24/25 Gear hype thread!

damn, who said they could have the thall colors. bases are cool but fuck those tips are gross.

**This post was edited on Dec 31st 2023 at 3:46:36pm
 
14576645:scratchskier321 said:
damn, who said they could have the thall colors. bases are cool but fuck those tips are gross.

**This post was edited on Dec 31st 2023 at 3:46:36pm

This is about to be another BBR moment…
 
You mean the BBR ver2.0 ?

Looks like it was already leaked in the time it took to register :(

14575797:kalle. said:
our salomon rep was also pretty stoked about future for salomon when he explained it. things sound pretty damn sick tbh

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looks like completely new plastic baseplate design on the pivot. looks like it raises the heel a little higher too??

**This post was edited on Jan 3rd 2024 at 7:27:32pm
 
Why do ski bindings all utilize Phillips head style screws still? They get stripped so easily and transfer torque poorly, at least ski boot manufacturers have figured out to use hexagonal screws. Bad engineering imo, who cares if Phillips heads are more common, give me something I can’t strip if I have to replace a brake.

Also Quan in cowboy boots is tuff
 
14577308:K-Dot. said:
Why do ski bindings all utilize Phillips head style screws still? They get stripped so easily and transfer torque poorly, at least ski boot manufacturers have figured out to use hexagonal screws. Bad engineering imo, who cares if Phillips heads are more common, give me something I can’t strip if I have to replace a brake.

Also Quan in cowboy boots is tuff

Well your first problem is they are all pozi drives not Phillips. It does make a massive difference. Pozi drives have a higher torque ability, but also have small cutouts on the inside "corners". So if you aren't using a pozi you are going to strip them.

Your second problem is that they are #3 pozi drives. Not the same size as a #2 Phillips. Which I would probably guess you're using. So you are basically doubling your chances to strip them.

So yeah you're gunna strip screws if you're using a #2 Phillips. They basically already come stripped if you're using a Phillips. I used to think the same thing till I figured it out.

As for why they don't use hex or star im going to guess it would rock the industry standard + hex or star are more expensive

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14577378:profa_212 said:
Well your first problem is they are all pozi drives not Phillips. It does make a massive difference. Pozi drives have a higher torque ability, but also have small cutouts on the inside "corners". So if you aren't using a pozi you are going to strip them.

Your second problem is that they are #3 pozi drives. Not the same size as a #2 Phillips. Which I would probably guess you're using. So you are basically doubling your chances to strip them.

So yeah you're gunna strip screws if you're using a #2 Phillips. They basically already come stripped if you're using a Phillips. I used to think the same thing till I figured it out.

As for why they don't use hex or star im going to guess it would rock the industry standard + hex or star are more expensive

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I use a pozidrive screw driver, I understand that there’s a difference. The nuance is secondary to the main point. It’s still a shit design.
 
14577211:Vish-shoe said:
14577308:K-Dot. said:
Why do ski bindings all utilize Phillips head style screws still? They get stripped so easily and transfer torque poorly, at least ski boot manufacturers have figured out to use hexagonal screws.

If I were tightening a screw to a specified torque value, I would agree with you that there are better choices (IMO everything for this purpose should be Torx). But with a binding release value screw, we're not tightening the screw to a specified torque value- we're simply spinning the screw. And for that purpose a #3Pozi driv works perfectly fine. Changing this screw to a Hex-8 or Torx-30 would piss off every ski tech in the entire world for no real benefit.

However, when you look at the above picture of the screw, it looks like a large Hex (8 or 10?) could also turn it...?
 
14577387:K-Dot. said:
I use a pozidrive screw driver, I understand that there’s a difference. The nuance is secondary to the main point. It’s still a shit design.

Hex fitting wouldn't work for most binding screws as most have a conical head and hex keys are square in shape from a side profile. You'd only be able to fit a 3mm or 4mm hex key into the head and that's even easier to strip after a lot of use than a pozi fitting. If it were big enough for a 6mm or so then sure, hex would be better but that's not the case. Sure Dynafit uses torx heads on their screws but it's only a T20 which is very small, so I wouldn't necessarily want to see that on all binding screws.

There's lots of techniques to help get a stripped screw head to budge, just have to have patience. In the last 12 years mounting thousands of skis it has only been an issue maybe 3 or 4 times for me, and then that's when you just have to be creative with a dremmel or something. Also getting new pozi's every now and then really helps, as you'd be surprised how often people strip screw heads because their pozi tip is worn out.

Side note, the new pivot 2.0 heel also adds more adjustment for boot soles, due to a new shape in the arms of the upper part of the heel piece. I've heard it can move more like 15mm now as opposed to 7-10mm like the old one.
 
14575779:jps2.0 said:
i have seen the 2024-45 rossi dynastar catalog and there is no new pivot next year

Does anyone know if the Dynastar M-Free, M-Cross, or Shadow have any updates???

M-Free has been the same for a couple seasons so I figure they would at least do a cosmetic update? Maybe design too?
 
Base of the Twall Pros, he posted a new video today could be better angles too. Also I have good Edollo photos as well. They on my PC I’ll upload here later!

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Biggest real-world change to the Pivot is being able to fit a different shell-size without having to re-drill.
 
14577560:ejj said:
Biggest real-world change to the Pivot is being able to fit a different shell-size without having to re-drill.

oh that’s such an amazing change. is it still the same drilling pattern ?
 
14577469:AttendAides said:
Does anyone know if the Dynastar M-Free, M-Cross, or Shadow have any updates???

M-Free has been the same for a couple seasons so I figure they would at least do a cosmetic update? Maybe design too?

according to info over on TGR:

M-Frees: new hybrid2 core for the 108 (but it does not seem to change other than that - same stated dimensions), the 118 will be replaced by a 112, the 99 stays the same, all get new graphics.

the M-Cross and (I am assuming Lange) Shadow boots were introduced this season and return unchanged for 24/25 as far as I know.
 
14577696:Vish-shoe said:
Supposedly K2 method is getting an update

They aren't, just a whole lot more BOA in other boots like BFC. New pro model coming in the revolver line though, as well as a pro model ski for the same individual. Totally revamped reckoner line and new park ski line as well.

Trade shows start next week so you're all about to see it soon.
 
14577745:.nasty said:
They aren't, just a whole lot more BOA in other boots like BFC. New pro model coming in the revolver line though, as well as a pro model ski for the same individual. Totally revamped reckoner line and new park ski line as well.

Trade shows start next week so you're all about to see it soon.

Ferdi pro model??
 
14577745:.nasty said:
They aren't, just a whole lot more BOA in other boots like BFC. New pro model coming in the revolver line though, as well as a pro model ski for the same individual. Totally revamped reckoner line and new park ski line as well.

Trade shows start next week so you're all about to see it soon.

Damn…

probably gonna get GTA 7 before an update to full tilts.
 
14577745:.nasty said:
They aren't, just a whole lot more BOA in other boots like BFC. New pro model coming in the revolver line though, as well as a pro model ski for the same individual. Totally revamped reckoner line and new park ski line as well.

Trade shows start next week so you're all about to see it soon.

It’s gonna be fucking karsteder
 
Just wanted to say thank you everyone! Like I’ve got to see so many new products because of you! Appreciate you all and your hard work!
 
14577726:kid-kapow said:
according to info over on TGR:

M-Frees: new hybrid2 core for the 108 (but it does not seem to change other than that - same stated dimensions), the 118 will be replaced by a 112, the 99 stays the same, all get new graphics.

the M-Cross and (I am assuming Lange) Shadow boots were introduced this season and return unchanged for 24/25 as far as I know.

Having a 108 and 112 in the same lineup seems so weird to me, honestly. Literally 4mm, they probably ski the same.
 
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Bought these today at my local shipment return overgoods store. Next years W QST 98 and Stance 96. I’ve got a few pairs of each.
 
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