2011 gear

I recently filmed Decker laying trenches on his new HellBents just for fun. I enjoy laying down big carves on those things so I respectfully disagree, though I do fine your analogy funny. For what they were designed to do, (pow, pow and more pow) I think they ski suprisingly well. Only when it is balls and chunks of frozen chunder on top of boiler plate do I wish I had other skis on.
 
i am 6'2" and 170, used to do a little racing in college but nothing serious. like to ski fast, never ski park, and dont really do a whole lot of butters/ dinkin around and love a ski that can carve. prefer stiffer skis

conditions they were skied in: no new snow for a few days, but a few stashes here and there. perfect groomers, no ice at all, off piste real soft semi chewed up moguls. real good almost spring type day.

The gotama was an absolute blast. honestly that is a ski you could probably ski every day. the volkl rocker skis very consistent everywhere and is real fun. it can carve pretty well since it has a decent sidecut and is stiff enough to rip crud.

super 7 was unbelievable. never felt chatter...... ever. it skied like an absolute tank everywhere and seemed like it would be a blast in deep and crudded out snow. skiing it on groomers it didn't even feel rockered it was so smooth and could carve really well. only downside to that it might not be as good as a wider ski in pow, but who knows i haven't skied it in pow. seems like a really good ski if you like to charge, do lines, and maybe even tour if you don't care about how heavy they are.

the chetler is exactly the same as last year. it was another real fun ski and seemed to work well everywhere. it could carve real well on groomed and stuff and seemed to be pretty good off piste as well. i liked the flex on it as well, seemed to be pretty playful, but could still charge.

hit me up with more questions, off to work, but will give some better reviews soon

 
^lol 15,000 post

I hit my mountains pro line(Largest jumps) on my 202 Lotus 138s with tip rocker that starts under the binding, and last year somebody hit it(it was similar but a bit smaller) on ARGs. Any ski is skiable on groomers and powder skis can be fun on groomers. Chopsticks low profile long rocker is in contact when it's on edge so it's still effective edge(I think I said that right). That being said Hellbents are way easier and way more fun on groomer than I though, better than Anthems and Invaders for sure!
 
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just a sneak peak. if you look above the orange piece you can see a skier rocking the jacket.
 
I had a pair of Made'Ns with that same rocker that I skied for two years. Awesome in pow, little bit different on hardpack. Then I got HellBents and was really stoked. I have skied the Chopsticks a few times as well and my opnion remains the same. I like other companies offerings that work on pow/groomers better than I did the Chopstick.
 
i doubt anybody cares but today at a ski shop they showed me the pictures of next years 3.zeros, top sheets were okay had like a lightning bolt on em, but there making 2, 3.zeros one thats rockered and one that has traditional camber
 
I demoed the rossi s4's and s7's yesterday.

The S4's were really really fun I thought. Way poppier and had way more life than my current invaders. They were super light and I really liked how the turning radius felt. For tricks I couldn't take them on rails, but I felt really really comfortable in the air and while landing. And the graphic is mad sick. So i'm really considering these now.

For the S7. I live in Ohio so not really any pow. But they buttered really nicely, and were also lighter than my invaders. But I can't really tell you much more.
 
I've been on the Elan Puzzles for a few weeks now and let me tell you all, Elan is stepping their game up. Completely new ski compared to last years. Wider all around. Softer edges that don't crack compared the edges in the past. Hybrid cap/sidewall construction that has yet to chip even a little. All in all it's a super responsive ski, really light, and probably the most fun pair of ski I've ever been on.
 
my friend got next years dynastars, ill tell him to post pics.
and i helped the local shop order next years capita and holden. so sick. ill try to get the catalogs to post pics.
 
Saw the new K2 Seths in person today for the first time.... The rocker on them is insane. Dude riding them said they are a hell of alot of fun.
 
i thought the same thing.but then i demoed them, and was just blown away. next years is much more stiff, and was able to rail hardpack on a spring morning after a melt cycle, so the snow was quite hard. this is by far the most versatile bent yet. as the day progressed it skied everything amazingly well, it just seemed to surf everything, it even nailed bumps like a much skinnier ski. also the additional stiffness will hopefully address the problem of bents losing there liveliness. also the ep pro's were absolutely the funnest ski i tried that day. they are so soft they are practically being asked to be taken into pow, but they also were amazing on ANYTHING ELSE. i skied them in spring conditions in and out of shade, they just played in the corn/slush, and when i came to a hard patch i was able to use the soft, but not to soft, tails to kind of smear the turn over the hard patch, was also able to do this with icy patches on groomers.the ep's are big, but im 5'9 150 and i had no problem with handling them. both skis would easily get a 10. also tried the bent chetlers, and was a bit disappointed, they weren't bad, just very mediocre compared with the ep's and bents.i also tried the obsethed and nordica zero's if any one wants the skinny on those.
 
i demoed the zeros last weekend of january and hated them, couldnt carve for shit, and just not fun skis IMO, what was your experience with them
 
Crystal Mountain had its demo day today, and so I went out and tried lots of skis. Previously I'd only been on 5 different skis my whole life, and none with rocker, so I came to try lots of different ski types, and to determine what is best for me as a daily driver.

Pictures of the skis and conditions are available with the reviews at
http://williamrichmondski.blogspot.com/

My Stats
5'9''
135lbs
I ski fast, aggressive, will be doing freeride competitions in the future, and stick to off-piste terrain.
I am currently on the 2008 168cm Volkl Gotama, which is far too short for me.

Conditions
4'' in the last 24
Between Sunny and Partially Cloudy all day, with Mostly Sunny being the majority of the day.

The Test
I got two runs per ski to determine if it could be a excellent daily driver so I did the following:

Came up REX, went skiers right dropping skiers left of Upper Ferks, then straightlining onto it. From there I skied fast and boosted all of the little rolls, unto dropping the 5 foot cornice onto Middle Ferks. From there it was just skiing fast, partially to the right, on back to Rex. There conditions here went from hard to soft to slushy.
For run number 2, I skied between Breakover and Memorial, which started off mostly untracked higher up, with crud lower down, which became the norm by the end of the day. Conditions ranged from sticky to nice powder to cut up to nice packed powder. In other words the perfect testing grounds.
From there I finished on Lower Ferk which had lots of little airs and an fun spine to play with. Conditions greatly improved, but the moguls grew, later in the day. The straightline out was the best.

The Skis (All 2011 models in order of testing)

Atomic Coax
183cm
Well today I started off with my least favorite ski. This was the only ski without rocker, it was 183cm, and the conditions weren't the best early in the morning, but I still didn't like the Coax. It was horrible at short turns if they were possible, not stable, very unforgiving and inspired a lack of confidence. I didn't want to push it on this ski. They did ok in larger turns. Also the ski doesn't float very well. For this ski, I skied my test runs in opposite order. Two thumbs down.

Atomic Bent Chetler
183cm
I understand now why this ski sold out in December: it's that good. This was the most playful ski, along with being the lightest. Coming from a 105mm ski, I was impressed on how it doesn't feel like a really fat ski on groomers. On my groomed run, it performed well, with some slight tip flap when I was going fast, but still felt stable. I was able to do any turn I wanted, its especially excellent in shorter turns. In the powder and crud the Bent Chetler held up extremely well, and was lots of fun to be on. High speed straighlines were the Bent Chetler's worst skiing, and it did ok. This ski is a playful skiers daily driver.

Line Prophet 115
186cm
I had never felt an ski HOLD onto the edge and stay there. That's what the Prophet 115 did, everywhere. That level of control was awesome. The minimal tip rocker in this ski allows any type of turn possible, at whatever speed. I was very impressed with this ski's stability in all conditions. Straightlining is redonkulusly easy. This is a heavy ski, but that went along with the stable feel. My only gripe is this ski drives so much that it's impossible to shut down in a hurry. The Prophet 115 just wants to keep going and going.

Dynastar Pro Rider 115
184cm
Don't buy this ski. I was very disappointed after my two runs. It's got very little sidecut, moderate flex, and a fair amount of rocker. This amounts to garbage. The flex isn't stiff enough for the rocker, and it doesn't have a stable feel off-piste. The rocker is excessive and simply flops around. My legs were very tired after skiing a little powder and lots of crud, because this ski is so ineffective. On the plus side you can make pretty much any type of turn at most speeds. unfortunately, thisski is only good in pure powder.

Blizzard The Answer
184cm
I have never skied so fast not noticing it. That's what The Answer does, in a stable way. I was able to make all turn shapes, even at speed. It's easy to scrub speed in a hurry. I found The Answer could slarve turns, but preferred normal arcs. This wasn't very forgiving, and definitely required a strong, forward stance, but was very fun. It's pretty much an excellent big mountain ski. One of my favorites of the test.

Atomic Blog
177cm
Yes this is the 2010 topsheet, but the ski remains unchanged next year. I felt the Blog did exactly what I wanted to, but the softer, more forgiving flex along with rocker did cause some instability. However, some of that was due to the length. I demoed it later in a 183 and liked it much more. This ski is ridiculously poppy, and skis like a more versatile Bent Chetler. Overall I was quite impressed.

Rossignol S7
188cm
After going to the Rossignol booth about five times to try to get this ski, I was disappointed with what I found. The S7 is the Indiana Jones 4 of skis: very overrated and disappointing. The rocker and soft flex create a very forgiving ski, but not much else. I didn't feel stable on this ski at all, and had a very hard time skiing anything not powder. The S7 is awful in crud, with lots and lots of tail flap. Also the rocker makes it extremely easy to become skiing in the backseat in if you're not careful, and I almost had the crash of my lifetime because of it. Maybe I should've tried the Super 7, but the 188 was one of the worst skis of the day.

K2 Obsethed
179cm
I came to the demo wanting to try a variety of skis, with differing rocker and flex patterns, so I came to the Obsethed for the super soft ski. Honestly going in I had low expectations, and was blown away. First of all this ski is scary soft, especially in the tip, and almost the entire ski is rockered. However, it's stable and fun. The rocker did chatter on groomers, but in off-piste snow it was pretty good, as long as I stayed out of the backseat. All turn types were possible, and the Obsethed was excellent in softer snow. This is too soft for a daily driver, but it was a good ski, including the graphics (sorry my picture is bad). I think this is what the S7 intended to be.

Volkl Katana
183cm
This monster is full rockered, and I gave it a whirl to try that type of ski. The Katana is incredible! I found it was very stable, did any type of turn I wanted, and was great in all terrain. Quite a fun ski. Also the Katana promotes slarving over carving. One of my favorite skis of the test.

Atomic Blog
183cm
The 183 is much better than the 177 Blog. I found the longer length had all of the pop of the shorter ski (a ton), but felt much more stable. This is much more versatile, and fun. It's not really a big mountain ski, but a strong contender for my favorite ski of the test.

Atomic Atlas
182cm
I was able to get one long run on these at the end of the day, and they were ok. The Atlas has a moderate flex with some tip rocker. I felt these ended up skiing like a much improved Dynastar 115, but they were still had somewhat floppy tips. However they were pretty stable, and lots of fun in long turns.
 
^very good review, thanks a lot. which one was your favorite? do you have any idea which one you may get? im liking the idea of a more versatile bentchetler being the blog, is the flex about the same? also do you know if there is tail rocker in the blogs? sorry for all the questions haha.
 
Anyone have any additional info on the k2 domains? (lovin the VIBRANT ass orange base shown in vid https://newschoolers.com/web/content/viewvideo/id/321314/cat/latest/ xD)

They lookin like they're gonna be a replacement/revamped Extreme which I demoed this year and enjoyed, lookin to get some for next year but those domains might just win me over....

poppy? stiff? I heard it has the early tip/tail rise with standard camber underfoot kinda like the Libtech NAS? Rode those too and didn't feel a lot from it but also wasn't in the park all to heavily since they were kinda my bosses lol.

Any info greatly appreciated!!!!!!!
 
DOH! My bad, was thinking of domains as 2011 Extremes, REVIVALS are replacing Extremes right?

K, got that out but still wondering what's the difference between Extremes vs Revivals vs Domains? Haven't gotten much info but from what I've read they're similar in that they're both slightly rockered, Domain has symmetrical dimensions but other than that I don't really know much about them.

Thanks again!
 
Hmm... alright well I at least can see the comparison difference now haha.

I'm not gonna lie though, I'm still a bit sketchy on this idea of rocker anyway, and this new "jib-rocker" isn't helping my grasping the concept lol.

I've rode my wee little Rossi Axiums for 2.5 years and they're a pretty beginner ski and not unique really heh.

My impression of rocker on a ski: it reduces the amount of edge present on the snow marginally when landing to lessen chance of catching, right? Same concept in buttering?

I'm not sure about the jib-rocker though because I'd always thought of camber as a nice thing in the park for the additional pop and for locking onto rails? Why remove it exactly?

Also, i guess i need to step back if I'm gonna take it this direction of asking which would suit me better, I"m pretty newbie to the park and am working on getting a 360 down perfect and working on the rails and boxes. SO my point is I'm not looking for something the pros would be on if I don't need it haha. I'm gonna be using this as a 1-ski-quiver type of thing. Would I be better off staying with something a little more traditional like the Extreme so I can still get my 60mph runs and everything else on the mt? Or is the loss of camber not a big deal for all mountain?

(Sorry, I'm really good at rambling on crap like that ehheh ^^'...)

Thanks though for your help! That vid was pretty funny AND informative. Especially the part where he goes all reminiscent from his horrible childhood memories lol XP
 
I've been keeping an eye out because I want to see what they've done with the graphic I won the TJ competition with, and all I've found so far have been a few shots in the middle of this video with various 10/11 CoreUPT skis in the background:http://www.zapiks.fr/europe-x-games-tignes-by-cor-1.html It's in the section where they're filming inside the CoreUPT shipping container setup. I'm surprised we haven't seen decent pictures by now, it's not like they're hiding the skis in a closet.
 
Just got a chance to take out the 2011 Sir Francis Bacon all day yesterday, here is my review.

About me: I am 6'2" and 170 and like to ski pretty hard, but not really into doing tricks and park stuff.

Conditions: Stevens Pass, WA. Sunny, but fairly cold, so softer snow conditions throughout the day. Got about 14 or so inches the previous two days so there were areas of untracked still, but mainly skied out somewhat cruddy conditions with perfect groomers all day until they got a bit chewed up and moguly later in the day.

Overall, I think this is the most fun set of skis I have been on all year. I demoed 10 skis for next year and have been on EP pros, Prophet 130's, Chopsticks, Live Lifes, and Karmas all year for the most part and this was the most fun and versatile. This ski is unlike anything else I have ever been on. It was the first ski that I have been on that didn't really dictate where you had to ski it to have fun. And by that I mean that most skis have some type of condition that they just don't excel at and are not very fun. EP's are great for fresh, but suck in crud, Chopsticks are great for fresh and crud, but boring on groomers due to the long turn radius.... you get the idea. This ski felt like a dream everywhere. Skiing a few untracked lines they had good float and the medium flex allowed them to flex out and bust through crud and stay on top of the snow. In my opinion this ski has the perfect flex. It is stiff enough to haul ass through crud and chop, but soft enough to be fun to dink around on a bit. Skiing through crud it would just float and effortlessly bust through anything in your way. I had a ton of fun straightlining small mogul fields and ollie-ing over gaps and never felt like I was going to go over the bars or like the ski was going to dive and hook a tip or anything. When you get the ski on groomers it can absolutely rail turns. It carves like a gs ski and you don't really even notice the width since it feels pretty quick edge to edge as well.... that could just be because I am used to skiing fatties now though. Also, with the new thin tip definitely lowers the swing weight so it felt really easy to throw around. I could see this being an epic touring ski because of the waist width and its lightness.

Bottom line is that this ski is an absolute blast in any condition you will get it into. It floats like a pow ski, crushes crud, and turns like a gs ski and never feels hooky or chattery. I will definitely be picking up a pair next year.
 
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