkids because my brother and his wife agreed to baptize them, so my parents moved 2 minutes away from them. Every time we call we get to hear about how "we took the kids for the afternoon so they could get their garden planted" or whatever else, like great we literally had to hire some neighborhood kid for three hours just to put down some mulch and get our garden beds prepped, but yeah we totally love hearing about how they deserve to have some time without the kids, we're lucky if we get an hour a month away from both of ours.

Our kids are great, they LOVE each other and there are plenty of things that make it worth the effort. But holy shit, it's so much fucking effort. My wife got pregnant about a year after I got my first real career job, and she had just been hired by the university, so we never got to enjoy the financially-stable part of our lives together, we kinda immediately went from dirtbags without kids to decent income but all of it goes to the kids (big "fuck you" to the cost of daycare in America). Sometimes I wish we could just go back to the pre-kids life. It's really the one thing in life that you can't be like, oh I don't like that maybe I'll do something to change the course of my life. Nope, they're here forever. Which is great, but also not.

Thanks for being my therapist, NS

Nice write up man. Shame your parents aren't around to help much, where are hers?

I have a few friends my age with young kids now and they're in a similar position as you, worn tf out, doesn't seem overly appealing to be honest! I guess it's just part of life though that most people have to go through.

On the other end of the spectrum. I have no kids, and I literally 5 minutes ago just received a text from a girl I was seeing that she's not interested anymore, so that was nice. So no kids in the near future either then lol.
 
A lot of people I know are having kids. I'm still not at that stage, my partner wants to travel etc. I don't know how people are able to afford kids and pets these days? How are you supposed to manage a good balance?
 
14613196:C.R.E.A.M said:
Hello treebeard, other side of the fence here. Dual income no kids mid 30's high caliber careers plenty of income to have fun. The career will just take any free time you have if you don't have kids. I wish the fiancé and I had started a few years ago. Feeling my age, all my direction in life comes from my work and school, I feel like my friends with kids are much happier.

That's tough about your parents not being there for you the same way they are for your brother's kids. You and your wife will be stronger for it, wiser. Keep your head in the game and your chin up, we're here for you.

14613222:JmckR said:
Nice write up man. Shame your parents aren't around to help much, where are hers?

I have a few friends my age with young kids now and they're in a similar position as you, worn tf out, doesn't seem overly appealing to be honest! I guess it's just part of life though that most people have to go through.

On the other end of the spectrum. I have no kids, and I literally 5 minutes ago just received a text from a girl I was seeing that she's not interested anymore, so that was nice. So no kids in the near future either then lol.

Thanks homies. It's definitely not all bad, the good parts are legit amazing and really difficult to adequately express. It's such a cliché, but you really do have to experience it to understand it. I also recognize that we're absolutely in the hardest/most restrictive part of parenthood with our kids being the ages they are. Our oldest is starting to get to an age where I know we're close to skiing and biking together. I've taken her out in the backcountry on my backpack since she was 2 and she LOVES the idea of skiing, we also have a Mac Ride and I've brought her up to Bogus for some bike park laps, so I know it's only a matter of time. She wants to go fast and get off the ground (I'm so proud lol), but her personality is definitely more like "I want to be along for the ride" rather than doing the work herself, so I'm really curious to see how it's gonna go when I put her on her own skis next year.

The little one is fucking wild, already about to walk, super physically motivated. I have a feeling she's gonna be my "get rad" buddy and I can't wait

14613310:skierman said:
You don't

This is the truest thing you have ever said.
 
14613222:JmckR said:
Nice write up man. Shame your parents aren't around to help much, where are hers?

Her parents live in the Bay, they come every few months and we make it out there once or twice a year. Both of them are still working, her dad tried to find a job here in Boise but couldn't make it happen so they're staying in CA for at least another few years.

My parents are retired. They also make it out here a few times a year, but they live in fucking nowhere middle of PA so it's quite a haul for us to get out there. It mostly hurts because they told us they were going to move to Boise when we first got pregnant, then changed their minds when my wife was 7 months along. It's been a series of broken promises since then. Also not great to watch your parents turn into "Bill Gates is controlling us with the vaccine" conspiracy theorists during covid...
 
Ahh so you were like "get the shots or you're not gonna see your grand kids!" and they were like "lol k"?
 
14613408:treebeard said:
The little one is fucking wild, already about to walk, super physically motivated. I have a feeling she's gonna be my "get rad" buddy and I can't wait

This is the truest thing you have ever said.

Treebeard's daughter taking XGames Big Air Gold in 2040, calling it here first.
 
Got in some good skiing this year, made a trip to Mt.Hood, weird how easy it was for me to get back into park and rails after not really hitting anything for a few years. I was pretty hyped on that.

Most of my issues are location based and stem from a lack of opportunities, I live in a cheap-ish area close to some really good skiing but job prospects are lacking and require being underpaid or having a long commute. There is a large wealth divide in the area meaning I have to deal with either hicks or snobs; neither of which I can make any sort of meaningful connection with. We are contemplating moving away if we have a child because of the lack of opportunities available and the poor quality of schooling in the area.

We don't have much in terms of savings but mental health is more important to us at this point.
 
14613169:treebeard said:
Life is different, but good. Kids really change things. I never thought I'd be someone who had kids, never really had an interest and honestly it just seemed like a shitload of work without much payoff, at least not in the short term. So now I have two daughters, four and 11months, the first was a complete accident. I work full time, my wife is lucky enough to have a great part time faculty position at the local university (no more of that adjunct bullshit), but we don't have any family nearby which by default forces her into the primary parenting role. So she has to find time between naps and general baby stuff to get her work done, she's also in grad school. Heavy burnout, the new baby is way more intense than our first. We don't have much of a life right now. I get out on the mtb or road bike once a week, got out skiing 7-8 times last season (mostly night skiing).

When they say your whole life changes when you have kids, they mean it. The lack of family support is the hardest part. My parents decided they'd rather support their other grandkids because my brother and his wife agreed to baptize them, so my parents moved 2 minutes away from them. Every time we call we get to hear about how "we took the kids for the afternoon so they could get their garden planted" or whatever else, like great we literally had to hire some neighborhood kid for three hours just to put down some mulch and get our garden beds prepped, but yeah we totally love hearing about how they deserve to have some time without the kids, we're lucky if we get an hour a month away from both of ours.

Our kids are great, they LOVE each other and there are plenty of things that make it worth the effort. But holy shit, it's so much fucking effort. My wife got pregnant about a year after I got my first real career job, and she had just been hired by the university, so we never got to enjoy the financially-stable part of our lives together, we kinda immediately went from dirtbags without kids to decent income but all of it goes to the kids (big "fuck you" to the cost of daycare in America). Sometimes I wish we could just go back to the pre-kids life. It's really the one thing in life that you can't be like, oh I don't like that maybe I'll do something to change the course of my life. Nope, they're here forever. Which is great, but also not.

Thanks for being my therapist, NS

Glad to see you're still doing things. I can't relate to having kids but being an uncle to 2 kids who love to be outside is everything to me. I can't wait to ski and ride bikes with my lil homies again one day.
 
I had to pay 6 dollars and taxes to the govt and I have Jury service in July. Hopefully I dont get selected so I can bum off to the slopes for a week,
 
14613411:treebeard said:
My parents are retired. They also make it out here a few times a year, but they live in fucking nowhere middle of PA so it's quite a haul for us to get out there.

Boise needs some direct flights to PA (or anywhere in the midatlantic) would be nice to visit my niece more often.
 
one kid is a joy, two is absolutely tough. I went through some tough mental times with 2 kids but once the youngest was 2-3 years old I was reminded of how fleeting the time is and started viewing time with them in a better light, hope goes that way for you too. Although kids are also part time in daycare so I get more of a mental break so that helps as well.

We don’t have family support here and struggle to get a decent baby sitter. My parents are great when they come out, they’ll watch kids so wife and I can get away. Her parents are far less helpful though, her dad has cancer so they’re always guilting us for not moving to Oregon so they can be around grandkids more even though it’s as if we’re signing them up to get their teeth pulled if we ask if they can watch the kids so we can go out and hang out…. Her parents are also extremely jealous so they always want to make sure we spend more time with them than my parents, they’re fun to drink tequila with and I like them but man it gets frustrating sometimes. Especially when they know damn well why we wouldn’t want to move to Portland

14613169:treebeard said:
Life is different, but good. Kids really change things. I never thought I'd be someone who had kids, never really had an interest and honestly it just seemed like a shitload of work without much payoff, at least not in the short term. So now I have two daughters, four and 11months, the first was a complete accident. I work full time, my wife is lucky enough to have a great part time faculty position at the local university (no more of that adjunct bullshit), but we don't have any family nearby which by default forces her into the primary parenting role. So she has to find time between naps and general baby stuff to get her work done, she's also in grad school. Heavy burnout, the new baby is way more intense than our first. We don't have much of a life right now. I get out on the mtb or road bike once a week, got out skiing 7-8 times last season (mostly night skiing).

When they say your whole life changes when you have kids, they mean it. The lack of family support is the hardest part. My parents decided they'd rather support their other grandkids because my brother and his wife agreed to baptize them, so my parents moved 2 minutes away from them. Every time we call we get to hear about how "we took the kids for the afternoon so they could get their garden planted" or whatever else, like great we literally had to hire some neighborhood kid for three hours just to put down some mulch and get our garden beds prepped, but yeah we totally love hearing about how they deserve to have some time without the kids, we're lucky if we get an hour a month away from both of ours.

Our kids are great, they LOVE each other and there are plenty of things that make it worth the effort. But holy shit, it's so much fucking effort. My wife got pregnant about a year after I got my first real career job, and she had just been hired by the university, so we never got to enjoy the financially-stable part of our lives together, we kinda immediately went from dirtbags without kids to decent income but all of it goes to the kids (big "fuck you" to the cost of daycare in America). Sometimes I wish we could just go back to the pre-kids life. It's really the one thing in life that you can't be like, oh I don't like that maybe I'll do something to change the course of my life. Nope, they're here forever. Which is great, but also not.

Thanks for being my therapist, NS
 
Are there any sayings or phrases that really annoy you at the moment? I like to make music and for some reason "beat making" just sounds so corny. Or in like chats where everyone is like "oh, thats a sick beat". I don't know why that irks me.
 
14614164:1spliff2guinnies said:
Are there any sayings or phrases that really annoy you at the moment? I like to make music and for some reason "beat making" just sounds so corny. Or in like chats where everyone is like "oh, thats a sick beat". I don't know why that irks me.

When you're over 30 pretty much every saying or phrase begins to annoy you lmao.

My pet peeve is LETS GOOOOO... yeah how about stfu

And also a very common one on NS, but I never hear in real life is "I fuck with" - as in "I fuck with skiing right now" like it's a good thing. Literally never heard that anywhere apart from on here.
 
14614164:1spliff2guinnies said:
Are there any sayings or phrases that really annoy you at the moment? I like to make music and for some reason "beat making" just sounds so corny. Or in like chats where everyone is like "oh, thats a sick beat". I don't know why that irks me.

"It is what it is" has been annoying to me lately. People at my work have been using it way too much. No, it is what it is because you allowed it to happen it that way.

Also, the term "old school". I have been around the biker scene for many years and this term gets thrown around a lot when in fact it has no relation to what you are saying.
 
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